2020 Big Bad Low Spin Shaft Test

[J13]

That would be great. So far i'm LOVING the RIPX and now have a 95TX coming as well for the 3 wood. It crushes spin . But that would be great and just PM me or post in my WITB thread as I don't want to hijack this thread

[gioguy21]

sounds good - either way, i'll get the info to you.

 

[TollBros]

Next addition posted. More still to come but this is the basis of it.

[TollBros]

The rest of the data will go up tonight. Block 2 for the last two players and I'll put up the high spin player. Long drive numbers will come a little later.

 

Any questions about the products, feel free to ask. And since I keep getting asked these three questions, I'll answer those now.

 

1) Yes Tour TX Tensei AV white 2.0 is available. We will have more stock in a couple weeks, availability is very low, under 200 pieces, and yes you can pre-order those now.

 

2) The secret proto is, according to the boss about 5-8 weeks from being available in any form. Even I cannot play it at the moment as exactly one exists in house. At this time, he has reconsideredand and does not want to take any orders or reveal any more info until we are sure what it's even going to be called or look like. It's going to be a fall product so let's wait until then to discuss it further.

 

3) Yes there are more additions to this thread in part 2 later this year. There are at least 3 new products that will need to be added to this list in the fall/winter.

[osubuckeyes691]

Price on the White 2.0?

[TollBros]

Second post has the summary posted.

[TollBros]

$425.

[minhjn]

Cant wait to try that AV Raw White TX

[TollBros]

Just so everyone is clear, the summary of the products are in post #2 below the data blocks.

[cheeeezzz]

Now to see if USPS will ever deliver my AV Orange. Thanks again Toll

[TollBros]

Feel free to ask any questions. This is a small sampling of the 25 guys I have data on these products on. Anyone interested in a purchase, I'm happy to look over your data and make a recommendation.

[AUGolfer32]

Is the White 2.0 the retail offering of the Tensei AV White?

[cw1209]

Love the product summaries, but am I missing the write up for the Rogue White TX?

[Philomathesq]

I didn’t notice it missing before, but I also wasn’t looking for it. I went back and checked and I don’t see it, either. So, we are both blind, or it’s not there.

[TollBros]

2.0 is the Tour version of AV White. We have them for sale, but they are not available retail.

[TollBros]

I actually did a whole thread on Rogue White TX and the rest of the line. It's under "true game changer". It was included in the test as a control and basis for comparison.

[KevCannon]

JT- always love reading the descriptions from you, and the guys in your test group. Seeing numbers is great but when you describe that player’s swing/tempo/release/ typical shot and ball flight, it really gives an amazing picture of why a certain profile either worked or didn’t work as well for that player. I, like many others, really appreciate this content and definitely have been starved for threads like this from you. A giant thank you!

[TollBros]

Thank you sir. Being candid, I would love to do a LOT more of these threads. So often in fact that you might get sick of so much data and analysis. Haha. I'd love to do irons, wedge and ball spin data and analysis that we have so much of. I'd even like to start doing feature products such as shafts that work for certain types of swings, and combos that work well together. Unfortunately, no matter how much content I add to the site, we still have to pay sponsorship fees. There's no value in adding content unless it generates sales because of this.

 

The reason we haven't been able to do as many is that it hasn't been as good of a year in internet sales as 2019, and it's hard to convince the boss to allow us to do these things when they aren't generating the sales needed to justify the time and resources spent. If every person who took value from these threads would make their purchase through us, I would be able to do these constantly and even more in-depth, but without the sales generation, I'm afraid these types of threads will be fewer and fewer. The analytics of every one of these tests and profile threads are examined and the value determined. If it's more lucrative to keep me on the range doing testing constantly, that's what happens, which describes most of 2020. There's only one way to make this a more common thing, that's the community making them more financially viable than taking in more internal product analysis jobs. Let's see how this one works out, but I'd love to shower you guys with content, but it's up to the community to make it viable.

[KevCannon]

Well good to know these type of threads aren’t boring and tedious for you at least, lol. Safe to say 2020 has been an outlier sort of year in basically every type of industry, hopefully your boss can understand that aspect. Makes sense though from a business standpoint for you guys.

[Myherobobhope]

Thanks for the content you add! I’m definitely planning on using you in the future, but my eyes are currently bigger than my wallet.

[TollBros]

No question this year isn't one any private business would like to remember. I can sincerely say I hope to never see a year that looks anything like 2020 ever again. The good thing is that testing submissions never stop as big industry keeps the cogs churning. The bad thing is that it's truly one of the greatest years for product ever, maybe THE best, and far less people are able to enjoy those products.

 

We have a full retail store with every brand, just about every shaft brand as well, and in store sales have been excellent. It's just internet sales that are down substantially. Hopefully I can start a couple regular content pieces and see if that helps. I'd sure like to continue to do that and be a sponsor here, but something has certainly got to accelerate sales the second half, no question. Anyway, enough business talk. I'll be creating a few new threads and some content I hope you guys enjoy and if it doesn't help, at least we had a great going away party. Haha

[mtg6193]

where is your retail store?

[TollBros]

The retail store is co-owned by my boss and in the state of Florida, where we used to be located. We do however sell every brand of club and most brands of high end shafts. I, however only get credit and bonus' based on internet sales so that's my department.

[nfreda2211]

Did the high spin player get posted?

[TollBros]

Monday.

[StillCantPutt]

Has anyone besides Toll hit the Tensei 2.0? Looking for other people’s reviews before pulling the trigger on essentially a whim.

[TollBros]

Brooks Koepka and Rory McIlroy.

[J13]

Can you have this Brooks and Rory post their experience? Thanks ;-)

[gioguy21]

hopefully i will be testing a 2.0 white shortly

[J13]

Love to see how things stack up with RIPX. The RIPX has been incredible and one of the most anti left shafts I've tested in a long time. Love to hear your thoughts on how they compare.