Taylormade P7MC and P770 2020

[Brooks_Cupcake]

7 minutes ago, gambit said:

For those who say the feel of the 770 is the same as the 790, I wonder if it's maybe the shaft or possibly indoor acoustics that contribute to the perceived feel?

It’s not the same - those are guys who can’t differentiate 

I’d say it feels better.

felt like it had more pop - like a spring 

[Philomathesq]

10 minutes ago, therealjonzone said:

It’s not the same - those are guys who can’t differentiate 

I’d say it feels better.

felt like it had more pop - like a spring 

I haven't hit the 770's, but I have spoken to some guys who have, and a couple of them compared the 770 feel to the PXG Gen 3 0311T. I have hit the PXG Gen 3 0311T and they feel glorious. So, there's that.

[gambit]

11 minutes ago, therealjonzone said:

It’s not the same - those are guys who can’t differentiate 

I’d say it feels better.

felt like it had more pop - like a spring 

I agree that it feels nothing like the 790 to me. Much better. If it felt like 790 I would've ordered the MCs.

[bonescu]

I did get the chance to hit all three heads at my club last Friday. Also played Gen 3 0311T for 3 weeks in June. I didn’t get the same feel as the 790 but the 770 did feel lively. But in a good way. MB was very nice but not sure right now a 5 iron out of the hey would be in my ability. To me MC was third but not a bad stick. 
 

FWIW I did order 4-P in 770 and update to the TW grind in 56/60. 

[Philomathesq]

3 minutes ago, bonescu said:

I did get the chance to hit all three heads at my club last Friday. Also played Gen 3 0311T for 3 weeks in June. I didn’t get the same feel as the 790 but the 770 did feel lively. But in a good way. MB was very nice but not sure right now a 5 iron out of the hey would be in my ability. To me MC was third but not a bad stick. 
 

FWIW I did order 4-P in 770 and update to the TW grind in 56/60. 

I mentioned just above that I've spoken to a few guys that have said the 770's feel very similar to the Gen 3 0311T's. Did the 770's feel similar to the Gen 3 0311T's to you?

[mason82]

20 minutes ago, Philomathesq said:

I haven't hit the 770's, but I have spoken to some guys who have, and a couple of them compared the 770 feel to the PXG Gen 3 0311T. I have hit the PXG Gen 3 0311T and they feel glorious. So, there's that.

i have the gen 3 0311Ts, and they feel quite a bit better than the 770 to me. 

[OspreyCI]

There ain’t no way these 770’s can even remotely feel like Gen3’s. Totally different construction. Gen3’s are amazing, but have not hit the 770’s yet. If the 770’s feel

that good... then wow. Played 790’s for a few years and did not like the feel that much. 

 

I will be deciding if they can knock out my beloved PXG 0211’s.

[Gamble Gamble]

does anyone know if TM automatically soft steps irons still?  I ordered the P770 with DG 120 X100 and wanted to know if it is SSx1 if i picked "standard tipping" 

[USGA22]

13 minutes ago, OspreyCI said:

There ain’t no way these 770’s can even remotely feel like Gen3’s. Totally different construction. Gen3’s are amazing, but have not hit the 770’s yet. If the 770’s feel

that good... then wow. Played 790’s for a few years and did not like the feel that much. 

 

I will be deciding if they can knock out my beloved PXG 0211’s.

 

I have a set of 770's on order; I have a set of Gen3's the P model; not a fan; will be selling them. Can't wait for the 770's to arrive. 

[OspreyCI]

4 minutes ago, USGA22 said:

 

I have a set of 770's on order; I have a set of Gen3's the P model; not a fan; will be selling them. Can't wait for the 770's to arrive. 

Have you hit the 770’s? If so, they must  be really good to sell the Gen3’s.

