What's wrong with 10 year old clubs?

[geochitown]

i've got multiple sets of Maxfli Revolution Black Dots (1999), and have just recently switched over to Wishon 560MC irons.

Great one piece forgings (Wishon), butter nickel coated casting on the Maxfli's.

Easy to buy used and be particular about face condition and get loft/lie checked.

Since you seem not to mind the AP1's, maybe stay with them.

But if you go to replace them, I'd be the first to tell you no worries with 10 year old irons.

 

 

[coops]

As far as one piece forged cavity back irons... there hasn't been any 'tech' improvements whatsoever over the last 10 years. Just a lot of design churn, and maybe some minor loft jacking for some models... but changing a '9' to 'PW' on the sole of the club doesn't count as 'tech'. Plenty of different designs so you can find one set that fits your eye best whether that's low or high offset, thick or thin top lines etc but 'tech' improvements... nope.

Pretty sure there were high COR faced irons around 10 years ago even then.

 

If only Bubba knew not to play those Ping S59's for 10 years (and those are some more techy irons than a forged cavity back)

[Davidv]

Nothing huh lol. Okay if you say so.

[RogerinNewZealand]

Coops the huge tech leap was the Ping S58!Way ahead of S59.Style and Substance.

[ian-500]

Gaming TM R9 forged from 2009/10. No need to change yet......

[Opi22]

As long as they are well maintained you may lose some distance compare to new technology but that’s about it

[JosephNewton293]

Just looking through the Maltby playability chart it looks like the older clubs were more forgiving/playable ? Just look at the Callaway line...

[skyleralan]

I haven't been able to get a set of Cobra S2 Forged irons out of my bag!! Currently have a set of i500s that I will FINALLY get to hit this weekend. If I don't like the Pings then back to the Cobras. They have stood the test of time, just great feel and consistent performance.

[NoTalentLefty]

Admiration to people who play older clubs. I’m not one who could but should. I’ve had my AP1 718s going on 3rd season but tried to replace them twice. Yes I’m a dumb a$$.

[anythingfinite]

I needed to see this today. Been kicking around the idea of new irons for a bit, but everything I have hit in the past 2-3 years gives me similar numbers as my 10 year old irons. I did just buy a set of KBS shafts to put in them.

[ex0dus]

I have an old Nike SQ2 3w that i probably need to replace. On good swings it does exactly what i want but catch it a little thin and the distance loss is pretty big.

[forrester_fire]

Other than SGI irons, there really isn't much difference in today's irons vs. an 11 year old model. Lofts might be a bit different, but there isn't a huge amount of tech in player's irons.

[NRJyzr]

10 year old irons seem pretty new to me. I only have a couple sets newer than that, one of those by only a year.

I don't think there's anything wrong with 30 or even 40 year old irons.

[woody1351]

I’m still playing Ping i20 irons, a TaylorMade R1 driver and the original Scotty Cameron Futura putter.

[Benkross]

Those are great irons, but don't take advantage of design improvements and increased MOI. They don't have any tungsten so they can't perimeter weight as much. While actual size of the sweet spot might not be that different (a few millimeters) percentage wise it's a big difference. If you consistently hit the center, you have no worries. There are slight differences in launch and spin rate and lowering of CG.

[NoFancyUsername.]

Why don't you back up your blase' statement with fact?

[Davidv]

My Blase' statement rofl

[Jaygolf37]

As said by others earlier, the advances in drivers, fairways, and Hybrids are easy to defend. Irons...it gets a little murkier.

I still game these circa 1997 beauties. And they are going nowhere. I’m sure there are comparable irons out there that are “recent”. But I see no reason to switch them so I can attach a different yardage to the number on the sole. These, for me, are everything I could want in my scoring clubs. Consistency, workability (both vertically and left/right), and forgiveness. Last round was 73 for them. When my game is off, more times than not, it’s off the tee or a putter. I don’t think there has been a measurable improvement for irons that I’d game.

...although I’ve tried, and like tons...

[jons1]

There's something to be said for having equipment you know inside and out. Years of trials and tribulations, and knowing well the strengths and weaknesses of you playing them, to help you manage your way around the course.

Our games change over time, and what we use to play with doesn't fit our swings as well as they did in the past. Sometimes they were never well fit. So I wouldn't discount the idea of trying new clubs out, but I think it goes without saying they should reasonably outperform and/or bring more enjoyment to you over what you already have.

 

[Yuck]

To the OP, there is a set of Callaway cb 2009 on Callaway pre owned right now. They are “NG”, which was the limited run with the new legal grooves. They are pretty cheap.

[BenHoganSlam1953]

Absolutely nothing wrong at all! I have MP-32s from 2004 (legal for the 2010 rules). They were mint when I picked them up 10 years ago; and although I've tried quite a few other irons, these ones remain in the bag. I only pulled the PW last year for a Vokey wedge in order to match my other wedges.

[Circaflex]

S55s*

[anythingfinite]

No, Bubba played the 59s for like a decade.

[Circaflex]

Thanks for the lesson! Appreciate learning something new each day.

[Hester65]

More comes into it than just matching loft and lie when it comes to matching a players iron to a game improvement iron. You could jack the bounce up on the players iron if you bend them too far forward. Most gamers have a more aggressive leading edge and thinner sole. Combine that with far less than originally intended bounce, and you are losing some forgiveness. You got to know your swing and your miss-strike tendencies. Altering loft is one way to go but shaft length is also an avenue to explore.

[NoFancyUsername.]

yep.....Let's hear it, tell us of the great technological leap on iron manufacturing over the last 10 years....or you don't have fact??

 

[tgoodspe1991]

With irons there's no difference. They're all just hunks of metal at the end of sticks. Some iron heads today are more advanced with multi-material construction and tungsten weighting, but, in reality, it doesn't make any difference. You could take a 20 year old iron and a modern one and they would perform the same.

Woods/hybrids, however, are a different story. Older stuff is still really good, but modern equipment is much stronger in the forgiveness and ball speed retention category. You could still go back ~5 years with drivers and see a negligible difference, but any further than that you might start to see some dropoffs.

Personally, I can't go any further back than 2010 because I do play in competitions. But if I could, you better believe I'd have a mixed bag of very old and new stuff!

 

[Davidv]

Do your own research and hopefully you will find that there have been tech improvements in the last 10 years. If you do not agree stick with whatever equipment you have. I certainly have no intention of detailing each manufacturers improvements over the past 10 years for you. A bit of ambition versus cynicism on your part might help and even lower that 20 handicap you possess. Good luck.

[Davidv]

[gdb99]

I play in state events, men's club tournaments, and an am tour I joined this year. In Connecticut, as long as an iron was on the 2010 conforming list, they are good for competition.