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I currently have Steelhead XR irons and Steelhead XR hybrids. I only have the 4h in the bag at the moment. Wanting to replace it with an anti left hybrid like the apex. I like the high ball flight I get, but hate not being able to fade it.

In the bag

Driver: Taylormade Sim2 Max 9*

4w: Callaway Mavrik Sub Zero

Hybrid:  Apex 19 3h 20*

Hybrid:  Apex 19 4h 23*

Irons: Callaway Apex CF 19 5i-AW

W1: Vokey SM7 54* S

W2: Vokey SM8 60* L

Putter: Swag Handsome Too

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22 and 25* hybrids, TEE XCG7 Beta's with Thump 4 iron shaft and trying the 22* with Aldila Rogue 130, thanks Russ757!

TM SIM 10.5* - Ventus Velocore Blue TR 5S
TEE  XCG7B  3h  19* Ventus Velocore HB Blue 8S  
TEE  XCG7B  4h  22* Ventus Velocore HB Blue 8S
TEE  XCG7B  5h  25* Diamana Thump i465ct 4iron shaft
Wishon 560MC 5-PW (26,30,34,38,42.5,47) Recoil Proto 125 F4
Vokey SM7 50-08F S200 bent to 51*
Wishon HM wedges 56/60 Wishon Smooth steel Stiff
2013-2016 SC Futura X5R 33' flownecked by Bastain-cerakote sniper gray-silver dots-white flange sight line-SS Flatso 2.0

TM TP5x

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919 HM Pro 4 iron. Favourite club to hit, don't have any issues getting it up in the air. Only workaround is if I'm pushing the top end distance then it can end up long of the green. Being aware of that fact I manage the hole to avoid such scenarios.

I do have a 4HY in the spare bag but I rarely ever swap it in as the results are average at best with it. Too high, too spinny, rarely hits the number.

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Playing a U85 at 23 degrees right now, although contemplating switching to a hybrid.

PING G400 MAX 10*, Ventus Blue 6X

Cleveland HiBore XL 2 Wood - THE GOAT

Cobra F6 Baffler 17,5*, AD DI 8S

Cobra F7 Hybrid 21.5*, AD DI 95S

Srixon ZX5mk2 5, ZX7mk2 6-PW Modus 120x

50/54/60 Cleveland RTX6 Zipcore DG Spinner

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I still carry 24* 4 iron, 21* 3 iron and 17* 2 iron and easily able to maintain my index and cover yardages to 6700yds.

  • TSR2 9.25° Ventus Velo TR Blue 58
  • TSR2 15° AD VF 74
  • T200 17 2i° Tensei AV Raw White Hybrid 90
  • T100 3i to 9i MMT 105
  • T100 PW, SM9 F52/12, M58/8, PX Wedge 6.0 120
  • SC/CA Monterey
  • DASH -ProV1x & AVX
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I've messed around with the 4i spot quite a bit over the years. Usually I end up with a "more forgiving" version of my set 4i. For example, when I was gaming Titleist 716 CB's, I put a T-MB 4i in the bag. Right now, I've put JPX919 Forged in both the 4i & 5i to go with my JPX919 Tours. I'm not sold on the Forged 5i yet, but every time I get close to buying a Tour 5i, I hit a really great shot with it just to mess with my head. I've also occasionally swapped the 4i out, and put in a Titleist 816 25* hybrid. I've found that actually gaps well as a 4i replacement. It's definitely easier to launch high, but I've just found that I'm not as accurate with a hybrid, as I am with an iron, on approach shots. I originally bought the 5 hybrid, as an experiment. The idea was to replace the 4i & 5i with the hybrid, so I could add a driving iron, and keep 4 wedges. It ended up flying too far to effectively replace my 5i though.

