Notah Begay Junior Invitational

[leezer99]

I think they were trying to find as many qualifiers located on tribal land that they could.

[heavy_hitter]

How many Native American Juniors play golf? If you want it to be successful they needed to appeal to the masses. I hear what you are saying, but it still doesn't make sense.

[heavy_hitter]

Went back and looked and I don't see that being the case. I know Florida, Atlanta, North Carolina, South Carolina, Canada, Carribean, DC, Dallas, Atlantic City, Cleveland, and Chicago are not on Reservations.

[heavy_hitter]

This thing keeps getting better and better.

A partnership with Hurricane Tour will end up being the kiss of death. I like the Hurricane Tour and the people that run it. They do a good job. Hurricane is just too expensive. A partnership makes sense, just not the Hurricane.

[wildcatden]

 

Is it only a partnership this year for the JGNC?

[heavy_hitter]

Good Question. Honestly, I don't know.

Without Covid-19 I think it would have been successful and a really fun event. It has thrown a huge wrench into every thing they have done. I would have delayed it a year because I know they have had a tough go at it.

[Noles]

I just signed my son up for a Hurricane event for the first time. Can't believe how expensive it is. The only reason I did it was because so many event he was going to play in have been cancelled. He hasn't played in one tournament this year and its a good idea to get one in before JGS starts back up again. Is IJGT operating anymore?

[heavy_hitter]

Yep. They take you for 3 bills for the tournament? Then a several hour drive and hotel.? Hurricane really does run a good tournament, just not sure it is worth that much.

I thought about it and just opted for US Kids stuff for the hold over.

I think IJGT is operating, they have just suspended all events.

[Noles]

Membership for the year was $299 and the tournament was $229 but I had a code for half off the tourney so it was $418. I'm sure we will do a few more to make the membership fee worth it.

[TripleBogeysrbetter]

HJGT at 300 for a non ranked event is crazy. Their events cost to much IMHO

[heavy_hitter]

I would play for $229.... I think.

[Noles]

I agree it is expensive but I don't see how whether it is ranked or not has any bearing on value. Regardless, the fact that it isn't ranked is a plus for me on this. Had it not been for Covid, we would never play in this event or probably any Hurricane event.

[TripleBogeysrbetter]

I totally get it. Our kids might be in different boats or timeline. I only have so much money to spend for two kids and he really only has this year left. He is playing in a tournament that is GJGR this weekend.

[tiger1873]

This is a strange year for things. I could see why something does this and who knows it might be fun. It's not really something I am interested in.

As for HJGT you have to sign up for it at the end the year when they have membership discounts. I think it was around $200 but I can't remember the exact cost. Once your a member you save a ton of money if you book during the early bird window.

If you do those things the tournaments are a lot better when you compare them to other tours especially is there played at the better courses. If you just found out about HJGT it's a tough call unless you plan doing 4 or 5 tournaments I would wait until the end of the year to sign up. You can also call them I heard sometimes they give discounts on memberships and to some people if you ask for them. Not sure if it works but worth a shot.

 

[CollegeGolfer21]

I was looking into this event as well for my nephew. The costs seem too high and not sure it is legit. Do they offer AJGA PBE points and is the event ranked on Junior Golf Scoreboard? I think it is important for AJGA to give the event it's blessing for it to be legit.

[heavy_hitter]

It is JGS ranked. Legit event for sure. I want it to be successful, but Covid is making things tough.

[Golfingdawg19]

I’m looking at doing one Hurricane event near me at Sea Island. Problem is right now there is only one girl signed up in the 13U age group. Hurricane struggles to get girls in that age group outside of Orlando. Orlando has all the academies so they tend to do better there. The people at Hurricane told me that themselves. I like their 13U distances because they are manageable for my daughter. Once you get past 12, they lump the girls from 13-18 together. That means the yardages are longer and favor the older girls. Just wish Hurricane wasn’t so expensive.

[Tannerbug33]

Hurricane is hit are miss in the under 13 age devision. We are going to play one later this year if our schedule allows.

