Jump to content

3 Wood Shaft into 2 Iron??


MurphyAttacks
 Share

Recommended Posts

I have a spare CB 2iron head, .355 that I was considering experimenting with. I have an old stock graphite 3-wood shaft (X-stiff, 70g) that is sitting around and was considering putting it in the 2-iron and trying it out as a pseudo-driving iron. My initial tinkering seems like I need to cut the butt down about 3" to get to the proper length relative to my 3-iron. Any inputs or thoughts on if this could be a worthwhile experiment? Or just a terrible idea?

Thanks!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 14
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

I can be shimmed, but there want me much left of the butt section on that shaft, so its a question of how it will play. (i have not seen the EI profile for it, so i cant tell), and you will most likely need some BU tape to get size enough to add a grip, so in general...not a good idea.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Also it will probably just look odd, with a .335 shaft coming out of what would usually be .370 at the end of the ferrule. And really light weight. And you have to figure out how to tip it to deal with the head weight difference. All that being said, if the shaft isn't going to be used otherwise and you are just looking for an experiment, then give it a go.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

You'll need to tip it and use a shim. With cutting it down that much... in my experience it will probably feel much stiffer than you'd want.

Ping G410+ 9*| Ventus Red 7x

Ping G410 3w | Fuji Pro 2.0 TS 8x

Ping G410 3h 19* | Ventus Blue 9x

T200/T100 Combo | PX LZ 6.5

SM8 46* | PX LZ 6.5

Glide 3.0 50*, 54*, 58* | S400 TI

 

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

You’d have to tip trim that shaft to the point where it would be too stiff for Greg Norman. Plus, it’s kind of light.

Driver: Titleist 913 D3 8.5° A-1 setting Graphite Design YS-6+ 65g stiff

Wood:  Titleist 980F 17° Aldila NV stiff

Hybrid: Titleist 909H 21° Aldila Voodoo stiff 

Irons:  Titleist 716 AP2 4- W  DG AMT S300

Wedges: Titleist Vokey SM7  54°,  58° DG S200

Putter:  Odyssey White Hot #1 Tour

Ball: Titleist Pro V1

Link to comment
Share on other sites

If he tips it appropriately AND cuts it down to a driving iron length, you say it will feel softer? I'm not sure I understand. Perhaps if he didn't tip it at all I could see that.

Last year I took an old 3w shaft I had laying around that was tipped 1/2'', and cut it down from the 42.25'' to like 38.5'' to try some experiment with a 5w head I had laying around (tried to make like a forgiving but accurate club). I added weight to the 5w head to get a good swing weight and did not tip the shaft. It felt stiff as a board and was awful. It was a diamana B shaft as well, so it wasn't an overly stiff design to begin with.

Ping G410+ 9*| Ventus Red 7x

Ping G410 3w | Fuji Pro 2.0 TS 8x

Ping G410 3h 19* | Ventus Blue 9x

T200/T100 Combo | PX LZ 6.5

SM8 46* | PX LZ 6.5

Glide 3.0 50*, 54*, 58* | S400 TI

 

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Interesting, although not really enough details about your build to really know how it might relate to the OP's. It would certainly interesting to see some frequency numbers on a build like that. How much build up tape did you need to get the grip size correct?

If he could tip it properly maybe, but I was thinking that most wood shafts don't have a parallel tip section long enough to tip for that much extra weight.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Not too much extra bc the diamana B I had was a 630 OD at the butt (uncut, 80g version).

I think you hit the nail though... Definitely need to make sure he would have enough inches to get a proper tip. I don't think he had given the head weight here, so it's just a guess at this joint.

 

Ping G410+ 9*| Ventus Red 7x

Ping G410 3w | Fuji Pro 2.0 TS 8x

Ping G410 3h 19* | Ventus Blue 9x

T200/T100 Combo | PX LZ 6.5

SM8 46* | PX LZ 6.5

Glide 3.0 50*, 54*, 58* | S400 TI

 

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

A #2 iron head should be about 233 grams, and close to a 7W, so head weight might not be the largest issue, while both shaft weight and lack of butt section might.

