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The top line heft is invisible in the playing position, though.  I honestly don't care what they look like in the bag, if the high gc means lower flight with higher more consistent spin, and shorter p

Didn’t get to play but got to hit some short pitches and chips. I can’t say that I can feel a huge difference nor could I see one. I did seem to be more consistent with the ES. The grind seemed to fit

love the color scheme, but man, those are chunky monkeys.

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2 minutes ago, OrangeGravy said:

How is it different than any other wedge that's moved weight out/up to the toe or manipulated weight to move CG? 

They way that they did it. It is a hollow,multi piece wedge.  But, it is not meant to be nor will it play as something that is a higher handicap or distance wedge.

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Picked a 58/08 up today. It looks good to me. Just have to see how it performs

 

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27 minutes ago, Yzmerf said:

Picked a 58/08 up today. It looks good to me. Just have to see how it performs

 

Nice! Neither local retailer had any on the shelves in Louisville... was really hoping to see them.

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21 hours ago, Yzmerf said:

Picked a 58/08 up today. It looks good to me. Just have to see how it performs

 

 

Post your thoughts once you've had some time with it!

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Hopefully tomorrow.

 

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40 minutes ago, Yzmerf said:

Hopefully tomorrow.

 

Looking forward to your feedback.  Especially ball flight compared to your T20.

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Didn’t get to play but got to hit some short pitches and chips. I can’t say that I can feel a huge difference nor could I see one. I did seem to be more consistent with the ES. The grind seemed to fit me better.  I have a track man session tomorrow night so we will see which has better numbers. Here’s some comparison pics. FYI the ES definitely has a higher toe, room for one more scoring line. I’m really liking the Lamkin grip though

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Glad to hear there is not much difference in feel.  I have been a bit concerned that there would be a hollow feel.  Is that the wide or standard sole?  Keep your impressions coming.  Cheers

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5 minutes ago, thigos said:

Glad to hear there is not much difference in feel.  I have been a bit concerned that there would be a hollow feel.  Is that the wide or standard sole?  Keep your impressions coming.  Cheers

To be blunt Im not even positive. It seemed narrower than the other 58 they had in stock. I will say it did feel a touch harder if you hit it a few grooves low. Not enough to make ad difference for me

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On 10/1/2020 at 9:01 PM, Yzmerf said:

Didn’t get to play but got to hit some short pitches and chips. I can’t say that I can feel a huge difference nor could I see one. I did seem to be more consistent with the ES. The grind seemed to fit me better.  I have a track man session tomorrow night so we will see which has better numbers. Here’s some comparison pics. FYI the ES definitely has a higher toe, room for one more scoring line. I’m really liking the Lamkin grip though

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Yep

 

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Trackman today and unfortunately the wedge part of the session didnt save. I will say it seemed to launch a touch lower even though its 1 degree more loft. My 56 is bent to 57. Still need to hit some full shots on the course to make a final decision. 

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6 hours ago, TonytheTiger said:

They look amazing but that sole is FATTTTT, come on man, how am I supposed to nip those dead tight lies, with a 2 degree bounce wedge?!?!?! Beautiful club though and I understand people need the help. Mizuno always does well.

Never really understood this argument.  The only way a wedge doesn't work off tight lies is if the leading edge is completely rounded/blunted or the sole of the wedge is high off the ground when the wedge is squared up to the target line.  Doesn't matter how far back the sole goes if the leading edge stays close to the ground.  And with '2 degrees of bounce', it shouldn't be a problem.

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22 minutes ago, wcbjr said:

Never really understood this argument.  The only way a wedge doesn't work off tight lies is if the leading edge is completely rounded/blunted or the sole of the wedge is high off the ground when the wedge is squared up to the target line.  Doesn't matter how far back the sole goes if the leading edge stays close to the ground.  And with '2 degrees of bounce', it shouldn't be a problem.

I'd have to show you in person, but you are right the general idea of mine was just a joke!

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Still waiting on mine to be shipped.  TXG reviewed them - they seem uncharacteristically disinterested.  Refer to the es21 as a 10-20 hcap wedge comparable to the CBX2 wedge.  

 

 

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I really like this wedge. It is pretty awesome. 

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I liked it but nothing about it stood out. The Zipcore's are much more impressive. That said, I grabbed a couple of Glide Forged on the cheap and am kicking myself for not going with them sooner. They are so good.

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57 minutes ago, QuigleyDU said:

I really like this wedge. It is pretty awesome. 

How is the launch compared to Zip Core?

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7 minutes ago, getair23 said:

How is the launch compared to Zip Core?

Similar, I would call them the same. I really enjoyed the feel of the es21 and the shape is great to my eye.

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