Any faster guys here with 4h in the bag?

[Z1ggy16]

Unless you're Lexi and you play a 3i :D :D

but yes I've been to them... some even go up to 5 or 6h, or Wie who uses what... like an 11W sometimes? Although she's done golfing it seems.

[juggernaut0629]

I am the slightly faster than OP & carry a callaway xhot 4h with matrix white tie altus shaft in bag. Perfect club for , love it.

[Thats two thus far Shooter]

Its a 22* Loft, which is the loft of a 3 iron, throw into that the longer hybrid shaft, that thing is going to fly like a 3 iron with more height. If you want a 4 iron replacement, i would get 5 hybrids from most manufacturers.

[Multipass613]

110 mph ss here as well. I use 3W 2H 4H.

4H is a 23 degree Adams Pro hybrid with the stock Aldila Tour Red shaft. Oldest club in my bag, I've put it up against all the new driving irons on simulators and nothing can beat it. It doesn't balloon in the wind, easy to hit stringers with and can shape it whatever direction you want. If you can find one in decent condition you're getting insane value, this was one of the last hybrids Adams ever made.

[swizbeatz]

I’m 105-110 swing speed and carry 3/4/5 hybrids.

[CRB357]

I’m actually going to hit a Ping G400 4 hybrid that I recently picked up this morning. I put my preferred Diamana D+ 82 X flex in it. I’m like a previous poster, for some reason the transition from 2/3 hybrid to seeing all that loft on the 4hy isn’t giving me good feelings. Looks strange. I’m a high speed guy who still hits a blade 4 iron fine. I’ve just had a lot of success recently with the 2/3 G400 hybrid that I thought I would try a 4hy and see if it works. The G400 has a good mid trajectory for me compared to most hybrids that I hit super high. It’s windy where I play so I'm hoping the 4hy can stay low enough to be playable.

My Jr boy is already ripping me for trying a 4 hybrid!!! He says, “too many head covers for a bag full of Mizuno blades”. LOL If it works, I don’t care.

 

[J_Tizzle]

I will save you all the trouble. Go to eBay and buy an Adams 9031 23* and then go buy an Aldila NV 105. You can get this entire set up for less than probably $75 shipped to your door.

This is one club that I have that I have hit more career shots with than anything else in my bag. Of course right now I'm using a 410 Crossover, but thats only really due to the course I'm playing the most right now I need it for a few tee shots, but I'll never sell it and its always just a few bad swings from being put back in the bag.

Edit: I just went and put it back in my bag because...

[Bubs23]

About 115 with the driver, and I carry a 4wood and 3h, both Callaway.

The 4 wood can roll out to 275 in the right conditions, so gapping is a problem. The 3h is good for about 245

Which left a lot of yardage between the 3h and the next club in my bag. The "solution" was to get a 4 iron and loft it down to almost a 3. It's better, but I'm looking at 230 on that and about 215 from the 5 iron.

This season I'd like to set the 4wood back to a 5, get a 4h, and switch out my 4&5 irons (JPX919 pro) to the hot metal or whatever is a little more forgiving. Close the gaps and make everything after 6 iron easier to hit in general.

[ccorrada]

I've been in this no man's land for about 3 years now. The 4 iron slot is a revolving door of 4 iron/hybrid/DI and I still haven't settled on anything. The closest I've come to a 4 hybrid winner is the original Cally Apex with a Diamana D+ 100g X-stiff. The only problem was the shaft was so stiff for me I can't smooth it which is what I want to do with a long club. My Driver SS is 106-110 depending on the day and the weather.

Someone earlier mentioned the NV 105 which I had years ago in my Hogan hybrids. I loved that setup so just picked up two shafts on ebay for $50. I got stiff flex because that is a stout shaft and you can tip it. Going to try them in the Apex.

[CRB357]

I’ll second the Super Proto 9031. Very nice behind ball and nice mid trajectory. Good feel too. Only issue is they are kind of flat for lie angle and can’t be bent bc of where welds are located on hosel. I just went through all that and have the 18 and 20 heads in a box.

The Aldila RIP 105 is very stout as well. Stiffest X flex I’ve ever tried. I hurt my back after about 30 balls on range. Ha.

[gomuskies09]

Have tried this experiment in the past without much success but am giving it another go this year. Around 110 with the driver. Had a SLDR 4h TP with (I think) a Matrix X shaft of some sort (whatever the TP standard shaft was) and hit it too far so it left a gap. Plus it always looked weird to me - almost like it had onset and the face was sticking way out in front. Then bought an Adams DHY 4 off ebay with a Steelfiber and also hit that too far so the gap between it and my 5 iron was too large. Finally gave up and went back to the 4 iron. Bored in the winter and bought a 24* Titleist 915h on ebay with a steel KBS hybrid shaft. Got the idea after looking at Webb's WITB. I love my 915h 2 hybrid so i figured why not give it a shot. Thinking about putting a DG105 X100 in it as the KBS seems a little whippy. Have only hit it a couple of times at the range but I think I am on to something here. Didnt go much further than my 4iron but more testing to be done.

[bladehunter]

I play a g410 4 hybrid as a 5 wood. It fits the distance gap perfectly and I can hit it really low if I want with a hard flat fade. Or hit it high to land soft. Today’s hybrids are a lot less hybrid and a lot more woods of 20 years ago. My opinion. I love mine. Addi 105x will handle anything I have to throw at it.