Titleist TSR3 9* - KBS TD 60 CAT3 | Taylormade SIM2 Max 3HL(16.5*) - VA Composites Raijin 74 four | Taylormade Sim2 Max 5w(18*) - Graphite Design Tour AD DI 7x | Srixon Z785 4-PW - KBS Tour FLT (S) | Vokey SM8 50.08F(51*), 56.12D, SM9 64.04W - DG Tour Issue S400 | Scotty Cameron Fastback

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As a 67 y.o. short knocker, I find a Ping G25 23* 4H fills the need for advancing the ball in the fairway, getting reasonable distance out of the rough, and occasionally keeping it low. Conventional wisdom says I would be better off with a high-lofted FW, but I prefer the shorter shaft and versatility of the hybrid. #<14

Cleveland Launcher HB Turbo Driver 12*, 44.5"
Cleveland Launcher XL Halo Hy-Wood Hybrid 18*

Ping G425 5 Hybrid 26*

Cleveland Launcher XL Halo 8I 34.5*

Cleveland Launcher XL Halo PW 44*

Cleveland CBX2 54*
Odyssey White Hot Pro Rossie P 33"
Ping Craz-E-Lite bag

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I went from the set 4i (Cobra 2019 CBs) at 22* with $-taper 130, to the Forged Tec 4i at 21* with the $-taper 120. At first I didn't like ANYTHING about it - turf interaction, topline, offset... but after going back to the set 4i for a couple of months my gapping was bad between the 4 and 5 (26*), so I re-switched to the Forged Tec and have gotten used to the differences, and the gapping issue has been solved.

3i/3h is another issue altogether... neither the 818 h2 nor the Gapr lo seem to be the answer so I am still on the hunt/ho.

Driver:  TSi3 10* w/ AD IZ 7X 

Fairway: TSi2 14.25* w/ AD IZ 7X 

Hybrid | Utility: TSi2 19* w/ AD IZ 95x | P790 UDI w/ KBS PGI 100

Irons: P7 Combo (790 4i, 770 5-7i, MC 8-p)

Wedges: SM7 52 F, 58 M w/ Modus 125S

Putter:  California Hollywood 34" Circle H

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I used to have a 23 degree hybrid that was my favorite club in the bag, when I would come a bit over the top and hit routine fades.

Swing change to a more straight path and I just could not keep this sucker from going left and more left.

Changed to a U510 4iron and WOW - the PERFECT club.

It now has me thinking about replacing my 19 degree hybrid with 3 iron U510.

Titleist TSi3 10* HZRDUS Black Smoke RDX
Titleist TSi2 15* HZRDUS Black Smoke RDX
Titleist TSi2 Hybrid 18* HZRDUS Black Smoke RDX
Titleist U510 21* HZRDUS Black Smoke
Titleist 718 AP1 5-GW i95 Steelfiber
Titleist SM7 52.8F - Jet Black
Titleist SM9 56.10S - Jet Black
2013 Scotty Cameron Select Newport 2 (Black Mist) - 34"
2021 Titleist ProV1

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Cobra F8 One Length 4H... I tried playing the rest of the irons & it didn't work out; but this thing's staying in my bag forever. Super easy to hit.

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Titleist TSR2 9* - Ventus TR Red 6X

Titleist TS3 4W 16.5* - T1100 Evenflow White 6.5

W/S UT 20* - HZRDUS Black RDX 6.0

Callaway Apex '19 4-PW - PX Rifle 6.0

Vokey SM9 49* - PX Rifle 6.0

Vokey SM8 54/58 - PX Rifle 6.0

SINK 1992 Custom

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I've been watching this thread, and because of YOU, I was forced to buy an Epic Forged 4 iron lol

I haven't played it yet; just into the 'ol net. It is really easy to hit and feels great! Can't wait to get out there later today and play it.

Titleist TSR3 9.25* Ventus Black TR 6x

Titleist TSR2+ 13* Speeder 757 x

Callaway Rogue ST LS 18* LIN-Q M40X Blue

Wilson DP 3h HZRDUS Smoke Red RDX 

Callaway Apex 24 MB 6 to 11 iron, MMT 105 TX

Callaway Jaws 54/58/64 KBS 130

Edel EAS 1.0 custom

Wilson Staff Model Ball

 

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^^^ same for me, the 818 H1 23* with Accra FX300H M4 shaft has been money for me.