Shaft weight alone is like you know a large mess, woods is either 46 or 47 long, while Hybrids is most often only 42, so "70 grams and 70 grams" is not the same weight.

70 grams /46" uncut = 1.52 grams pr inch x net cut shaft L (lets use 38") = 57.8 grams net shaft wgt

70 grams /42" uncut = 1.66 grams pr inch x 38 = 63.3 grams

Most players who hits a 70 gr X flex 3W, would be in the area of 90 grams uncut for a Hybrid /42" = 2.15 grams pr inch x 38 = 82 grams net cut wgt.

..he will be like 24 grams down vs what we normally use as hybrid shafts if the 3W shaft was 70 gr uncut

Softer or stronger vs butt section is a question of EI profile. If this shaft is like RIFLE FCM with a almost strait line on flex progression from mid to butt, it play WAY softer when most of the butt is cut off, (7 cpm pr inch butt section on the same PL) while if it has a very weak butt into a stiff midsection, flex might not be that bad, but the grip will not have much of a tip section to be installed on, so a large part will be down at the taper part of the shaft and need a ton of BU tape, maybe enough to counterbalance the shaft...(haha..no i dont think it will be Counter weighted, i only visualize the project)

For fun, it could be tried if that shaft is "worthless", and a shim from .335 to .355 can be made....

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Been away from a computer for a few days, but I appreciate all the feedback!

For some clarity; I'm extremely amateur at club making/tinkering and just enjoy messing with extra stuff I come across, or that gets replaced with newer stuff in my bag. So this entire project/experiment was born completely from just having extra stuff around and too much time on my hands. Not a super serious undertaking to get a truly usable or in the bag club; more of a let's see what happens...if it works, awesome! If not, oh well!

After initial tinkering, I realized the difference in the shaft being .335 vs. the .355, so going to try a shim. The shaft is a stock aldila, nothing fancy, that I don't have any use for and seems more hassle to try and sell/ship when I can maybe get some fun out of it. Also, never use the 2-iron and is currently un-shafted, (and i don't have a weight for the head, sorry!).

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

@MurphyAttacks just realize that the difference between a .335" tip and a .355 tp tip is much more than those numbers make it seem. A .355 shaft is only that diameter at the very tip and it tapers up to .370 over the first 1/2" of the tip. So for most of the hosel insertion depth, the difference is really .035" not 0.020".
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 1 year later...
On 5/22/2020 at 4:34 AM, MurphyAttacks said:

Been away from a computer for a few days, but I appreciate all the feedback!

For some clarity; I'm extremely amateur at club making/tinkering and just enjoy messing with extra stuff I come across, or that gets replaced with newer stuff in my bag. So this entire project/experiment was born completely from just having extra stuff around and too much time on my hands. Not a super serious undertaking to get a truly usable or in the bag club; more of a let's see what happens...if it works, awesome! If not, oh well!

After initial tinkering, I realized the difference in the shaft being .335 vs. the .355, so going to try a shim. The shaft is a stock aldila, nothing fancy, that I don't have any use for and seems more hassle to try and sell/ship when I can maybe get some fun out of it. Also, never use the 2-iron and is currently un-shafted, (and i don't have a weight for the head, sorry!).

 

Keen to hear how this went or is going?  I've looked at a similar experiment with old clubs laying around and wondered about the results.  

