Upgrading from MP-32s

[deanomag]

Hi , been gaming the Old mizuno Mp-32s and have to say I love them ! They have really helped my game. I’m down to a 12 hcp now. Was playing m6 irons before these so was a big change but they suited me better than the distance rocket launchers m6. Have kept the m6 for the 3 and 4 iron spots as they are very forgiving.

but now I’m looking for something in the middle a players cavity maybe don’t want strong lofts or distances as really like the mp32 set up loft offset bounce etc but with a touch more forgiveness as on a bad round I can still shoot in the low 90s.

best match with all the above to mp32 doesn’t have to be mizuno either.??

also would rather buy second hand so clubs that are at least a couple of years old as don’t want to pay £600 again like I did for the m6.

[braincramp52]

Ping I200,I210's, S55's

Callaway X forged

Titleist AP2's, just to name a few.

[hagimihale]

I love the 32s - they are my backup set.

Newer Mizuno options (oldest to newest), but excluding the MP-20 range since you don't want to spent a boatload on new(er) clubs.

MP-53 (2011)

JPX 825 Pro (2013)

MP-54 (2014)

JPX 850 Forged (2015)

JPX 900 Forged (2017)

MP-18 MMC (2018)

JPX 919 Forged or Tour (2019)

 

[kufdam]

Love my 32s but for newer stuff what about a mixed set of mp18 (Mmc In long irons and mb in scoring clubs).

[GaHack1]

I played my 32's until they were pretty worn..15 years. Bought some new MP59's on ebay last year. Thinking about sending the 32's to have them refinished. Not sure what would be an "upgrade" to the 32's.

[bevans0222]

I would suggest Z785's. I loved my MP-32's, and still have them(both sets). I'm playing Z785's right now, and think that you would find them to be a similar size, with a little more forgiveness. With the new Z series being launched, you'll probably be able to start finding used sets of Z785's at a decent price.

[llewol007]

I played mp32' and for me the callaway mb's feel good. Not the shiny chrome one but more the satin finish from about 5 years ago. I would also give the Taylor made 2014 mb's a try. I absolutely loved them when they were in the rotation. Other than than, the new mizuno 900's are good as well. Those three with probably honorable mention for the cobra Mc/Mb combos.

[deanomag]

Any cavity players irons that are as close to the 32s in bounce and offset would be perfect !???

[Hobbs]

The Mizuno MP-18 SC are similar in bounce and lofts (1* stronger in the shorter irons). MP-18 SC's off-set a touch less. I came from playing MP-14 and it did not take much time, if any, to get comfortable with them. I'm trying out a set of T100 irons now to see if they can knock out the Mizunos.

[deanomag]

Yeah I fancy gaming some cavity backs again but don’t want strong lofts or distance clubs are there even any players cavity’s besides titleist ??

[QuigleyDU]

If you have been playing MP32's for this long, you will be disappointed where ever you go...

[Rory4Pres]

You're talking my language buddy. I've used mp32's and mp64's for some time now. Very happy with both. Definitely recommend the mp64's if you like the 32's. don't look a whole lot different at address, very solid, look incredible for years and years of use. Just remember the right shaft is key. best of luck in your search.

[Rory4Pres]

oh and for what it's worth, my mp32's have rifle 6.0's in them, I have ctaper 120 stiff in the mp64's. Both do very well for me. If your mp32's have S300 shafts, you'll easily be able to find mp64's with s300 since that's the most popular shaft.

[deanomag]

S300 will be my shaft in whatever I game, best shaft I’ve hit for accuracy.

[Cachaulo]

Went from MP-32s to MP-53s to Ping i210s with retro lofts....all sets are great but I cant believe how forgiving the Pings are, I'm still in the honeymoon period but shooting best scores in a long time.

[deanomag]

So thinking either Mp53 or z745s would either of these offer any more forgiveness ? The Mp32 are actually quite forgiving but in the especially in wet winter they need a pretty good contact or your punished.

[Nick_E]

I would definitely go with jpx 900 forged if you're looking for a great set, but looking to save some money.  I have the mp 32s, but honestly even at a 2 I prefer some help.  I have the jpx 919 forged now.   Wow, what an amazing club.  Another good option is ping i20s.  They're also an amazing set, and you can find a really nice set at a good price.  S55s are another really good option. 

Edited November 23, 2020 by Nick_E

[deanomag]

I tried the ping s55s did not get on with them at all, they felt awful very clicky. My only worry with the Jpx line is aren’t they a bit clunky and big ? 

 

do the mp53 /54 or srixon z745 offer much more than the mp32s ?? 
 

 

[joostin]

3 hours ago, deanomag said:

I tried the ping s55s did not get on with them at all, they felt awful very clicky. My only worry with the Jpx line is aren’t they a bit clunky and big ? 

 

do the mp53 /54 or srixon z745 offer much more than the mp32s ?? 
 

