Justin Rose leaving Honma ???

[dalehead]

Greg

I have always contended that a non contract player could get his clubs worked on at one of the tour vans with no problem. For example Taylor Made would be happy to work on Tommy Fleetwood’s irons or Ping on Patrick Reed’s driver. True?

[pga43]

Yes, true

[SUMM1T]

It's only a good thing for them if a non contracted player is using their gear.

[beedub96]

Thanks for everything you do week in and week out. You’re awesome! What’s your take on the whole Rose situation?

[pga43]

Thanks. Not sure I really have one cuz players change equipment and I have no idea what his contract says. A lot of speculation that he's leaving cuz of equipment but there could be many other reasons. He was still using the bag and wearing the cap, so is he really leaving??

 

Greg

[tbowles411]

Ditto Greg! You've been at this a long time!

[zonadub]

So here is an off the cuff idea... going back to the rumor of clubs being pulled. Someone on here said the JR Honmas were very similar to the TMs. Is it possible that TM has sued or gotten an injunction against Honma on some kind of patent infringement issue or proprietary process?

[pga43]

Thanks! Soon, I hope I'll be starting year 16 with Golfwrx

 

 

Greg

[Golfingfanatic]

No. Both the TM and the Honma irons are essentially copies of a MP-29 which is ultimately a copy of the Hogan Personal iron.

[MK7Golf21]

Of course, free advertisement of their clubs

[ccouples]

 

Ali Express often has non-authentic clubs (and lots of other items) for sale, too.

[Langlands]

Rose seems like an honourable guy, and will want to see out his Honma contract in the spirit that he signed with them i.e. using the required number of clubs as specified in the terms. He's struggling with his game and seems to be lacking in confidence, so not that surprising that he is tinkering and going back to the brand with which he had most success.

I've read elsewhere that contract clauses allowing players to use alternative brands if they are unsatisfied with the product of the company they are endorsing is not uncommon. Only time will tell whether he makes it back to Honma clubs or not; I believe that if he gets to the point where he feels that he cannot play with them in the long term only then will they part company.

     

[PhlashPhace]

I used to work on an independent truck many moons ago. Players didn't pay us but we got some money from smaller manufacturers who couldn't justify a full truck but had a rep out. It would be if like Lamb wanted his putters out on tour, he would pay a rep to travel from event to event and he would have access to our truck as well as us for builds. Lamb would ship product to us and would pay us a sort of rent to access our truck. We also had a couple shaft manufacturers that used our truck as a sort of warehouse for captive trucks. We would keep a bunch of their product on hand and then replenish the OEM trucks when they needed it. They also paid us a fee for that service.

I'm not sure if that is still how those trucks work but we were one of a few of them at the time.

[pga43]

Still happening that way

 

Greg

[makaveli]

I thought Rosey went to Morgan Stanley for support/clubs

[rkelso184]

Recon honma said "its not the clubs and to prove it we will let you play what you want for x amount of rounds to prove that to you"

[tickyboy]

That's going to be a real kick to JR.

I mean, you ALWAYS blame the clubs.

[llewol007]

Justin can play just about anything as well as any pro out there. He probably asked for the clause about being able to play other clubs as well. If i was Honma I would be happy to have him playing the irons and have their brand on his hat and shirts and even bag. At the end of the day it’s whom ever throws the most money at them.

[npintooo12]

I was happy to see this, as a golf junkie and gear geek myself, I always raise a brow when pros take to companies outside of the attainability of the public. Homna, Xxio, even PXG. That's a selfish point. On a strictly professional opinion, Rosie was unflappable with Taylormade. Couple majors and a Gold medal to go along with those Ryder Cups...numbers don't lie!

[GoGoErky]

They aren’t unattainable by the public. Some can afford and some can’t. The same can be said for most brands. Look at various forums or Facebook groups and people looking for cheaper options on used gear or previous models discounts because they can’t afford the latest driver or irons.

[BCC1898]

A matter of fact, Honma’s last driver iteration was available at PGATSS for like $125!

[npintooo12]

Not on Facebook and new to these forums. Thanks for the insight though!

[grm24]

Rose has won a couple of majors? After his US Open win at Merion what other major did he win?

[npintooo12]

I for some reason thought he had an Open Championship as well but the "open" was US Open at Merion.

You all have taught me a lesson to do some more research prior to posting.

Thanks, takes care!

[SteveC223]

Haha not sure if it was mentioned in the previous 9 pages but according to (The Shotgun Start Podcast) Rose threw his Honma clubs in a LAKE before bayhill out of frustration... He was pictured with a full set of TM rose irons and vokey wiedges along with SIM woods the next day...

[JungleJimbo]

@SteveC223 Pls help...which specific episode of ShotgunStart=mentions Justin Rose ? throwing those clubs into a Lake ? ? thanks!
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[Shilgy]

Close...$499 marked down from $599

https://www.pgatoursuperstore.com/tw-747-460-driver-w%2F-vizard-graphite-shaft/2000000004481.html?cgid=golf-clubs-drivers#prefn1=brand&prefv1=Honma+Golf&start=1

[Golfingfanatic]

I think he means the one before the 747. The 737 could/can be had for a song.

[SteveC223]

It was the March 6th episode titled Honma's respect for Arnie,The every man, and the PGA Tour curriculum.

[CoJo5434]

This was a perfect storm for J Rose. Got to link up with Mark King again and while with Honma was able to become an essential part to the R&D process. Found what he liked and didn’t like and will now go back to Taylormade