 

  • Ping G400 9* Fujikura Speeder 661 X (+16g head weight)
  • Tour Edge Exotics CB3 Tour 18*, True Temper Bi Matrix RXi X 
  • Adams Idea A7 19* & 22* UST V2 Hybrid X +0.5'
  • Mizuno MP20 HMB 4i KBS C-Taper 130X +0.5' 2 deg up
  • Mizuno MP20 MMC 5-7 Nippon Modus 3 130X +0.5' 2 deg up
  • Mizuno MP20 MB 8-PW Nippon Modus 3 130X +0.5' 2 deg up
  • Cleveland RTX3 V-MG 50* TT S400 +0.5'
  • Nike Engage Raw 54* TT S400 +0.5'
  • Cleveland RTX 588 Rotex 2.0 60* TT S400 +0.5'
  • EVNROLL 2.2 35' Super Stroke GTR 1.0

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Our picks

    • 2021 RSM Classic - Discussion and Links
      2021 RSM Classic - Monday
      2021 RSM Classic - Tuesday #1
      2021 RSM Classic - Tuesday #2
       
       
      Trey Mullinax - WITB - 2021 RSM Classic
      Brett Drewitt - WITB - 2021 RSM Classic
      Matt Wallace - WITB - 2021 RSM Classic
      Josh Creel - WITB - 2021 RSM Classic
      Ben Crane - WITB - 2021 RSM Classic
      Justin Lower - WITB - 2021 RSM Classic
      Adam Svensson - WITB - 2021 RSM Classic
      Brendon Todd - WITB - 2021 RSM Classic
      Webb Simpson - WITB - 2021 RSM Classic
      Chesson Hadley - WITB - 2021 RSM Classic
      Kiradech Aphibarnrat - WITB - 2021 RSM Classic
      Bill Haas - WITB - 2021 RSM Classic
      Max Homa - WITB - 2021 RSM Classic
      Nick Watney - WITB - 2021 RSM Classic
       
       
      New Odyssey Tri Hot putters - 2021 RSM Classic
       
       
       
       
      • 1 reply
    • 2021 Hewlett Packard Enterprise Houston Open - Discussion & Links
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
      Pat Perez - WITB @ 2021 Hewlett Packard Enterprise Houston Open
      Tony Finau - WITB @ 2021 Hewlett Packard Enterprise Houston Open
      Kramer Hickok - WITB @ 2021 Hewlett Packard Enterprise Houston Open
      Paul Barjon - WITB @ 2021 Hewlett Packard Enterprise Houston Open
      Nate Lashley - WITB @ 2021 Hewlett Packard Enterprise Houston Open
      Seamus Powers - WITB @ 2021 Hewlett Packard Enterprise Houston Open
      Dylan Frittelli - WITB @ 2021 Hewlett Packard Enterprise Houston Open
      C.T. Pan - WITB @ 2021 Hewlett Packard Enterprise Houston Open
      Chase Koepka - WITB @ 2021 Hewlett Packard Enterprise Houston Open
      Branden Grace - WITB @ 2021 Hewlett Packard Enterprise Houston Open
      Marc Leishman - WITB @ 2021 Hewlett Packard Enterprise Houston Open
      Martin Laird - WITB @ 2021 Hewlett Packard Enterprise Houston Open
      Shane Lowery - WITB - @ 2021 Hewlett Packard Enterprise Houston Open
       
      Cameron CT T-11 putter - WITB @ 2021 Hewlett Packard Enterprise Houston Open
      New Graphite Design shafts - WITB @ 2021 Hewlett Packard Enterprise Houston Open
      Cameron cover from 2021 ZOZO Championship - @ 2021 Hewlett Packard Enterprise Houston Open
      Bettinardi covers - @ 2021 Hewlett Packard Enterprise Houston Open
      Cameron CT putters - @ 2021 Hewlett Packard Enterprise Houston Open
       
       
      2021 Hewlett Packard Enterprise Houston Open - Tuesday #1
      2021 Hewlett Packard Enterprise Houston Open - Tuesday #2
      2021 Hewlett Packard Enterprise Houston Open - Tuesday #3
      2021 Hewlett Packard Enterprise Houston Open - Tuesday #4
      2021 Hewlett Packard Enterprise Houston Open - Wednesday #1
      2021 Hewlett Packard Enterprise Houston Open - Wednesday #2
      2021 Hewlett Packard Enterprise Houston Open - Wednesday #3
       
       
       
       
      • 1 reply
    • APPLY NOW: L.A.B. Golf MEZZ.1 Putter (Early Access) Member Testing! 10 Testers Needed!
      L.A.B. Golf is choosing ten GolfWRX members to receive their MEZZ.1 putter early and put their brand new product to the test before reporting back to the community about what they see. The selected testers will be one of the first to experience the MEZZ.1 from L.A.B. GOLF, their newest Lie Angle Balanced design, ahead of it's January 2022 launch!
       