 

Lookup Maltby MPF ratings for each club (6 iron): Mizuno attached MPF_MIZUNO (1).pdf.  For MOI, indicating heel to toe "forgiveness", it shows from lowest to highest:  mp32 - z745 - mp54 - mp53.  For Actual VCOG, the lower the number the "easier" it is to get in the air (though I haven't really been able to tell) :  the Mizunos are pretty close to each other, but z745 is noticably higher.  As always YMMV, but just looking at the numbers and considering what you're looking for, mp53 may be best.

 

I can only say I love my 54s, but have never hit the others, though I do bag a z545 3 iron.  I don't find them lacking in forgiveness, with most misses being thin, sometimes toe side.  I'm a mostly shallow divot digger, sometimes pick but sometimes dig medium divots with short irons, and sole camber and leading edge are great for me.  FWIW I tried to like JPX 850 Forged, but the feel for me was not good compared to mp54.

Edited November 23, 2020 by joostin

[hagimihale]

I am gaming MP-54s, having upgraded from JPX 825 Pro.  Love them, they aren't going anywhere.

 

I concur with @joostin  regarding the MPF ratings between MP-32, MP-53 and MP-54.   

 

My backup set are 32s.  The 54s are more forgiving and easier to get airborne, and the 53s even more so.   

 

I think the 54s are closer to a muscle-back, especially in the short irons.  They feel solid and dense when struck well.  The 53s feel hotter off the face and appeared to launch higher.

 

Also, @joostin noted how the feel of the JPX 850 Forged didnt feel the same as the 54s.  I think that's because (starting with the 850 Forged), Mizuno started putting Boron in their irons.  Boron is a harder metal.  It allowed Mizzy to use thinner/hotter faces without changing weight or compromising structural integrity. But the newer irons have not felt as good as my 54s, which is why I have not upgraded either.

 

 

[Volgolfer]

Have the 32's (as well as 60's and 59's) and switched to the Srixon 585/785's two years ago.  Really love the feel and forgiveness.  Suggest you give them a whirl.... 

[Ripken08]

I've had 32s,53s,59s,15s, etc.  You want MP20 MMCs.  On this list they'd be in second place behind the 32s.  They have it all and are more forgiving.

Edited November 25, 2020 by Ripken08

[bnperrone]

MP20 MMCs and you can absolutely bend them to the loft specs you're looking for.

[deanomag]

Ended up going with the Mp-54s! Not sure if the head is lighter compared to mp32s or grip is heavier making them feel lighter but same shaft s300 but they feel a bit lighter and easier to swing. They also look very slightly more upright than 32s but all things said I was very impressed today especially with the longer irons ! They are super forgiving compared to 32s I didn’t notice much loss in feel in the shorter irons either maybe a tiny bit on a flushed shot but nothing to put me off. They are easier to keep online too with the 32s being a lot easier to work both ways but for most golfers I would say it’s a massive improvement unless you pure 90 percent of shots these make a lot of sense .. keeping most the feel and big leap in forgiveness. 
they do launch a touch higher but playing in England is not a problem at all especially in winter.

 

i started with custom fit taylormade m6 irons - hated them ..

went to mp32s for more control - great clubs but definitely not much help for 12 hcp but improved my striking.

Then onto these mp54s - wow forgiving and still with the control and feel of the norm Mp line. I’d say anyone from low handicap to 15 can game these ! Great sticks 

Edited December 1, 2020 by deanomag

[hagimihale]

Great choice. The undercut channel on the long irons (3-7) helps with shots low on the face, as you've probably already found out.  

 

I am still gaming 54s.  I've hit every iteration up through the MP20 line, but nothing has knocked these out of my bag. 

 

 

Edited December 1, 2020 by hagimihale

[deanomag]

Yeah I agree ,they are everything I want from a club. Not to hot off the face, so still control. But also not as punishing as a lot of other clubs in this range. 
 

Did you find them slightly lighter ??

[hagimihale]

No, but I was coming from JPX 825 Pro when I put the 54s in my bag, and the head weights are almost identical.

 

The 32s are lighter according to the Maltby specs (https://www.golfworks.com/images/art/MPF_MIZUNO.pdf).  6i comes in at 254 grams for the MP32 vs 260 grams for the MP54.

 

I wonder if the perception in weight difference is due to shafts.  Are you playing the same shafts in both sets?

 

I have X100s in my 54s.  Rifle 6.5s in my 32s.   And they definitely feel different.  I prefer the X100s, but that's what was also in my 825 Pros.

[cardoustie]

919t 

[lefty1978]

I own both the 32s and 54s, both great irons and would have no problems throwing either in my bag tomorrow. The 54s are easily as forgiving as my JPX 919F, similar design. Both my 32s and 54s have dg s300 shafts, the 54s are heavier swingweighting at D4 and the 32s at D2.5.

[ranesy]

I recently switched from MP-32's to the MP-67's. The transition was smooth and the 67's are amazing, the feel is close to or even slightly better vs the 32's. By the way, I use the Projex X 6.0 flighted shafts in both.

 

Another set worth considering are the Bridgestone cavity backs, I have the j33's as my backup set and they too are terrific. They have a bit 'click' feel as compared to the Mizuno's