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If playing a CB set, I pretty well always carry the set 4i. If playing a thin soled bladed set, I usually put in my 23* Anser hybid or pick up a same name brand DI in the 23* range. Current iBlade set, I don't mind the 4i, but if I feel that I'm going to need a little help, then I'll shaft up my I20 4i and bag it.

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I200, flies about 10-15 yards longer than my s56 4 iron

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TSi2 (18), Tensei AV Raw White 85TX

U85 (22), X100

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I used to carry AP2 4i until I got u510 4i, it’s pretty much ap2 3i loft and length but whatever.

 

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Geom Moe Irons  29° 37° 45°

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Scotty California Monterey

 

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I (accidentally) wrapped my 4 iron around a low overhanging branch with my old irons and never got around to getting the shaft replaced - so I had an unusual set of 2 hybrid, 3 hybrid, 3 iron, 5 iron.

Now I have a 4 iron in my 4 iron slot - Titleist T100 irons 3 to pitching.

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Titleist 2021 T200 2 iron | Mitsubishi Tensei AV Raw White 100X

Titleist 2021 T200 3 iron | KBS Tour 130X

Titleist 2021 T100S 4-PW  | KBS Tour 130X

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Curious on your thoughts on the 7 wood. What sort of situations do you use it, ball flight etc.. I have a 21 degree hybrid 816 H1 which I like but mybe my 917 F2 needs a little sister... Assuming the 7 wood would fly higher and longer?

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G425 19*
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@DNice26 said, Considering a utility or perhaps a different, lighter higher launching shaft in the 4 iron.
My irons are parallel tip, so I put a lighter hybrid shaft in my 4i (see below). I picked up about 8 yards off the tee, and I can now hit it off a decent fairway lie.
In our case, you might stay in-house with KBS. The TGI graphite shaft has versions for both parallel and taper tip irons, and has weight options up to 110 grams.https://kbsgolfshafts.com/shop/tgi-tour-graphite-iron/
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Driver:  Tour Edge EXS 10.5° (base loft); weights neutral   ||  FWs:  Calla Rogue 4W + 7W

Hybrid:  Calla Big Bertha OS 4H at 22°  ||  Irons:  Calla Mavrik MAX 5i-PW

Wedges*:  Calla MD3: 48°... MD4: 54°, 58° ||  PutterΨSeeMore FGP + SuperStroke 1.0PT, 33" shaft

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Usually I just carry the 4 iron from my VR Pros - don;t have any issues with launching it, but it does leave a bit of a gap between that and my 19 degree hybrid. I picked up a 3 iron over Christmas which filled that gap nicely, but meant I had to go down to 3 wedges which gave me less options round the green.

 

So I've ordered a Nike Vapor Fly Pro 4 iron off eBay, which should be here in the next couple of days. Looks to be the same spec as the 3 iron I picked up, so hopefully should fit between my 3 hybrid and 5 iron nicely. 5 iron is good for 195, and the Hybrid 220 - 240, so as long as it's between those I'll be good.

I looked at the U500 and the Callaway UT, but the top lines were far too jarring compared to the blades from 5i down. I've got a VF Pro 2 iron which I'm quite comfortable with the look of, so fingers crossed!

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Henrik - Titleist 917 F3 15 deg, Rogue Max 75x, B2 Setting

The Walking Stick - Titleist 818 H2 19 deg, Rogue Max 85x, B2 Setting

The Interloper - TaylorMade P770 3 iron, S400 Tour Issue, +0.5inch +1 deg loft

The Blades - Nike VR Pro 4 - AW, S400 Tour Issue, +0.5 inch

The Sand Iron - TaylorMade MG2 TW-12 Grind, 56 degree, S400 Tour Issue

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IMO the 7 wood is in the 3i slot (if it’s around 21 degrees) and a 9 wood or 22/23 degree hybrid is in the 4i slot.

7 wood will fly higher and longer than a hybrid of the same loft, due to a longer shaft and pulled back COG.

I love the 7 wood for tee shots on tight par 4s and approach shots that come in soft.

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7 woods are so underrated, although they are starting to become more of a hot item as several tour pros are playing them. They are super easy to hit, unbeatable out of the rough and are fantastic for hitting into greens. I had (and still have) a 917 F2 7 wood. The only issue I had with it was that it was a little too much of a good thing. It spun like crazy (and I'm already high spin). On the one hand, that was cool because I could hit the ball 215 and land it like a six iron. But the downside was just not enough distance for gapping purposes. So now I have switched to a low-spin shaft and the TS2, which I love. It's just as easy to hit as the 917 and I get about 10-15 more yards out of it (220-230 carry). I have actually just concluded that the gaps work for me to keep the 4 iron in the bag. I'm just going to pull the 2 iron. Compared with a hybrid, the 7 wood is a little easier to hit, but it also (for me) is less likely to produce a hard-left shot or anything out of control. Hybrids can get away from me too easily.

