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TXG did a video on FW vs. Hybrid vs. Long iron. It's worth a watch in this conversation.

I play the mizuno CLK. Incredible options with the shafts , adjustable and things go like an arrow. Chuck them on your to try list! Wont regret it

Here is the summary of this distances. ALOT MORE TO CONSIDER then length. Eg - spin, peak height, stopping etc   Im after a safer straighter option. Not longer myself.

I rely a lot on my 4W and 7W, but I have seen players who ride the hybrids.

One was a young assistant pro I got paired with who was preparing for the upcoming PGA Player Ability Test at our course. He played Driver, 2H and 4H as his long clubs. He had the range with his hybrids to get home in two in two of the Par 5 holes. He said he didn't lost much distance with just hybrids, and the 2H was pretty much his "go to" club for several uses.

A second person still had a 3W in the bag, but said he seldom used it. He was a college golfer at a benefit golf tournament. His tournament "job" was to hit a tee shot for your group on a short Par 4 for $5. The hole played 278 yards, and he was hitting a 2H because his 3W was "flying the green." This guy was about 5-foot-8 and maybe 150 pounds, but he could really blast the ball.

If you've got the distance and the 2H bumps the FWs - or FWs are a control nightmare - go with all hybrids!

 

 

What's In The Bag (Summary as of October 2020)

 

Driver:  Tour Edge EXS 10.5°, weights neutral   ||  FWs:  Calla Rogue 4W + 7W

Hybrid:  Calla Big Bertha OS 4H at 22°  ||  Irons:  Tour Edge CB Pro Tungsten 4i-9i

Wedges:  Calla MD3: 48°, 54°... MD4: 58° ||  Putter: Ping Sigma G Tyne (face-balanced)

Ball: Calla SuperHot (Orange preferred)  ||  Bag: Sun Mountain Three 5 stand bag

For details see:  Pending (need protocol to embed file list).

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I don't know that these would necessarily compete for the same exact distance so I think it's more about what you need. The hybrid would most definitely have a shorter shaft and probably a degree (or two) more loft. That'll equate to at least 10 or 15 yards difference. I think the 4w optimizes power and range in this scenario while the strong hybrid might appeal more to the player looking for a more forgiving iron.

 

These days I'm rocking a 15-deg 3w and a 19-deg hybrid. That seems to be a good combo. That said, a lot depends on how well the hybrid suits you. You have to find the right (head) shape and the right shaft so you actually feel confident you can control the hybrid as well as you might an iron. .

SIM (10.5o) (Tensei Pro Org.)
TS2 4w (17o)

M6 7w (21o)

z785 (4-Pw)
SM8 52-F / 56-F / 60-S
Newport 2 Select

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Currently playing a 4 wood (17) and 3 hybrid (20). Thinking about replacing the 4 wood with the 17 degree super callaway hybrid. I rarely hit the 4W off the tee. And only from the deck if I have a shot at the green. Otherwise use 3 hybrid to advance the ball. A lower lofted hybrid might be safer to hit from the deck, especially if i am not sacrificing a ton of distance.

PING G410+ 9* TPO 60S

Adams XTD 17* Fubuki 

Callaway Apex 20* AD DI 85s

Callaway Apex 23* OBAN Kiyoshi Purple

5-6 Srixon Z585 Modus 120S

7-PW Srixon Z785 Modus 120S

50 Cleveland RTX 4

56 and 60, TM Hi Toe

EVNROLL ER3

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I cannot stop the ball on the green with 17 hybrid.

So, went to 16.5 wood and it is much better for me(less chance of hooking is bonus)

Cobra                      F9 Driver w/HZRDUS Smoke 60 6.5
Titleist                     TS2 16.5 Wood w/HZRDUS Smoke 70 6.5
Ping                         G410 19 Hybrid w/KBS Proto 95 X
Titleist                     818 H2 23 Hybrid w/Accra M5 95 X

Honma                     TW-U 4 Iron w/Steelfiber i110cw X
Honma                     Rose Proto TW MB Iron set 4-10 w/Modus3 120X
Honma                     TW W4 Wedge 52/58 w/Modus 125
SIK                     Pro|C-Series|Armlock Putter

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I used to love my 4 wood, but having major issues with my fairway woods. I find hybrids are much easier and safer to hit off the deck and tee with some sacrifice in distance. I am currently in the market for a 2 hybrid. My current distance with M6 4H is 200 - 210ish. Wish Taylormade made M6 in 2H.

Few I want to try:

Callaway Super hybrid

Tour Edge EXE 220

Cobra F9 (I never got along with Cobra, but doesn't hurt to try.)

My list seems to grow by the day.

Driver: Ping G400 Max 10.5 Stock Alta (need shaft fitting)
Fairway Wood: Ryoma F5
Hybrid: TaylorMade M6 4H & 6H
Irons: OnOff Kuro 2015 6 - PW
Wedge: Cleveland RTX4 50, 54 and 58
Putter: S.C. GoLo 3
Ball: TaylorMade TP5X
Club hoe, builder, fitter and tester as hobbyist since 1993

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Unless you're pretty shallow and you have high speed, I wouldn't game a 17* hybrid. If the reason you're looking into one is you find fairways to be big looking... Something like an m1 or any "tour" model head is going to be pretty compact.

Taylormade SIM Max 9* - Ventus Black 6x

Cobra Speedzone Big 3 Tour - Accra FX 2.0 370 M5

Cobra Speedzone - Accra FX 2.0 380 M5 (Testing SIM Max 19* - HZRDUS SMOKE BLACK 95 6.5)

Titleist 818H1 - Ventus Blue 10x

Cobra Forged Tec Black 6i, Forged CB 6-GW - AMT X100 Onyx

Titleist SM8 54.12D, 58.8M - S400 Tour Issue Onyx

Custom Atwood

TP5 (testing Vice Pro)

 

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Yes, I agree, it's a great video. Here is the link:

Driver: Ping G400 Max 10.5 Stock Alta (need shaft fitting)
Fairway Wood: Ryoma F5
Hybrid: TaylorMade M6 4H & 6H
Irons: OnOff Kuro 2015 6 - PW
Wedge: Cleveland RTX4 50, 54 and 58
Putter: S.C. GoLo 3
Ball: TaylorMade TP5X
Club hoe, builder, fitter and tester as hobbyist since 1993

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I used to use TM TP 14* and 19* instead of FWs on short courses. Worked out ok, but I really prefer fairway woods now by far.

Mavrik SZ 10.5*, Tensei CK Pro Orange

Mavrik SZ 4 wood, Aldila Rogue White 130MSI 80

Super Hybrid 20*, Tensei CK Pro Orange

Epic Forged 5-PW, Steelfiber

Wilson Staff 50, 56, 60, KBS C-Taper 130 Black

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