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29 minutes ago, GBBM said:

I think this is normally what Titleist does and that’s fine but it seems like with the multitude of special circumstances of 2020 that if they’d have gotten these out even a month sooner they’d have locked in a lot of business from people who don’t want to wait until winter or spring and still had a fair amount of season left.
 

By the time these come out the northern half of the US is basically done with golf until spring and by then everyone else will have their new stuff out. 

 

If they’re truly that good it may not matter but they’ll lose off the rack sales to other companies next spring because they’ll have the newer fresher marketing and online testing. 

It's a big complaint from club builders and golf stores they can only get limited stock of equipment since this covid situation developed so it was always 

going to be hard for Titleist to launch a new product with everything that has happened .

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A guy goes to a Titleist fitting at their facility, gets fit into a stick by their expert. Goes home and changes the driver settings quite a bit (9.75* to 8.25*). He says he is hitting quality shots h

Not sure if this has been posted yet but the TSi4 has been released on the conforming list    

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So how does everyone think these will fare against the TS3?


I still use a 909D2 with a Diamana Blue 65 R that I've learned to hit pretty well even though the shaft is too flexible for my swing speed (average driving distance may be around 270y)

Ended up trying the TS3 in a Demo Day last year but as there is a scarcity of good fitting sessions in my country the shaft suggestion (in a non optimal condition and without a launch monitor) was a Tensei Blue 60 Stiff.

So now I'm thinking about buying the TS3 with the Tensei Blue 60 S with the online clearance prices vs. waiting for a good fitting session on the TSi and risk ending up in the same situation I am now.

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14 hours ago, GBBM said:

I think this is normally what Titleist does and that’s fine but it seems like with the multitude of special circumstances of 2020 that if they’d have gotten these out even a month sooner they’d have locked in a lot of business from people who don’t want to wait until winter or spring and still had a fair amount of season left.
 

By the time these come out the northern half of the US is basically done with golf until spring and by then everyone else will have their new stuff out. 

 

If they’re truly that good it may not matter but they’ll lose off the rack sales to other companies next spring because they’ll have the newer fresher marketing and online testing. 

I don’t know, I like the idea of practicing indoors all winter with a new driver rather than waiting for spring launches. 

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If this has been asked already I'm sorry. Will Titleist release TSi hybrids with the woods or will they come with new irons next year?

 

PXG 0811X Proto 9* Tour AD GP 7 
PXG 0341X Gen 2 15* Tour AD GT 8
PXG 0317X Gen 2 19* Tour AD DI 85
PXG 0311XF Gen 1 4 Steelfiber i110
PXG 0311 5-GW Gen 1 Steelfiber i110
PXG 0311 54* Steelfiber i110
PXG Sugar Daddy 60* Steelfiber FC115
PXG Dagger 34"
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18 minutes ago, Aces-6 said:

If this has been asked already I'm sorry. Will Titleist release TSi hybrids with the woods or will they come with new irons next year?

 

The hybrids are expected to continue to follow along with new iron-releases.  

TSi3/9/Ventus Blue 6
TSi2/15/Ventus Blue 7
TS2/19/AD-IZ 85
U500 4/PX EF White 100H
T100 5-9/PX LZ
SM8 Raw 46.10F-52.8F-56.8M-60T/PX LZ

SC NP2 Tour CT Custom
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As said before by someone else in here I was told October 15 when embargo is lifted.  I was told fitters can place orders beforehand but my fitter won't have demos until 10/12 or so.  

Driver: PXG 0811x 9* Fujikura Speeder 661 Evolution IV 
Irons: Mizuno 921 Forged 4-PW, Recoils 95 F4*
Hybrids: PXG 0317X 19*
Wedges: Ping Glide 3.0 50*, 54*, 60*
Putter: Ping Vault 2.0 Ketcsh (solid black)  
Bag: Mizuno K1-LO white/staff blue (something new is coming, cant decide.)
Ball: Titleist Pro V1, Snell MTB-X, Maxfli Tour

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9 minutes ago, Minarets said:

As said before by someone else in here I was told October 15 when embargo is lifted.  I was told fitters can place orders beforehand but my fitter won't have demos until 10/12 or so.  

True. I placed an order last week when the rep came through the shop and I was able t hit them.

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Titleist TSi3 - 9* - Tour AD IZ
Titleist TSi3 - 15* - Tour AD IZ
Titleist TS3 Hybrid - Even Flow
Titleist U500 - 4 iron, DG Tour Issue X-100
Titleist T100s 5-9, DG Tour Issue X-100
Titleist Vokey SM8 RAW - 46*, 50*, 56*, 60*, DG Tour Issue X-100 & S-400
Scotty Cameron 009 

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1 hour ago, Carson33 said:

True. I placed an order last week when the rep came through the shop and I was able t hit them.

