Graphite Design AD TP - Still Using?

[OspreyCI]

I have used (in multiple drivers) the Graphite Design AD DI, IZ, and VR. One shaft I have not tried and keep reading about is the AD TP. The profile seems like something I could get along with. 
 

My favorite from feel and performance best to worst:

AD, IZ, VR

What about the TP? Read all reviews. Wanted to start a new thread. 

[OspreyCI]

Anyone?

[jvincent]

I have played the TP in my driver and 4W for the last two seasons. For me it has been a great shaft. Solid feel, mid-launch.

 

Full disclosure, I'm giving the new Rogue Silver 110 a tryout right now. Not because I don't like the TP, but because I have a problem.

 

 

[cw1209]

I have the AD TP in my 3 wood and as a backup for my driver. Really good shaft. By most accounts it provides a similar feel to AD DI, but tighter and lower spin. Not a totally different shaft than the Smoke Yellow in your driver. Definitely a firmer handle than AD DI, but still retains some of the loading feel and kick through impact. No longer in my driver because I wanted something with a little firmer midsection, more one piece feel, that I could turn over a little easier.  AD TP is still relevant and one of the most underrated shafts out there. I would encourage almost anyone looking at the AD DI to skip the DI and buy the TP instead. 

Edited August 19, 2020 by cw1209

[OspreyCI]

10 minutes ago, cw1209 said:

I have the AD TP in my 3 wood and as a backup for my driver. Really good shaft. By most accounts it provides a similar feel to AD DI, but tighter and lower spin. Not a totally different shaft than the Smoke Yellow in your driver. Definitely a firmer handle than AD DI, but still retains some of the loading feel and kick through impact. No longer in my driver because I wanted something with a little firmer midsection, more one piece feel, that I could turn over a little easier.  AD TP is still relevant and one of the most underrated shafts out there. I would encourage almost anyone looking at the AD DI to skip the DI and buy the TP instead. 

Good stuff. The DI is special, but can get away from me in the driver. The TP being a little tighter and lower spin seems like money.
 

The Smoke is just ok, it has been a filler. Thinking about putting a AD TP in a PXG Proto 0811x+. Too bad PXG doesn’t have them to demo when I get fit. 
 

 

[Poolparty]

I agree w CW. TP is a great shaft -- maybe the best GD. I don't think it's an updated AD DI, it's more like a AD DI that's into power-lifting. It's certainly tighter. I'm in between an AD DI 8x and a AD TP 8s in my 3 wood. I'd be happy w either but a TP 8x would be too much.

[toddmanley]

I was fitted into the TP about a year ago with my TS3 15* 3-wood.  Playing the 70g x-flex and have had really good results - I'd like to try the 80g version just for kicks but haven't seen any good deals floating around.  When I'm putting a good swing on this combo (SS with this club is around 107mph) I'm consistently getting mid-launch and low spin bombs landing around 250 and rolling out another 10-15 yards.  It's been fun putting this club into play more the last 3 weeks as I've not hit my old driver (I'm waiting for a new TM SIM from my club fitter).  Last point, for me the shaft really responds well to a smooth swing - I don't have an aggressive transition and love how this shaft just feels right.

[Hougz79]

I switch between the IZ-7X and the TP-7X in my MAV SZ.  I really like it.  I need a "Goldielocks" shaft between them.... the IZ is just a bit too much launch/spin; and the TP is just a bit too low.  My best drives have come with the TP, but the IZ is a bit more friendly to get around the course with for me.

 

I would agree the TP has a great feel one-piece feel.  I have gamed the TP, IZ, Rogue White 130, HZRDUS Smoke Yellow, and EF White T1100 in the past couple years.  The TP 100% is still a valid shaft.  I think it gets lost in the shuffle do to other similar profiles from other brands; but it's still a primo choice.  

[OspreyCI]

7 minutes ago, Hougz79 said:

I switch between the IZ-7X and the TP-7X in my MAV SZ.  I really like it.  I need a "Goldielocks" shaft between them.... the IZ is just a bit too much launch/spin; and the TP is just a bit too low.  My best drives have come with the TP, but the IZ is a bit more friendly to get around the course with for me.

 

I would agree the TP has a great feel one-piece feel.  I have gamed the TP, IZ, Rogue White 130, HZRDUS Smoke Yellow, and EF White T1100 in the past couple years.  The TP 100% is still a valid shaft.  I think it gets lost in the shuffle do to other similar profiles from other brands; but it's still a primo choice.  

Thanks. How would you compare the TP to the Smoke Yellow?