[jll62]

16 hours ago, Gamble Gamble said:

does anyone know if TM automatically soft steps irons still?  I ordered the P770 with DG 120 X100 and wanted to know if it is SSx1 if i picked "standard tipping" 

 

That is a great question and one I spent a lot of time thinking about before I submitted my order, so this response is going to be long. Bottom line is that I've seen mixed results in the past:

 

• A past order with C-Taper was correctly built. KBS uses a 37.5" shaft for both 9 and PW.
• A past order with Modus 120 was correctly built. Nippon has a 37" PW shaft and then a 37.5" 9 iron shaft.
• A buddy's order with DG X100 was correct in PW (37"), but the rest were soft stepped because TM used the 40.0" thru 37.5" shafts for 4-9. DG is supposed to be 37" for 9/PW and  39.5" thru 37.5" for 4-8.
• My stock P7TW order (DG S400) was correct in PW (37"), but the rest were soft stepped the same as the order above.
• A past order for an original P770 4 iron with DG X100 was soft stepped.

 

Based on that history, my conclusion was that TaylorMade Custom Shop builds start at 37.5" for the 9-iron regardless of the shaft picked. If the shaft uses a 37.5" shaft at 9-iron, then they're straight in. For shafts like DG, with a 37" shaft for 9/PW, then everything but the PW is going to be soft-stepped. EDIT: Thinking about this a bit more, I don't know how they'll handle other shafts that have a 36.5" PW and 37" 9 iron like Project X LZ and Steelfiber, etc. I can really only speak to the 4 shafts I have experience with. So there's clearly no single "use 37.5" for 9-iron" like I said above...at least I hope not. Maybe it's just Dynamic Gold builds that have problems.

 

I ordered $-Taper with my P770/P7MC/P7MB combo and I feel confident the Custom Shop will get it right because KBS uses 37.5" for both 9 and PW. However, I hedged my bets and ordered them at +0.5" just in case (and also because I rebuild my clubs to MOI match them, so I'm hoping they used lighter hosel weights to keep swing weight correct in a +0.5" build. That way I might not have to remove the hosel weights, which is a pain).

 

My buddy mentioned above ordered a P770/P7MC combo set with DG X100 hard stepped after he and I spent some time discussing this exact topic. If I'm right and TM effectively soft steps DG in 4-9, they'll come with the shafts installed correctly. If we got it wrong, we can soft-step his 5-8 and get a new 39.5" 4 iron shaft. Waiting to see. Thankfully, we can order grips as "do not attach" so we're not out any grips in order to see how they were installed. And we don't have to deal with the awful grip tape that seems to be used by the Custom Shop.

 

It's little things like this that frustrate me. The Custom Shop is a very nice tool, but these sort of things seem like process issues. Whomever is doing the breakdown of the builds and components doesn't seem to understand the differences between shafts and just implemented a one size fits all process. Then there is the whole other topic about not being able to request custom swing weights, driver shaft tipping, etc. It's a GREAT resource and is worlds better than the way things were back in the old days, but for people like me who care about getting their clubs built exactly to spec, it's infuriating to have these unknowns.

 

Edited August 20, 2020 by jll62

[Konklifer]

1 hour ago, therealjonzone said:

It’s not the same - those are guys who can’t differentiate 

I’d say it feels better.

felt like it had more pop - like a spring 

I can differentiate. Thanks.

[D-TRAIN]

I ordered mine early Friday morning. 770 in 4-PW +1/2” PX 6.0. Expected ship date of 9/4. Wonder who here will get their set 1st?

[Minarets]

1 hour ago, USGA22 said:

 

I have a set of 770's on order; I have a set of Gen3's the P model; not a fan; will be selling them. Can't wait for the 770's to arrive. 

So what did you like better? I have not hit the 770s yet but I'm addicted to the feel of the Gen3 0311P.   I play the gen 1 0311 currently. The Gen 3 is the best feeling "players distance iron" to me yet and i haven't felt anything close yet.  
 

 

[mjbaker80]

So....hit this lineup today with the TM rep.  Gonna go ahead and say this will be the single best selling line for TM in recent memory.  The 770 is outstanding; mixture of force and finesse.  The MC was WAAAY more playable then I’ve heard it described.  A single digit could play these too to bottom with zero issue.  The blade shocked me with how playable it was too....all were hit with DG 120 X100.

 

lastly, the UDI is insane even with the stick thump. 

This is the best range of clubs I’ve seen in years.

[BostonWRX]

Anyone know if these are new offerings?

https://www.taylormadegolf.com/Milled-Grind-Hi-Toe-Chrome-Wedge/DW-WZ733-CH.html?lang=default

[Brooks_Cupcake]

2 hours ago, Konklifer said:

I can differentiate. Thanks.

they don’t feel the same. Much better feel in the 770 when middled.

