KBS Tour V vs PX LZ vs PX vs Nippon

[SvenS3]

Hi Guys,

I play the KBS Tour V stiff Shafts at the moment. In the Winter month I tested some Shafts and went with them. 89mph 7 Iron with 170 yards carry on normal swings. Always play 0,25 to 0,5 inch longer. Cut length 7 Iron is 37,25 inch.

I like the Tour V Shafts, but sometimes I feel like they could be smoother or softer. Flex wise they are fine. Dispersion is good, too. It is just a feel that I miss.

 

Here are some Shafts I tried:

Modus 105 stiff:

They were so much softer compared to the Tour V that they feel like soft noodles. I don't hit them left or right, Dispersion was good but just the feel at impact seems a little too flimsy. From a fitting standpoint I would say they are stable enough, but it seems like the Tour V could handle more aggressive swings better.

 

X100:

Too much Shaft for me. Weight and Flex

 

PX LZ 6.0:

Nice Feeling Shaft. Good Dispersion. Only Problem are my half swings from 135 yards and in. I can't control the Shafts properly. I experienced that in the last 10 Years when Shafts are more than 115 gr. my half swing are crap. Give me under 115 gr. and I'm fine. Note: the 115 gr. is uncut Shaft weight.

 

PX 6.0 non flighted:

Again, too much Shaft for me, 5.5 isn't that better.

 

Modus 120:

Feels weird and go left all the time.

 

So I did a little research and want to hear you opinions on the following Models:

Nippon 950GH in X Flex (104 gr.) The Raw length is nearly identical to the cut length because they came in 2 inches shorter than all the other Manufactures. So near KBS Tour V cut weight.PX 5.0 non flighted because its in the 110gr. Range PX LZ 5.5 maybe hard stepped just to stay in the 115 gr. Range.Modus 105 S. I´m willing to give them a second try and maybe hardstepp them if it make them a little more stable (feel wise)Nippon 1150GH stiff. Problem could be the cut length would be over 115gr.I'm really intrigued in the 950 X Flex, but it seems like there a not much Information in the Forums about them.

 

[cw1209]

The three shafts I would try based on your list: Modus 130 R, Tour V R, and Modus 105 X. Tour V and Modus 130 have very similar bend profiles. They also play stiff to flex. R flex in Tour V and Modus 130 will play like stiff flex for most. Modus 105 plays soft to flex and has a fairly neutral/traditional bend profile. An X flex will feel closer to a standard S flex.

You don't have them listed, but I would also try Dynamic Gold 120 and 105 in the S300 flex.

[SvenS3]

Thanks for your time. I tried a bunch of the Shafts you listed, but don't want to be to long in my description.

 

Modus 105 X: Was pretty sure that this would be my Shaft. Its not. I find the X Flex much much stiffer than the S Flex. Tried them against each other. Found that I have to hit it hard to load the X Flex. Complete Opposite to the S Flex.

 

Modus 130 X: Had them in Callaway Apex MB 18. Feel was good. They launched too high in the Wind and I'm a half club short with them. Again, too much weight.

 

DG 105 S: Launched very high and distance loss in the short irons.

DG 120 S and X: It´s ok, typical DG Feel (which I like) but I always hit DG high.

 

So I'm really only interrested in the listed Shafts from the first post.

[ChipNRun]

@SvenS3, beware of letting the search for the perfect to get in the way of the very good (I'm paraphrasing Voltaire).
The Tour V stiff seem to be a good shaft for you according to performance. I played the R-flex version at one time in Nike irons.A suggestion: Keep the Tour V stiff, but have a clubsmith softstep the 4i and 5i, and maybe the 6i. This would soften the flex just a bit and help with smoother launch.
I worry that changing out to a different shaft might be a lot of hassle for minimal performance improvement.
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Caution of PX 5.0... Straight-up PX shafts are not picked because you want smooth. A 115-gram PX 5.0 flighted version came in my Callaway X20 Tours. After three seasons, I swapped them out for a lighter NS Pro 8950GH (pretty much same as NS Pro 950). The PX 5.0 was hard to handle on days I wasn't swinging that well.

[Fairways_and_Greens]

Modus 125 is a smoother version of the dynamic gold, and the super preening blue is even better if you can find them. I'd try the Modus 120 in x before you write them off.

[SvenS3]

No Safts over 115 Gr. raw length. So no Modus 125 and no Modus 120 X.

 

Softstepping 4,5,6 is a good idea.

I got the Point with the PX 5.0. Seems like they will be near 5.5 and than they are to boardy.

 

Anyone hit 950 GH in X flex against 1050 in S or Modus 105 in S ?

[Drivingrangehero]

I spun up the DG120 pretty good.

I hit XP 115’s and like them a lot, they are very similar to the Dynalite Gold XP

mid launch, mid spin for me.

114 gram in S300

117 gram in X100 I believe.

S300’s are plenty for me and my swing speed with a 7 iron is 94-95 mph

 

[Fairways_and_Greens]

Sounds like you have it figured out yourself. Good luck.

[baudi]

An alternative could be the c-taper lite in x flex soft stepped

[Jack Pearsall]

rifle fcm 5.5 flighted
 

 

[TonyK50]

@SvenS3

If you want a "smoother" feeling KBS shaft that feels like driving a Cadillac, there is nothing smoother than the $-TAPER or $-TAPER HT ("heavy-tip", lower balanced shaft version).

The $-TAPERs are way more expensive in price per shaft though.

I currently game the $-TAPER HT 120 shafts in all my irons except for the wedges.

However, in my 50*-degree gap wedge, I am presently testing out the Tour V 125 S+ wedge shaft, and it's definitely not a shaft designed to make a player feel all smooth, warm and fuzzy.

The Tour V is definitely a bit of a beast, but for a strong enough player, it also plays much like a point-and-shoot sniper rifle.

At the end of the day, it's tough to argue with good results on the scorecard.

Try the $-TAPERs in a couple of different shaft weights just to see how they feel for comparison, but unless there is some extraordinary improvement seen in the simulator numbers, stick with what already works in the Tour Vs.