Shafts w/ Similar Profile to Tour AD-DI driving iron?

[mwcallison]

I’ve been gaming the Tour AD-DI 95s driving iron shaft in my G400 3H, and it’s been the best hybrid shaft I’ve ever used. I then bought two of the Tour AD-DI hybrid models to put in my 4H and 5H, but they just don’t fit my swing.

On the Graphite Design site, the driving iron model is listed as Stiff->Firm->Medium from Butt to Tip. This is drastically different than the hybrid models or any other shafts they offer.

Does anyone know of similar shaft profiles? I‘m open to iron shafts, hybrid, woods - anything that weakens from tip to butt without losing too much stability.

I found an old Tour AD-UT that looks to have a similar profile and will install and test. The Tour AD-DJ looks similar in the wood category.

Any suggestions or resources would be much appreciated! I’ll be selling the AD-DI hybrids

[Russ757]

I stumbled across GDs g series hybrids and was really surprised how well they preformed. They're cheaper so you would be out much if it didn't work. G-Series Hybrid Shafts – Pro's Choice Golf Shafts

Another option might be the rogue black. A bit lighter abt 85, but it's been the best hybrid shaft I've used, and ironically made my ad dis expendable.

[WristySwing]

I think you already have your answer, the DI-driving iron. You already know you like the feel of them and it works well for you in your 3H, so why wouldn't it work in your 4H and 5H? They are also over half the price of some of these other ones you are looking at. It makes sense, doesn't it? The DJ is discontinued, as it the UT so it might be tough to find those at local dealers to try unless they have a decent enough stock pile.

A similar weighted steel option would be something like the KBS $-Taper Lite 100 (Stiff). They come in taper or parallel depending on it you want to put it straight in or have a little wiggle room for tipping (or lackthereof). They have the kind of signature KBS bend profile which is Stiff in the handle and gradually gets softer towards the tip. I don't have access to the EI software at home but from this old posting comparing the KBS models you can see they all have generally similar EI patterns (loading patterns) with the Tour-V being the weird outlier. That doesn't surprise me though as that was meant to be something KBS generally didn't have at the time, a super stiff all over shaft with a medium tip to make sure it didn't fly head high. Since the $-Taper is designed to be a compliment in between the Tour and C-Taper you can generally see that probably makes the most sense based on the slope scores below.

[deep18]

The AD DI shafts you’re talking about are the same shafts. The older ones are labeled UT but it’s the same. Had one in a FliHi for a while, solid shaft just prefer the DI hybrid profile. I agree with the other opinions, just stay in the shaft you like and you know works. They make specific lengths for the 3-4-5 irons.

Tour AD Utility/Driving Iron – Pro's Choice Golf Shafts

[mwcallison]

Were the UT version shafts iron number specific like the driving iron shafts? Trying to figure out if I need to install the UT in a specific head or whether I can choose

[mwcallison]

I think you’re right. The answer has been staring me in the face but this is my first lightbulb moment with a specific profile, so I was wondering what options were out there for more educated testing I guess.

Funny enough, I have the 120 $-tapers in my irons and gap wedge! So you’re right on that recommendation! The Lite might be a good option in my 5H!

[Poolparty]

The AD driving iron and the AD hybrid are the same shaft?

[deep18]

Again the UT and driving iron shaft is the same shaft. There are specific lengths for 3, 4 and 5 irons.

[deep18]

No the Tour AD driving iron/utility shaft and the Tour AD DI Hybrid shaft are different shafts with different bend profiles.

[Poolparty]

Oh damn. I was thinking a heavier and black version of the hybrid would be ideal.

[robrey85]

I have the DI in my 3w, previously had it in my driver, so figured I would love the Tour AD 95x in my driving iron. I have never been more wrong in my life. I HATED it. It was a noodle and sooo unstable. I recently just swapped it out with a KBS Tour Hybrid Prototype 85s and wow, what a freaking difference!

[Russ757]

Ya the kbs proto makes a great driving iron shaft.

[mwcallison]

Thanks for the rec! What iron shafts do you use? I really like the $-tapers and am curious if this is similar to the KBS Tour profile and its progeny

[cardoustie]

Funny I like the hybrid versions better than the DI versions

[robrey85]

Currently, I use KBS C-Taper Lite X's. I could get by with the S's, but I chose the X because it was a more penetrating flight. The S had a tendency to balloon into the wind. I've never hit the $-tapers, but heard great things about em. In my wedges I have DG120S and I am very curious to try the X's in my irons and see how they perform because they're easier to load when I'm having a day when I'm sore.

[mwcallison]

I'm looking at switching to DG 120s in my wedges as well. How have they performed for you? I don't need a shaft that adds spin, but I also don't want something that is a spin reducer like the KBS 610.

[mwcallison]

Yes, that appears to be the more popular opinion since the driving iron version receives much less attention. I didn't even realize that I had the driving iron version until I noticed the slight difference in the graphics. It's really a great shaft though - very stable with a boring flight. I've never had a shot balloon with it, and that's something I struggle with on the course, especially in Texas winds.

[Poolparty]

So if I'm understanding this right, you want an AD driving shaft for you shorter hybrids? I think the move would be either using the same shaft but with a little more tipping, or trying the GD Tour AD iron shaft. https://proschoicegolfshafts.com/tour-ad-iron-shafts/ It look like they have the same specs, so it may be the same shaft. You could try the 105 in your 4 and the 115 in your 5. Will Peoples sells them to WRX members for only like $70 https://thepeoplesclubs.com/gd-tourad-iron.htmlThat's not the way it works. With high lofted wedges less dynamic loft (610) creates more spin, not less. The DG 120 is a great shaft though.

[robrey85]

I have them in my 58, 54 and 50 degree wedges, to me they feel great. Easy to load, control, add spin, take it off and have a great feel around the greens. The spin that I put on the ball is anywhere from 8-10k roughly per my last time on FS XI Tour a few weeks ago. They skyrocket and land soft, which could be good or bad depending on conditions and yardage along with shot being played but that's just golf. I would highly recommend these shafts for your wedges if you are considering it. Based on what you play, I don't think you will regret it.

[OspreyCI]

Russ,

Glad you posted this. Aldila sent me the new 2020 Black Rogue Hybrid shaft. Now just need shaft it up to my M2 19* or get a new TM head.

[Russ757]

Ya I'm looking at hose as well. Be curious of your thoughts