We are doing the Notah Begay because it's close and convenient. Should be a fun tournament

[Noles]

The Hurricane event ended up being a really well run event. I was impressed. Of course my son did really well so now I wish that it had been a ranked event but isn't that how life always goes? lol

[heavy_hitter]

Nice Win.

[heavy_hitter]

#seeyouincoushatta

[jigsaw1011]

This tournament has become a scam.  Why are kids in the field that never qualified?  Why are 14 soon to be 15 year olds playing the 13 and under division? Anyone who is playing in the field, did you have to submit a birth certificate? 

Edited November 8, 2021 by jigsaw1011

[mrshinsa]

1 minute ago, jigsaw1011 said:

This tournament has become a scam.  Why are kids in the field that never qualified?  Why are 14 soon to be 15 year olds playing the 13 and under division? Anyone who is playing in the field, did you have to submit a birth certificate? 

This is the only tournament where the age cutoff precedes the championship date by several months.  

 

Also in our area, the regional was $300 to play a $5 muni course...  On a Tuesday and Wednesday.

The winner walked away with a hat.  

[jigsaw1011]

I was aware of the age cutoff preceding the championship but I would love to know if they are checking birth certificates.  One player in the field  my son played at USKIDS worlds as a 12 year old in August of 2019.  My son recently turned 15.  The boy is playing in the 13 and under.  The math doesn't add up.

[tiger1873]

6 minutes ago, jigsaw1011 said:

I was aware of the age cutoff preceding the championship but I would love to know if they are checking birth certificates.  One player in the field  my son played at USKIDS worlds as a 12 year old in August of 2019.  My son recently turned 15.  The boy is playing in the 13 and under.  The math doesn't add up.

 

Not sure why golf tournaments that play divisions by age do not ask for Birth Certificates?  Not sure what the situation is in this case but  I'd say the majority of golf tournaments don't ask for age.

 

I wish more did you really have no chance if a kid is 15 and says he is 13.

 

I am not sure if I would call it a scam though. I haven't seen anything that says it is.  

Edited November 8, 2021 by tiger1873

[jigsaw1011]

It starts to feel "scammy" when you have players in the field that have not played any qualifying events and all of a sudden turn up in the national field.  Meanwhile others have paid to play a local as well as regional qualifier and shot scores to justify being in a national level field.

Edited November 8, 2021 by jigsaw1011

[tiger1873]

9 minutes ago, jigsaw1011 said:

It starts to feel "scammy" when you have players in the field that have not played any qualifying events and all of a sudden turn up in the national field.  Meanwhile others have paid to play a local as well as regional qualifier and shot scores to justify being in a national level field.

 

Was there any exemptions into the field????? They should have announced that prior to qualifying .   If you suddenly have players showing up because they didn't qualify I would tend to agree that isn't well run at all.

[heavy_hitter]

14 minutes ago, jigsaw1011 said:

It starts to feel "scammy" when you have players in the field that have not played any qualifying events and all of a sudden turn up in the national field.  Meanwhile others have paid to play a local as well as regional qualifier and shot scores to justify being in a national level field.

There are Sponsor Exemptions into the field just like AJGA will do.  When Wilson is the corporate Sponsor, they want some kids playing their stuff.

Edited November 8, 2021 by heavy_hitter

[mrshinsa]

Just now, tiger1873 said:

 

Was there any exemptions into the field????? They should have announced that prior to qualifying .   If you suddenly have players showing up because they didn't qualify I would tend to agree that isn't well run at all.

 

I don't know about the national event, but at least for the Regional, kids could by-pass the local qualifier if they signed up for the Regional way in advance.  

 

 

[heavy_hitter]

1 minute ago, mrshinsa said:

 

I don't know about the national event, but at least for the Regional, kids could by-pass the local qualifier if they signed up for the Regional way in advance.  

 

 

If you had a qualifying JGS ranking you could exempt from local qualifying as well.  They also took Native American's into the field as exempt players.