[mokedaddy]

19 minutes ago, Hougz79 said:

I switch between the IZ-7X and the TP-7X in my MAV SZ.  I really like it.  I need a "Goldielocks" shaft between them.... the IZ is just a bit too much launch/spin; and the TP is just a bit too low.  My best drives have come with the TP, but the IZ is a bit more friendly to get around the course with for me.

 

I would agree the TP has a great feel one-piece feel.  I have gamed the TP, IZ, Rogue White 130, HZRDUS Smoke Yellow, and EF White T1100 in the past couple years.  The TP 100% is still a valid shaft.  I think it gets lost in the shuffle do to other similar profiles from other brands; but it's still a primo choice.  

The vr is right between the tp and the iz.  To me the shaft that feels most like the tp is the vr.

[OspreyCI]

Would the VR spin more than the TP? I used the VR for a few rounds and it was pretty good. I just like a tad more feel or kick. 

[mokedaddy]

5 minutes ago, OspreyCI said:

Would the VR spin more than the TP? I used the VR for a few rounds and it was pretty good. I just like a tad more feel or kick. 

The vr and the tp both feature their fast taper technology which in my opinion makes he mid section feel stiffer than it is and honesty neither one of them really kick much to me.  The xc I just started playing actually has the di feel but the kick is a little higher in the handle.  TBD if it stays in the bag.  I may go back to the vr in driver to.

 

Yeah the vr should spin a little more but I’m not sure how noticeable it will be.

Edited August 19, 2020 by mokedaddy

[Hougz79]

5 hours ago, OspreyCI said:

Thanks. How would you compare the TP to the Smoke Yellow?

Different heads so it’s a bit hard to compare.  I had the Smoke Yellow in a TS3 and the TP in a MAV SZ.   I did find the Smoke Yellow to be pretty high launching compared to what I was used to, but was getting acceptable spin numbers.  Honestly I didn’t get along too well with the counterbalancing of the Smoke Yellow, so it only lasted a month before getting kicked from the bag.

[MysteryV]

I have AD-DI in my hybrid, 3, and 5 woods.  AD-VR 6s in a Ping G400 Max.  AD-TP 6s in a Mavrik SZ-3D.  AD-IZ 7x in a SIM Max.

The IZ feels the most stable to me, however it's a full flex stiffer and 10g heavier.

The DIs are smooth and just work so well, however I've never tried them in a driver.

The VR lacks feel for me for some reason (likely the head).  It's also a bit shorter (maybe 44.75 versus 45.25)

The TP is solid, but seems to launch extremely high and is tough to turn over for me.

 

Part of the issue may be that 6s is a bit too soft for me these days, but I'm heading to club champion next month to figure that all out.  May well be selling all of these driver setups soon (along with a Tensei PO 6s for the G400, Ventus Black 7s TM tip, Ventus Blue 6s for TM (special gold New Years Edition for the TM, and Ventus Blue 6s for Cally.

 

Did someone mention they had a problem?

[OspreyCI]

25 minutes ago, MysteryV said:

I have AD-DI in my hybrid, 3, and 5 woods.  AD-VR 6s in a Ping G400 Max.  AD-TP 6s in a Mavrik SZ-3D.  AD-IZ 7x in a SIM Max.

The IZ feels the most stable to me, however it's a full flex stiffer and 10g heavier.

The DIs are smooth and just work so well, however I've never tried them in a driver.

The VR lacks feel for me for some reason (likely the head).  It's also a bit shorter (maybe 44.75 versus 45.25)

The TP is solid, but seems to launch extremely high and is tough to turn over for me.

 

Part of the issue may be that 6s is a bit too soft for me these days, but I'm heading to club champion next month to figure that all out.  May well be selling all of these driver setups soon (along with a Tensei PO 6s for the G400, Ventus Black 7s TM tip, Ventus Blue 6s for TM (special gold New Years Edition for the TM, and Ventus Blue 6s for Cally.

 

Did someone mention they had a problem?

Oh man! GolfWrxer of the year! You are 2020 when it comes owning GD shafts. Haha. Good stuff. 
 

TP still sounds good to me. VR didn’t like much after all. IZ was pretty good. DI is amazing in my 3 wood. TP could be money in a low launch,

low spin head. 

[drbonesvt]

Ad tp TX only thing that gives my ventus black a run for its money - and it might be bc the heavier weight in the ad tp tx 

 

ventus blk 6x and red 9x vs ad tp 70tx and ad di 90x 

[OspreyCI]

What MRC shaft is most like the AD TP? 
 

Asking for a friend 🤔

Edited January 25, 2021 by OspreyCI

[drbonesvt]

1 hour ago, OspreyCI said:

What MRC shaft is most like the AD TP? 
 