How was it? Which one did you go with? What were you playing before hand? What shaft? I have lots of questions.How was it? Which one did you go with? What were you playing before hand? What shaft? I have lots of questions.

Driver: PXG 0811x 9* Fujikura Speeder 661 Evolution IV 
Irons: Mizuno 921 Forged 4-PW, Recoils 95 F4*
Hybrids: PXG 0317X 19*
Wedges: Ping Glide 3.0 50*, 54*, 60*
Putter: Ping Vault 2.0 Ketcsh (solid black)  
Bag: Mizuno K1-LO white/staff blue (something new is coming, cant decide.)
Ball: Titleist Pro V1, Snell MTB-X, Maxfli Tour

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4 hours ago, Jbigda said:

I don’t know, I like the idea of practicing indoors all winter with a new driver rather than waiting for spring launches. 

Yeah I don’t get his argument. Seems like there’s more benefit from getting something out before Christmas. I doubt it hurts competitiveness in March just because it’s been out for 5 months. Probably helps if anything 

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20 hours ago, Stinks said:

So how does everyone think these will fare against the TS3?


I still use a 909D2 with a Diamana Blue 65 R that I've learned to hit pretty well even though the shaft is too flexible for my swing speed (average driving distance may be around 270y)

Ended up trying the TS3 in a Demo Day last year but as there is a scarcity of good fitting sessions in my country the shaft suggestion (in a non optimal condition and without a launch monitor) was a Tensei Blue 60 Stiff.

So now I'm thinking about buying the TS3 with the Tensei Blue 60 S with the online clearance prices vs. waiting for a good fitting session on the TSi and risk ending up in the same situation I am now.


This is just speculation, but it is a pretty common pattern with several companies to have a lower spin, bomber type of driver that then gets iterated on to increase stability (MOI). Taylormade has been doing it since the SLDR, Callaway with each successive "Sub Zero" model, Cobra since the F6, and I suspect the TSi3 will follow that same pattern since the TS3 was a little unstable for some people. The design suggests they really tried to keep the CG down while moving it back, and IMO on paper it could definitely be a winner. 

Taylormade SIM 10.5* Diamana X'17 70TX 
Taylormade SIM Ti V2 15* Kuro Kage XD 80TX || Taylormade SIM Ti Tour Issue 16* Kuro Kage 80XTS
Taylormade SIM Max 18.5* Tensei Pro White 90TX || Taylormade M5 19* Tensei Pro Orange 90TX
Taylormade GAPR Lo 3 18.5* Kuro Kage 100XTS Hybrid
Taylormade RSI UDI 20* Project X PXi 7.0
Bridgestone J40 DPC 4i-7i 23*- 35* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
Bridgestone J40 CB 8i-PW 39*- 48* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
Vokey Mild Raw 8620 54* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
Vokey SM6 58* Oil Can Low Bounce K-Grind Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
Scotty Cameron Newport Tour Red Dot || Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Pro Platinum

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1 hour ago, Jbigda said:

Looks like team titleist members can book Titleist Free fittings now 

Where did you see this?   Thanks!

Titleist TSi3 10*, Tensei AV Blue Raw 55S

Titleist TS2 16.5*, Diamana LTD S+ Blue 80S

Titleist TS2 21*, Atmos HB Tour Spec Blue 8S
Miura CB 801 4-PW, Recoil Proto 110 F4

Miura 52.06, 56.10, 60.09, Recoil Proto 125 F4
Bettinardi Inovai 6.0 Crescent Neck LH, 34"

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21 hours ago, Minarets said:

As said before by someone else in here I was told October 15 when embargo is lifted.  I was told fitters can place orders beforehand but my fitter won't have demos until 10/12 or so.  

Michael Newton (the YouTuber) teased his review for mid-October, he's had them for a few days at least.

 

Not sure about the looks, I usually flip-flop on the soles of drivers, between funky high-tech and plain, but these just look unfinished, they way they hang in stores, the Titleist logo will be obscured and they may have little rack-appeal. The Titleist fans will of course know all about them, but the average punter ... they may walk past to the next display. I think I would have put the logo in the centre or flipped the Titleist and the TS badge.

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Have my Titleist Thursday set up ..... Not until November 19th though 😱  I will be anxiously awaiting this day! 

