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That’s the in store date IIRC.

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Count me in the stranded category

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I have been stranded since February. I broke a full bag fitting into two and had the Driver/Woods/Hybrid fitting back in February. Next up was the irons and then the pandemic and I could not take the iron fitting. At my initial fitting I actually snuck in a few swings with the Mizuno Hot Metal, liked it, and the fitter also liked my numbers.

Fast forward the fitter is open but they are not allowing you to demo clubs in the bay. I would like to try a few different brands in the game improvement category including the Miura IC-601, Srixon 585, Epon AF-706, XXIO eleven, Titliest T300 and others. I did find that XXIO has a demo program so those demo irons are on the way. But trying out the others before I get to a fitting in September is frustrating.

You would think it would be easier to demo clubs, especially at a grass driving range or on course. My fitter has a guarantee but I would rather try the clubs on grass before buying.

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I guess that may be possible, but it seems incredibly unlikely. I can't see Mizuno doing one run to cover the entire 2 years a club will be sold. That would require a huge amount of warehousing clubs and lead to a lot of idle time in the factory since they have to make all of the clubs before a product launches. Since that retail launch date is supposedly 9/17, that means the factory will be sitting idle until they start building the MP-20 replacements which are a year away.

 

It seems more feasible that they were running out of clubs and decided that it wasn't worth doing another production run so close to the launch of the new product since they didn't want to have a lot of discounted old product sitting on the shelf next to the new stuff.

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Have you heard any details?

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Yes, they are definitely running the next model now, but they would have known 6 months ago that they were going to run out of inventory. The decision on whether to do another production run was made a long time ago probably around the start of COVID in China (late 2019). They had to either risk running out of inventory or potentially have a ton of product sitting on shelves depending on how COVID affected the market.

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I am in the same boat, I want to get some good wear marks on mine before replacing them!

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I don’t think the 921 Tour will be a huge departure from the 919 Tour. Subtle tweaks is all that’s required. The 919 Tour is so popular on Tour I just don’t see Mizuno getting too carried away.

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Here’s the video and time stamp where Chris Voshall take about Mizuno’s market strategy given that they are a smaller golf company:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=33oCMLzZZUk&T=26m40sThe highlights I picked up from this:
They have to order and buy from the HQ factory for Western Mizuno.
They order a specific quantity of clubs and can “sell out” if demand is higher than expected.
You’re right that they alternate years between JPX and MP lines, so it’s not like they sit idle for a year. They probably spend 6 months a year making Japanese clubs/JDM stuff and 6 months making that year’s JPX OR MP line.
If you were really curious, you could tweet Chris Voshall (or maybe he’ll see this, yikes!) and ask what the production runs for irons look like and if they differ from the woods. Although, I guess @ski350 was the one who was disappointed they ran out early.

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I am so excited, always love a Mizuno launch =D

Need a new cart bag as well and am eyeing on the Mizuno Pro Cart Bag. Cant beat the white and navy coloring

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Smaller foot print? Shorter blade from toe to heel would be great?

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Just hope the set flows a little more, so higher CG in short irons. Plus, i HOPE the lofts stay as is or at least dont get stronger

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Fingers crossed they reduce the offset on the tours. Those irons are perfect in every way accept for the offset. They need to give us true players CB offset a la the titleist CB or even the T100

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Thank you for the insight. My years of AJGA and D1 golf have deceived my eyes this entire time. I appreciate you enlightening me therealjonzone. Valuable contribution to this thread.

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Hmm. I agree. Whether the really numbers are different or the same. The 919 tours “appear” to have more offset. That is partly why I have been playing the cobra king forged CBs. Straighter too like and less offset. At least to my untrained eye. Haha.

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Maybe your eyes have deceived you....would explain the inability to get past D1 ???

All kidding aside, I just don’t see it personally, and I think it’s irrelevant and it’s over analyzed on here, more so by anyone who isn’t a +cap or playing competitively at the highest of levels, either pro or amateur.

regardless, Back to the thread - my apologies for anything less than excellence as it relates to contributing to the hype.

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The only reason would Mizuno reduce offset is because they reworked the weighting/CG of the club and taking out offset for playability is necessary.

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The hosel to leading edge transition can play a big part in perceived offset. They could clean that up and keep the “playability”.

 

That being said I would also prefer less offset in the tours.

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