      About The L.A.B. Golf Mezz.1 Putter
      MEZZ.1 is our new mid-mallet putter that’s fully CNC machined from a billet of 6061 aircraft aluminum (body) and 303 stainless steel (midsection) to create our best-feeling — and we think best looking — putter to date. It includes 10 weights (eight on the bottom, two on the sides) that allow us to individually build each putter to a golfer’s exact specifications.
       
      How To Apply
      In a post below, answer the following questions.
       
      1. City, State?
      2. Handicap?
      3. What is your current putter?
      4. Have you ever used a L.A.B. Golf putter?
      5. Why do you want to review the MEAZZ.1 putter?
      6. Do you agree to participate in an ongoing testing thread, posting reviews and photos?
       
      That's it! @labgolf and GolfWRX will choose the testers in about 2 weeks! This testing event is for good-standing members in the USA only!
       
        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 435 replies
    • 2021 CJ Cup at The Summit Club - Discussion and Links
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
      2021 CJ Cup at The Summit Club - Tuesday #1
      2021 CJ Cup at The Summit Club - Tuesday #2
       
       
      Adam Scott - WITB - 2021 CJ Cup at The Summit Club
      Justin Rose - WITB - 2021 CJ Cup at The Summit Club
      Collin Morikawa - WITB - 2021 CJ Cup at The Summit Club
      Jason Day - WITB - 2021 CJ Cup at The Summit Club
      Justin Thomas - WITB - 2021 CJ Cup @ The Summit Club
      Erik Van Rooyen - WITB - 2021 CJ Cup @ The Summit Club
      Matt Jones - WITB - 2021 CJ Cup at The Summit Club
      Cam Davis - WITB - 2021 CJ Cup at The Summit Club
      Cam Smith - WITB - 2021 CJ Cup at The Summit Club
      Byeong Hun An - WITB - 2021 CJ Cup at The Summit Club
      Min Kyu - WITB - 2021 CJ Cup at The Summit Club
      Joohyung Kim - WITB - 2021 CJ Cup @ The Summit Club
      Tommy Fleetwood - WITB - 2021 CJ Cup @ The Summit Club
      Jordan Spieth - WITB - 2021 CJ Cup @ The Summit Club
      Lucas Glover - WITB - 2021 CJ Cup @ The Summit Club
      Keegan Bradley - WITB - 2021 CJ Cup @ The Summit Club
       
       
       
      Gary Woodland's new Cameron putter - 2021 CJ Cup @ The Summit Club
      Kevin Na's new Odyssey/Toulon putter - 2021 CJ Cup @ The Summit Club
      Jucie wedges & Proto irons - 2021 CJ Cup at The Summit Club
       
       
       
       
      • 6 replies
    • 2021 Shriners Hospitals for Children Open WITB Photos- Discussion & Links
      Please put any questions or comments here...
       
      Links:
       
      Harry Higgs - WITB - 2021 Shriners Hospitals for Children Open
      Ian Poulter - WITB - 2021 Shriners Hospitals for Children Open
      Corey Conners - WITB - 2021 Shriners Hospitals for Children Open
      Harry Higgs - WITB - 2021 Shriners Hospitals for Children Open
      Matt NeSmith - WITB - 2021 Shriners Hospitals for Children Open
      Doug Ghim - WITB - 2021 Shriners Hospitals for Children Open
      New Cameron Las Vegas covers - 2021 Shriners Hospitals for Children Open
      New Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX shafts - 2021 Shriners Hospitals doe Children Open
       
       

       
        • Like
      • 15 replies
×
×
  • Create New...