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Always played wedge flex. So s200. Going to ti s400 made a decent change in my ball flight. Much flatter. Also spinning the ball more. I'm not a low cap. Bit around 105ish swing speed with a driver. Play Px lz 6.0 in my irons

Titleist 917D3 Mitsubishi Tensei AV Raw White 65s 9.5

Cobra F9 Tour Fujikara Atmos Blue TS 7s 13.5

Cobra F6 Baffler Aldila Tour Blue 85s 17.5

Titleist 816H2 Fujikara Motore Speeder TS HB 8.8s 21

Bridgestone Tour B X-CB 4-pw PX LZ 6.0

Cleaveland Rtx4 50,56 Dynamic Gold TI S400

Maltby Ptm-4

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I go PX 7.0 in irons, X100 in wedges. Like the softer feel and increased spin on partial shots.

M5 (9.0 set to 8.25), Tensei CK Pro White 70TX, GP Tour Wrap Midsize

M5 (15.0), Tensei CK Pro White 70TX, GP Tour Wrap Midsize

TSi2 18.0, Tensei AV Raw White 85TX, -0.5", GP Tour Wrap Midsize

i200 (4i), S56 (5-W), PX 7.0, Red Dot, GP Tour Wrap Midsize

Glide 3.0 (51.13, 55.13, 60.06TS), PX 6.5 Blackout, Red Dot, GP Tour Wrap Midsize

Dual Force Rossie #1 (33", 79 lie)

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I like my wedge shaft either to be dg s300 or dg s400. They are heavy and really smooth with amazing spin control!

Taylormade M5 10.5* ProForce V2 X
Callaway Mavrik SZ 4w ProForce V2 X
Callaway Apex 3h Kuro Kage S
Mizuno MP-18 4-P Nippon SPB X
Vokey SM8 52.12F/56.14F/60.04L 1* Flat PX 6.5
Odyssey 33" White Hot Pro Rossi

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For reference I play AMT Black S300 in my 4-AW(48*) and I also play the standard S200 (should be around 127g, so comparable to your situation) wedge flex in my 52 and 58. I haven’t noticed any jarring progression going from the AW to the 52, but I rarely hit a full AW then another full 52 or 58. I wouldn’t say I’m the most discerning, but I would guess you would make out just fine.

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TM SIM Ti 3W - PX Hzrdus Smoke 6.0 70

Titleist TS2 19* 3H - PX Hzrdus Smoke 6.0 80

Titleist T300 4i & 5i - TT DG AMT Black S300

Titleist T200 6i - 48*W - TT DG AMT Black S300

Vokey SM8 52F08 & 58D12 - TT DG S200

Odyssey Triple Track  Stroke Lab Ten S

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Great stuff thank you! Really helps a lot to know that it's not a crazy difference. How do you like the lower mass in the longer irons?

Driver: Callaway Mavrik 9* ("N" setting) | Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black (6.5)

3-Wood: Callaway Epic Speed 15* | Mitsubishi Tensei AV Raw Blue (X)

2-Iron: Taylormade SIM UDI 18* | Mitsubishi Diamana Thump Graphite 90 (S)

4-PW: Titleist T200 ('19) | True Temper AMT Black (S300)

GW: Taylormade MG2 50.09* | Project X Rifle (6.0)

SW: Taylormade MG2 TW 56.12* |  Project X Rifle (6.0)

LW: Taylormade MG2 TW 60.11* | Project X Rifle (6.0)

Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Pro Platinum | Grip: Super Stroke Traxion Flatso 1.0

Ball: Callaway Chrome Soft X Triple Track

Grips: Golf Pride MCC Red (standard + 2 wraps)

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I actually get along with them quite well. Makes it easier to get a good high ball flight with the 4 and 5 in my T300’s. My tendency is to get quick and steep, so more mass in my shaft is a good thing. It helps to keep my path less erratic.

That being said, the lower mass in the long irons is something that would allow for my tendency of “too quick” to show up more easily. To overcome that, I’ve made a habit of being more mindful of my tempo on all swings, and that has helped me a ton on my ball striking this year.

AMT technology seems to really fit me well in the S300 profile. I’m loving my T200’s in 6-AW right now. I was originally fit into T300 for 4-7, but I changed to T200 in both 6 and 7. So far so good!

Callaway Mavrik 9* - Aldila Rogue White 130 MSI 60

TM SIM Ti 3W - PX Hzrdus Smoke 6.0 70

Titleist TS2 19* 3H - PX Hzrdus Smoke 6.0 80

Titleist T300 4i & 5i - TT DG AMT Black S300

Titleist T200 6i - 48*W - TT DG AMT Black S300

Vokey SM8 52F08 & 58D12 - TT DG S200

Odyssey Triple Track  Stroke Lab Ten S

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I'm a bit of a shaft who-oar but have never put much thought into wedge shafts. I buy wedges after the new model is released so I just play what comes in them. I bent my 60 around April of last year and am not even sure what shaft went in to replace the bent one but whatever it was, it was a bit heavier and a bit stiffer. I bought a new 60 in March and I have not noticed any difference with the normal wedge flex shaft compared to whatever got replaced in my old 60.

Maybe I'm being simplistic here, or maybe I just don't believe the returns are enough to shaft play in my wedges, but I feel there's no real benefit to changing the stock wedge shaft.

In the last 3 years I've gone from s300 to ctaper to $taper in my irons and have not purposefully changed wedge shafts.

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This is all great to know and glad you're hitting the ball well. Sounds like the tempo is a good swing thought for you.

I'm about to pull the trigger on T-200s. I already got my new wedges (Vokey 48 and 54, and Callaway PM19 60 - all with DG S300).