[BostonWRX]

https://www.taylormadegolf.com/Milled-Grind-Hi-Toe-Chrome-Wedge/DW-WZ733-CH.html?lang=default

these new?

[mjbaker80]

Hit these today outside with the TM rep at my club.  I don’t think it’s overstated to say this will be the best selling iron range in recent memory for TM.  I hit all three irons with an DG 120 X100.

 

770 phenomenal.  Combo of force and finesse.  Nice bit of offset but not a shovel at all.  Felt like I couldn’t miss it.  if I tried.

 

MC May steal the show.  Could not believe how friendly it was.....  soft yet great flight. It’s far from scary and I could see guys playing it 4-P that are any single digit.

 

MB shocked at how playable this was...I actually thought he handed me to MC again by accident.  I have hit plenty of clubs that made me gulp... Mizuno 919T, Titleist MBs, Miura blades.  These are WAY more approachable.  
 

The UDI was a cannon...at first I was taken aback by the offset....way more than old UDI.  Strangely though, I liked because it almost “hoods” the club a bit.  Felt like I could nuke it 240 all day without it ever getting over 50 feet high.  The stock Thump 100X was actually awesome.

 

These will sell like crazy.  There is no limit to the combo possibilities here.  The ONLY downside is that they look very different (more brushed) than the TWs I plan to blend into them.  But, small complaint.  They would look great blended into the MB.  The line all looks alike.

 

Last note, for the first time in a long time it wasn’t about “how far they go.”  These felt like true scoring tools that were built for feel, flight and hitting greens; not telling your buddy you hit your 4 iron 245.  

 

TM knocked the cover off the ball here....

 

[gambit]

The 770s must be selling like hot cakes. Playing around the TM website the 770s are now out to 10/12 while MC and MB are still 9/4.

[EricWGolf]

1 hour ago, mjbaker80 said:

The 770 is outstanding; mixture of force and finesse.  

That should have been their tag line:

 

P•770 - Force Meets Finesse 

[EricWGolf]

I saw the P•7MC in person today.  Beautiful club.  Photos don’t do it justice.

[bonescu]

6 hours ago, Philomathesq said:

I mentioned just above that I've spoken to a few guys that have said the 770's feel very similar to the Gen 3 0311T's. Did the 770's feel similar to the Gen 3 0311T's to you?

I would say similar yes. 770 felt a little hotter but numbers were in line. Trajectory was very appealing high penetrating flight

[QuigleyDU]

Hit the MCs today. They are really good in every way.

[OspreyCI]

Where is Chisag in all this? He loves his 760’s. 

[OspreyCI]

2 hours ago, gambit said:

The 770s must be selling like hot cakes. Playing around the TM website the 770s are now out to 10/12 while MC and MB are still 9/4.

Gotta ask... do they charge the CC when you order or when they ship??

[ASN21]

Just now, OspreyCI said:

Gotta ask... do they charge the CC when you order or when they ship??

When they ship

[chasemyaccord]

3 hours ago, gambit said:

The 770s must be selling like hot cakes. Playing around the TM website the 770s are now out to 10/12 while MC and MB are still 9/4.

Yeah. Fml i waited one day and lost a month. Just ordered 770 4-PW with PX LZ 6.0 a few minutes ago and expected delivery on 10/14.

 

I kind of made a mistake though. Asked for 1.5 upright but should've just kept standard as I plan on getting fitted somewhere else later. Any chance I can have the order changed after submitting? Anyone do this before? 

15 hours ago, gretzky17 said:

 

Did they hit them on a launch monitor? I highly doubt a 29* loft 6i will launch lower than a 26.5, despite the small difference in CG.

They were on the course so just visually observed. And it was a 7 iron but same loft difference. Yeah had a hard time believing it myself. But theyre both wayyyy better than I am so.....*shrug*

Edited August 20, 2020 by chasemyaccord

[GolfTurkey]

Great, just when I thought I was done ho-ing for the year, thanks TM. Must resist the 770s...

[bd59]

Man, decisions decisions!! I have no idea what to get. Was leaning MC/MB combo but I played the 2019 790 last year. I liked them but I’ve always played some sort of CB and distance control was tough and feeling off of the face was about the same for every shot.