Though I keep buying random utility clubs ( today’s buy was a Srixon U45 ) , because I want to be “that guy” who rocks the long irons, but the much better results of my 4H keep that 4i on the sidelines. As I like to say: I never argue with success

WITB for 2023  |  Titleist Hybrid-5 Stand Bag
Titleist TSi2 10*  |  Miyazaki Kusala Black 61X

Titleist TSR1 20* & 26* Hybrids  |  Evenflow White 90S

Edel SMS Pro 5-PW |  Steelfiber i110cw-S

Edel SMS GW & LW  |  Steelfiber i110cw-S

Putter  |  Mizuno OMOI-03 Nickel Finish, stock grip

Grips    |  All Clubs With CP2 Wrap Jumbo

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I have built my bag to yardages as opposed to club names or numbers. As such, I have a 3w at 16*, a 3+ hybrid at 18.5*, and a DI 3i lofted a degree weak to 22*. Then, for whatever impact dynamic reason, I go into a 30 degree "6i." The carry yardages work out to 245, 225, 205, & 185.

AI Smoke TD 9° w/HZRDUS Yellow

Epic Flash 12.5° w/Voodoo VS

'24 Apex UW 19° w/Rogue Silver

Epic Flash 20° w/VS Proto 
'19 Apex Pro 5-9 w/DG

MD2 47° & 52° + PM 1.0 58° & 64° w/DG
Odyssey White Hot 2 Ball Frankenstein (Fowler style)
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Umm...you’re welcome!

Titleist TSi2 10, Fujikura Ventus Blue Velocore 6X, 45"

Titleist TSi2 16.5, Fujikura Ventus Red Velocore 7X, 43"

TaylorMade GAPR Mid 4, KBS

Titleist T100S, KBS C-Taper S+ 5-PW

Titleist SM8, 50F, 54S, 60D, TT S400 Custom 

Scotty Cameron Phantom X12, 35", Stability Tour


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I'm playing a Callaway X Forged Utility, which does not match my Cobra irons, in place of the 4-iron.

I tried to replace it with the Cobra Utility, but the Cobra is not in the same league. It's everything I want to see in a utility - forged, smaller head for a utility, less offset, reasonable top line, can hit it from tee, fw or rough with no problems, and it actually matches up with the set fairly well.

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TaylorMade M5 10.5° /  Project X HZRDUS Smoke 60 S
Cobra King Speedzone 18.5@17° / Project X HZRDUS Smoke 70 S
TaylorMade  M3 3/19° Rescue/ Aldila NV 2KXV Blue 80H S
Callaway X Forged Utility 21°@22° /  TT Elevate 95 S

Honma T//World Rose Proto MB 5-10 / N.S. Pro Modus3 120TX
Edison 51° / DG Tour Issue X100
Mizuno T20 56° / DG Tour Issue X100
Mizuno T22 60° / DG Tour Issue S400
L.A.B. B.2 Brass/ BGT Stability Tour Black
Maxfli Tour X

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I play Mizuno mp-29's from 5-P, I have the 3 and 4 iron from the set as well, but they're so small I sometimes have issues with perfect contact. I stuck a mp-54 4 iron in that spot and it's lovely. Same loft, but with the cavity back it gets up in the air better, bigger face. It's pretty much a fli-hi compared to the 29's. Perfect for those long par 3's as I can stretch it to 230~. I have more confidence in a long iron vs hybrid off the tee as well, hybrids can get a little curvy on me depending on bulge and roll

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Hybrids are just so much easier to hit. I'm a single digit and I have hybrids up to 6 iron. That old "hook machine" canard is for most I suspect a rationalization for keeping irons in the bag that look good but don't play so well. Magical thinking comes to mind.