Asking for a friend 🤔

Just my opinion 

 

hybrid of Pro white tx and KK XD Tx

 

most impressed with launch med , and lower spin of the TP

[cw1209]

4 hours ago, OspreyCI said:

What MRC shaft is most like the AD TP? 
 

Asking for a friend 🤔

 

Mitsubishi Diamana BF or TB. Most of the Tour AD products follow a soft mid "Blue" profile. The feel in the hands will vary from shaft to shaft. The Tour AD magic is their ability to make a bunch of subtle variations to the same general shaft profile. 

[OspreyCI]

4 minutes ago, cw1209 said:

 

Mitsubishi Diamana BF or TB. Most of the Tour AD products follow a soft mid "Blue" profile. The feel in the hands will vary from shaft to shaft. The Tour AD magic is their ability to make a bunch of subtle variations to the same general shaft profile. 

Thanks. ZF not close?

[cw1209]

I don't have EI profile data on that shaft. From what i see on the Mitsu website, I would definitely add the ZF to a short list for comparison to the TP. On paper the "mid launch low spin" description seems like a good match. Just don't have any experience with the ZF shaft. Based on a few reviews i have read, it seems like people describe the shaft as having a "hinge" in the middle with a lot of kick. Even with profile matches, two shafts can feel very different during the swing. 

[KevCannon]

I am wondering how the new AD HD compares to the TP for anyone who has hit both. On paper the descriptions seem close, with TP probly having a slightly stiffer tip.

[OspreyCI]

2 minutes ago, KevCannon said:

I am wondering how the new AD HD compares to the TP for anyone who has hit both. On paper the descriptions seem close, with TP probly having a slightly stiffer tip.

Would like to know also. I see the same thing as you. Maybe the HD is easier to turn over? 

[mokedaddy]

The hd spins a little more.  Launch is very similar.  TP has a slightly stiffer feel.

Edited January 25, 2021 by mokedaddy

[hypergolf]

I am currently using TP in my driver and DI in my fairway woods.

 

I think TP is a perfect for a driver (or even fairway) if you are looking for lower launch/spin compared to DI.

 

You can feel the TP kick but doesn't kick as much as the DI.

 

Very stable and accurate (like most Graphite Design shafts) and have had no issues with this shaft at all. 

 

Also I feel more of the swing energy is transferred to the ball when struck as I have gained distance compared to my previous stock Tensei AV Blue.

[KevCannon]

2 hours ago, hypergolf said:

I am currently using TP in my driver and DI in my fairway woods.

 

I think TP is a perfect for a driver (or even fairway) if you are looking for lower launch/spin compared to DI.

 

You can feel the TP kick but doesn't kick as much as the DI.

 

Very stable and accurate (like most Graphite Design shafts) and have had no issues with this shaft at all. 

 

Also I feel more of the swing energy is transferred to the ball when struck as I have gained distance compared to my previous stock Tensei AV Blue.

That accelerated energy through the ball is really what makes the TP so good. That was GD’s first shaft to have “accelerated taper rate”, on the TP the accelerated taper is from the mid section down to the upper portion of the tip. I think that’s the reason GD chose that part of the shaft, as it does seem to create a little faster ball speed more frequently. Fujikura did this with the Ventus shafts, but the accelerated taper starts just below the butt section.

[KevCannon]

3 hours ago, OspreyCI said:

Would like to know also. I see the same thing as you. Maybe the HD is easier to turn over? 

From what i have heard, the HD has a more linear (one piece) feel more similar to the IZ. But launch is in a similar window to the TP according to a couple people that have hit the HD. Looking at the specs I am curious on how it feels, because i have hit TP (still my 3 wood shaft and back up driver), and briefly tried the IZ. 

[KevCannon]

2 hours ago, mokedaddy said:

The hd spins a little more.  Launch is very similar.  TP has a slightly stiffer feel.

TP has a stiffer butt section than most people realize, but has that noticeable kick feeling. Does HD have that same kick through impact, or does it feel closer to an IZ?

[Radeon962]

I don’t believe the TP is similar at all to the DI.

 

DI is more similar to the IZ.

 

Found the chart below and the TP is similar to the HD.

 

Edited January 26, 2021 by Radeon962

[mokedaddy]

1 hour ago, KevCannon said:

TP has a stiffer butt section than most people realize, but has that noticeable kick feeling. Does HD have that same kick through impact, or does it feel closer to an IZ?

It has the same fast taper technology as the tp which is what gives it the firmer feeling.  The three ftt shafts in the GD lineup all feel similar which is why I play them.  HD in driver, TP in the 3 wood, and VR in my 5 wood.

Edited January 26, 2021 by mokedaddy