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I just play set 4i. I can hold a green off a tee with it, but rarely am I trying to fly it 225 and stop on a dime from the fairway, so it'll roll to 240. The 22.5* 4 iron gaps well with the 5i (212), 5W (235) and 3W (255). All of these are at altitude btw.

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In my 4i slot I have .......... a 4i!

I'm playing a Srixon Z785 at 23*. I have no problem getting it airborne it's super at hitting low runners under tree branches. I carry it 190-ish in the air which fits several of our par 3-s in certain flag/wind combinations. It's also a good layup club on a couple of our par 5s.

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Titleist TSR2 4W : Tensei 1K Black 85-S

Mizuno CLK 19*: Ventus Blue HB-8S

Srixon ZX Utility #4: Nippon Modus3 125-S

Wilson Staff CB 5-PW : Nippon Modus3 125-S

Cleveland Zipcore 50, 54, 58: Nippon Modus3 125-S 

Piretti Potenza 370g : Breakthrough Technology Stability Shaft - 34"

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Just recently switched from set 4 iron, Bridgestone tour b cb to Bridgestone hf2 4 iron. What I love about the switch is, from address it still looks very similar. Thin top line, a hair longer heel to toe. However, their is a little more perimeter weighting that is hidden very well. Thin face promotes extra ball speed but still forged so the feel is there as well.

I contemplate putting a hybrid in play, but I struggle with them. I’m also a high spin player so 5 wood is also a struggle. Just feel more comfortable with irons in my hand.

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Wilson   Staff CB 7-P / D9 Forged 5-6  Modus 120x

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I have a 4i and 5h in that spot. Hybrids have been love/hate, mostly hate recently. They have the propensity to develop a bad hook at the worst times.

While I've pretty much given up on the 3h, I can't completely give up the 5h, it's a versatile club. Even though it has an occasional hook, I can't completely give it up. There's some things that can be done with hybrids that can't be easily done with other clubs.

That all said, I love my set Ping Rapture 4i. An easy to replicate nice, piercing high straight shot. Off the tee, off the deck, out of the second cut, out of trouble with low hanging branches just in front. Up until recently I've been mostly using my 5h, but I've gone back to the 4i being my "go to" club for that distance, and I've been striking that 4i better then ever.

 

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I was looking for hybrids with a metal shaft and ended up with some G10's. I find both (21 and 24 degrees) easy to hit and control, with no tenancy to hook. The ball launches high, but seems to be unaffected by the wind.

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I practice with a 4i to keep with the confidence but I don't play courses that have a need the for tight tee shots or lots of 200y par 3s. The 23d 4 hybrid for me is more versatile. Miss a fairway on a par 5? Hack out with the 4H and advance it a decent ways. Some carry 5/7w for that task, I 4H it :) I have my hybrids trimmed to more normal lengths for added control and just hit the numbers with them (190-200y the 23d, +15 for the 19d). P770 and a CB1008 are the ones I do have. The CB is a pretty club :)

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I do both a different head and lighter shaft and works out great for me. Irons are 900 Tours w/ Recoil 125's but for my 4 and 5 I play Titleist T-MB's with Recoil 110's. Very pleased with this set up.

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Ping G425 Max 9* Ventus Black 7X                                         Taylor Made 300 Mini 13.5* Rogue Silver 70TX

Taylor Made 300 Mini 13.5* Rogue Silver 70TX                      Tour Edge Exotics CBX 20* Aldila Rip Alpha 105X

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Titleist TS3 21* Rogue Black 95TX                                          Ben Hogan Ft Worth 32*, 38*, 44*, 50* Recoil 125X

Titleist T200 5 MCI Black 100X                                                Ben Hogan TK-15 58* Recoil Wedge Proto 125X

Titleist T100S 6-AW MCI Black 100X                                       Ping Vault Anser 2

Bettinardi HLX 3.0 56* MCI Mild 125                                        

Fourteen RM-22 60* Black Onyx S400

Cameron Special Select Squareback 2

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I was playing my set 4i (JPX 850F) and broke the shaft hitting a punch under a tree last year. The shaft (XP115 S300) was discontinued, so I picked up a used Titleist 815h1 to replace. I wish I had done that earlier; I could hit a 4 iron well about 1 out of 2 and the hybrid has been much more consistent.

I never had any problems launching the 4i, but mentally I always felt like I needed to step on it, leading to inconsistent results.

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Mizuno mp fli hi (cut muscle) 23* #4. It’s an older model but he can hit it a distance that has no gap Issue with 21* hybrid or 5 iron.

Taylormade M5 Tour 10.5* 

Taylormade 300 Series 15*

Taylormade Sim2 Max 18*

Titleist 818H2  21*

Titleist 718 TMB 4 24*

Titleist 718 AP2  5-PW

Mizuno T20  54*   58*

Taylormade Spider GT  #3

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