Driver: Callaway Mavrik 9* ("N" setting) | Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black (6.5)

3-Wood: Callaway Epic Speed 15* | Mitsubishi Tensei AV Raw Blue (X)

2-Iron: Taylormade SIM UDI 18* | Mitsubishi Diamana Thump Graphite 90 (S)

4-PW: Titleist T200 ('19) | True Temper AMT Black (S300)

GW: Taylormade MG2 50.09* | Project X Rifle (6.0)

SW: Taylormade MG2 TW 56.12* |  Project X Rifle (6.0)

LW: Taylormade MG2 TW 60.11* | Project X Rifle (6.0)

Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Pro Platinum | Grip: Super Stroke Traxion Flatso 1.0

Ball: Callaway Chrome Soft X Triple Track

Grips: Golf Pride MCC Red (standard + 2 wraps)

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I have PX 6.5s in my irons 4-PW. SM7s have TT DG S400. Bought SM8s with PX 6.5s 50 straight in and 54-58 soft stepped 1x. Just sold my SM8s. Thought I'd try to make it consistent throughout the bag with PX but I absolutely hated it. Love the heavier feel and lower flight the S400s give me with most wedge shots. Distance was the same with PX but total lack of feel and tougher to maintain good smooth tempo. Love PX 6.5 in my irons but S400 in the wedges is the way to go for me. Going to order SM8s with S400 here soon.

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Titleist TSi3 14.25 deg - Mitsubishi Diamana DF 80 TX

Titleist 816 H2 18.25 deg - Mitsubishi Diamana D+ 90 X

Titleist T200 4-5 - Project X 6.5

Titleist T100 6-PW - Project X 6.5

Vokey SM8 Jet Black 50.12 F, 54.10 S, 58.08 M - TT DG TI Black Onyx S400

Scotty Cameron Special Select Newport 2

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I've got kbs $ taper in my irons. I just bought some of the new Bettinardi wedges and had them put the kbs hi-rev shaft in them. Pretty happy with it all. I've tried modus but circled back to s400's in most of my previous wedge setups. If in doubt, you can't go wrong with the True Temper Dynamic Gold shaft for wedges.

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I put a 52 * Cleveland RTX4 with standard DG400 shafts in the bag , been very pleased. Its an outstanding gap wedge. Thought the DG 400's would be to heavy, but found them to have nice balance and weight for my swing.



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KBS 125's and TI S400's are available as a stock shaft in some of the new 2020 models. Both are solid options for having PX 6.5's in your irons.

Driver:  Cobra RadSpeed 10.5* @ 9.5*-Diamana Whiteboard 60X

Fairway Woods:  Cobra F9 Tour 3 wood 14.5* & 5 wood 17.5*-Diamana Whitebaord 70X

Irons:  Bridgestone J15 CB 4-PW KBS C-Taper 130X

Wedges:  Callaway Mack Daddy Forged 50*, 54*, 60*-KBS C-Taper 125S+

Putter:  Odyssey Stroke Lab #10 

Ball:  2021 Titleist Pro V1

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On 7/13/2020 at 9:07 AM, Floris said:

Project X certainly isn’t stock, but for my Mizunos there wasn’t an upcharge. I would suggest to try keep close to your swingweight, having your irons D1, but your wedges D4 might not be helpful ?

Nearly all wedges are stiff, the Wedge-shafts that Vokey uses are S300, Cleveland is S300, Callaway is S300 iirc. I think TaylorMade uses S300 too ?

I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure vokey and callaway are s200 nd I know cleveland are s400. Which is a bit strange as s300 would seemingly fit a wider range for a stock shaft. 

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On 8/29/2020 at 2:36 AM, kmck15 said:

I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure vokey and callaway are s200 nd I know cleveland are s400. Which is a bit strange as s300 would seemingly fit a wider range for a stock shaft. 

Odd, just had a bunch of shafts shaft replaced for older Ping Glides and a Vokey shaft went in, stating it is an S300. Another had a pulled Callaway put in that also is an S300. Can hardly imagine they’ve pulled custom shafts?

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TaylorMade SIM Max 3-15º | HZRDUS Smoke Green 6.5
TaylorMade SIM Max 5-18º | HZRDUS Smoke Green 6.5
Mizuno 919 Forged 4-6 (2º weak) | PX 6.0
Mizuno 919 Tour 7-P (2º weak) | PX 6.0
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On 9/4/2020 at 6:42 PM, Floris said:

Odd, just had a bunch of shafts shaft replaced for older Ping Glides and a Vokey shaft went in, stating it is an S300. Another had a pulled Callaway put in that also is an S300. Can hardly imagine they’ve pulled custom shafts?

Huh, you may be right. I just remember seeing the tour issue s200 labels on the jaws in my pro shop. Maybe companies are shifting towards s300 this year, which probably makes the most sense anyway.

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917 f3 13.5 @ 14.25- Tour AD DI 7x

TP UDI 3 iron- hzrdus handcrafted black 105x

z565 4-p- DG x100

RTX 4 51 mid, 56 mid, 60 low

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No set standard. A lot of people will go down a flex in the wedges with great success but I don’t. I play tour issue x100s and play the same in my wedges. I have tried tour issue s400 in my wedges two different times with no success. I thought it was possibly the grind of the wedge but I put my trusty x100 back in and it was back to the predictability I’m use to.

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I play project x 6.5 in the irons and found the s400 in the wedges to be too heavy (consistently hit shots fat).

 

For my 52, 56, 60, should I be thinking 6.5, 6.5, 6.0?

 

Additionally, as a sweep swinger, would I ever benefit from using a low-bounce wedge (exclusively for flops shot) but not for 60-70 yard half swings?

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