[tgoodspe1991]

Let's not forget that Lee Trevino, while not necessarily a "faster" swing speed player, was absolutely deadly with his 6-wood; which is the equivalent of a 25-26* hybrid of today.

[geochitown]

I like the NV105 shaft (put it in a 913h 24* hybrid).

In my other hybrids, I've used the thump hybrid shaft (low 90's), mainly for 22 and 25* lofts.

[jecarnl]

My driver swing speed is 112-113 and I've carrying a Taylor Made SLDR TP 4H for about 8 years. Its finally time to upgrade it.

[azgreg]

Nickent 3DX 23° hybrid here. Built the same way as the iron it replaces. Loft, lie, length, shaft. Money.

[WooPig]

I have 2 818 H2s with Atmos Blue TS85 shafts. They are 17* and 21*, and both are cranked up 2*. They carry 215 and 205 respectively.

[jungwjd7]

 

DJ is playing 4H sim max!

[hagimihale]

I think you are on the right path with your thought process; you'll get more use out of the hybrid than the 4i.

I have a pair of 818 H2s with Tensei Pro White shafts. Love them. I use my 19* (set to 18*) off the tee more often than any other club in my bag. The 21* (set to 22*) is used all over the place: short par 4s, as an escape club and even around the greens on occasion. However it is about 20 yards longer than my 4i, so I'm considering swapping it out for a 25* 818 H1, which will likely go about the same distance but fly higher and land softer, plus will be more effective than either the 4i or the H2 out of deep rough.

I concur with what others have posted. Try some out, and make sure you get fitted for the right shaft. Good luck!

[NRJyzr]

 

Bit of a random thought, have you thought about using a Modus 120 in the hybrid? It's very much an iron replacement in this case, and solves the weight issue.

The 120 is sold in .370 at GolfWorks, so it's available. Same dedicated lengths as the tapered 120.

Might be hard to find for demo purposes, though.

[Z1ggy16]

I've 100% thought about it. At actual 4h length it could be too heavy but we'll see how things go with tensei pro white for now. My back up after the pro white is going to probably be fuji pro or an accra tour Z hybrid.

[NRJyzr]

 

Does your hybrid of choice need to be a newer product? Wonder about the possibility of buying something used?

Again, demo can be a problem there.

My two hybrids have come from 2nd Swing. The first was bought on a lark, was intending to try Stage2 Tour 3/5 fairways, but they didn't have the 5w. Bought the Stage2 Tour 3h, 18.5*, and was surprised how well it worked for me; the first hybrid that was worth the effort.

Caveat: I am cheap, I admit it, LOL. Hence, the 2nd Swing thing (or Global Golf, eBay, so on).

[Z1ggy16]

I bought the 818 off a guy on Facebook for $80. Came with the stock 70g tensei that I swapped for the pro white.

[Stetson]

I’m thinking a 4h Ping G410, turned down to 20.5*. Going Driver, 5w, 4h, 4-P as my setup. Faces are getting so hot on fairways and hybrids that you almost have to go down a club to gap well

[Z1ggy16]

I'm not sure they've gotten that much hotter over the past 4-5 yeas... they've just gotten more optimized and maybe a little more forgiving. I could get 1.49 smash on my old m1 hybrid when I centered it... but it was very harsh anywhere but dead nuts middle.

[2th Dr]

I'm a 105-108 mph driver swing speed. Game Gen 1 PXG 4-PW. Realized I never hit my 4i unless off the tee. I could never get the thing in the air but it would roll out to 210 yards. I game 3H Cobra F8 and love it so found a deal on a 4H Cobra F9. Wow, what a game changer. I'm able to put a normal swing on it w/no fear and it flies high and lands on the green like I"m swinging a 7i.

If you're not hitting your 4i anyways...might as well try out a 4H imo

[Stetson]

If we are talking about 2019 clubs you are correct. If we are talking about 2015 clubs than I believe my statement is correct.

 

Since 2015 the distance gains of FW and HY have greatly exceeded the distance gains for the driver. This gap between Dr and 3w is narrower now than in 2015. The gap between the longest iron in your set and the hybrids released now is growing. So getting a 22* 4hybrid as the next club after a 24* 4iron makes more sense than the 19* 3H being sold today

[Z1ggy16]

Well based on what I'm seeing I could go right from my 3w to the SIM 4h, and probably still play 4-pw because the thing is so hot.

I do remember owning a sldr fw that was pretty beast though. Maybe that was just a unicorn series because all those clubs were very low spin.

[Stetson]

 

Glad we are on the same page. A 4i at the top of a persons set very well could mean they should put a 4H into their bag as well. The 4H could/should be 15 yards longer than the iron without any exaggeration .

 

I was on a Golfzon sim this weekend and was hitting 3H 245 yards but I hit 4i 205. Makes the move to a 4H much easier to justify. (3 was 260 btw, terrible gapping)

[Z1ggy16]

Yeah I could probably get away with popping a p790 4i in and skip the 5w completely. We'll see... My swing has changed a bunch since a few years ago so distances and the way I use each club has changed a bunch. Gotta wait to actually get out on the course and see what actual distances are.

I'm also going back to see my guys at TXG on June 6, so... I'll get a really good sense of my bag once I get fit again. I'll have about 3 months worth of data from shot scope and my own personal anecdote on how things have felt.