Driver 10.5 Taylor Made Burner 2.0
Ping 3 and 7 woods
Component 5 and 6 hybrids
and 8 and 9 irons (SGI)

Scratch 47 degree PW

Alpha SW

All graphite shafts
Putter: uh, I have a few
 

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I just changed mine up. My 6 thru 3 irons were fairly close in gaps. So I bought a used 4 and 5 iron, Taylormade CB's, and delofted the 4 to 20 and the 5 to 25 and its been perfect. I have a solid 15 yard difference and I can still hit them high enough to land and plop on a green. This gives me the ability to carry 4 wedges now.

Dr. Sim2 8° w/ RDX blue 60 6.5

3 Wood. Sim2 15° and 19° w/ Diamana 70x

Ui. Callaway x forged ut 21° w/ dg120 x100

4 to GW. Mizuno Pro 223 w/ dg120 x100

SW and Lw. 54° and 58° Milled grind raw w/ dg s200

Putter. Odyssey OG 1ws, 33 inches

Ball. Taylormade TP5x

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Really interested in ideas here in this thread - currently carry only 1 fairway wood (16*) and 1 hybrid (adjustable, currently set at 20*) but the 4 iron with my iron set is often only used for punch shots under trees. Need something more versatile for landing softly from 180-190 yards.

Ben Hogan GS53 9* with UST Helium stiff  & Ben Hogan GS53 16* with UST Helium stiff

Titleist 816 H2 21* with stiff flex Diamana S+ Blue 70  

Ping G400 irons 5-AW with steel AWT shafts

Callaway MD4 Wide sole wedges 54* & 58*

Seemore Nashville One Studio Series

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c0727a4f-92ac-4921-8f1d-ed8cb26ec87a.jpegThat use to be me with a 2-LW blade set but after experimenting, the UDI are easier to launch and I’ll take the extra ball speed.

Got the Ping G410 Crossovers in the 3 and 4 iron replacement on order.

I find UDI are the right amount of trajectory, spin and control.

I do see myself playing a hybrid down the road. They launch higher and spin more, with more anti-left hybrids available.

The loft and lie adjustable hybrids are even more practical now.

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Four iron sets, each with a 4 iron of a different loft 21-22-23-24; plus four 4 hybrids at 20.5, 22, 22, and 23. This week I’m playing a Callaway X-Forged/Apex MB combo set, and replaced my G400 4Hy with the XF 4i. This particular 4i is shafted with Steelfiber i95, where the rest of the set has Modus 120. So far it’s only been pulled for tee shots.

Spring 2024

Callaway Mavrik Max 1W 10.5° HZRDUS Smoke 60

Callaway Epic Flash SZ 3W 15° HZRDUS Smoke 70

Cobra LTDx LS 5W 17.5° HZRDUS Smoke 70

Cobra LTDx 4Hy 21° HZRDUS Smoke 80

Srixon ZU85 4U 23° / Z585 6i-7i / Z785 8i-AW

Cleveland RTX Zipcore 56° 60°
SeeMore Mini Giant DF / Piretti Teramo / MannKrafted MA99 Proto

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Playing the Z585 4i with AMT Tour White shaft, matches the rest in my bag and has become a really good club recently especially on my second shot on par5s, my friends love watching me hit this one. Right now I'm carrying this about 235 off the fairway and a hair over 240 off the tee. Don't think I'd move to a hybrid or UI in the 4i spot.

Lefty - WITB Thread

Driver: 10° Cobra LTDxLS | AD-IZ 6X 

3W: 15° Callaway Paradym X | AD-IZ 7X

3H: 19° Ping G410 | Tensei CK Pro Orange 90TX

Irons: PXG 0311P 4-6 | 0317CB 7-PW | DG 120 X100

Wedges: SM9 50° - 54° - 58° 

Putter(s): Ping PLD Anser 4K | CMD Gauge R | and more. 

Ball: TP5X 2024

Bag: Ghost Katana

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