Driver: Titleist TSi2 HZRDUS Smoke RDX 6.0

Fairways: Titleist TS2 13.5* HZRDUS Black 6.0

Utility: Titleist U500 19* Fujikura Ventus Blue HB

Irons:  T300 4-5 iron, T200 6-PW PX Rifle 6.0 w/ MCC Align

Wedges: Vokeys SM8 48*, 52*, 56*

Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport 2

Ball: ProV1

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I was able to book a fitting about 4 weeks out.  Looking forward testing the TSi head to head with the SIM.

Titleist TSi3 10*, Tensei AV Blue Raw 55S

Titleist TS2 16.5*, Diamana LTD S+ Blue 80S

Titleist TS2 21*, Atmos HB Tour Spec Blue 8S
Miura CB 801 4-PW, Recoil Proto 110 F4

Miura 52.06, 56.10, 60.09, Recoil Proto 125 F4
Bettinardi Inovai 6.0 Crescent Neck LH, 34"

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Don’t know if anyone else saw this but haotong li posted this pic on his IG. Pretty cool adding the face angle to the Surefit chart! 

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Titleist TSi3 9.75°| Tensei AV Raw White 65S

Mizuno ST-Z 16°| Diamana D+ LTD 70S
Hybrid: TBD
Callaway Apex CF19 5-PW | Modus 105S
Callaway MD5 50°W 54°S 58°X | KBS $-Taper 120S

Putter: TBD
Titleist ProV1x

 

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49 minutes ago, agood3putt said:

Don’t know if anyone else saw this but haotong li posted this pic on his IG. Pretty cool adding the face angle to the Surefit chart! 

336D567A-0735-4A76-BF6A-1115779AE296.png

 

Face angle was on previous versions of the SureFit chart, starting when it was released with the 910 series, but removed later on. Below is the 915 series version.

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Titleist TSi3 10*, Tensei AV Blue Raw 55S

Titleist TS2 16.5*, Diamana LTD S+ Blue 80S

Titleist TS2 21*, Atmos HB Tour Spec Blue 8S
Miura CB 801 4-PW, Recoil Proto 110 F4

Miura 52.06, 56.10, 60.09, Recoil Proto 125 F4
Bettinardi Inovai 6.0 Crescent Neck LH, 34"

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55 minutes ago, dwboston said:

 

Face angle was on previous versions of the SureFit chart, starting when it was released with the 910 series, but removed later on. Below is the 915 series version.

The-Truth-about-the-Titleist-SureFit-Tou

I guess that’s what I get for jumping on the titleist chain earlier 

Titleist TSi3 9.75°| Tensei AV Raw White 65S

Mizuno ST-Z 16°| Diamana D+ LTD 70S
Hybrid: TBD
Callaway Apex CF19 5-PW | Modus 105S
Callaway MD5 50°W 54°S 58°X | KBS $-Taper 120S

Putter: TBD
Titleist ProV1x

 

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On 9/28/2020 at 3:37 PM, JStang said:

 

Did they tell you when it would ship? 

He said it would arrive around Nov 1st.

Titleist TSi3 - 9* - Tour AD IZ
Titleist TSi3 - 15* - Tour AD IZ
Titleist TS3 Hybrid - Even Flow
Titleist U500 - 4 iron, DG Tour Issue X-100
Titleist T100s 5-9, DG Tour Issue X-100
Titleist Vokey SM8 RAW - 46*, 50*, 56*, 60*, DG Tour Issue X-100 & S-400
Scotty Cameron 009 

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On 9/28/2020 at 5:09 PM, Minarets said:

How was it? Which one did you go with? What were you playing before hand? What shaft? I have lots of questions.How was it? Which one did you go with? What were you playing before hand? What shaft? I have lots of questions.

I am currently playing the Sim Max with AD-IZ shaft. I went with the TSi3 with Ad-IZ shaft. I have played Taylormade woods since the R7 425 TP days (except for a 6 month Titleist driver during 915 days I think). This driver is the real deal. Shape, sound AND ball speed. I am going to dive in deeper once I get it and try some different shafts, but the rep had my IZ shaft in his demo so it was an easy comparison for me. With that, I picked up 8-10 yards due mostly to the reduced spin. Ball speed was up about 1-2 mph but spin decreased from 2600 to 2300 and fit the optimization window better.

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Titleist TSi3 - 9* - Tour AD IZ
Titleist TSi3 - 15* - Tour AD IZ
Titleist TS3 Hybrid - Even Flow
Titleist U500 - 4 iron, DG Tour Issue X-100
Titleist T100s 5-9, DG Tour Issue X-100
Titleist Vokey SM8 RAW - 46*, 50*, 56*, 60*, DG Tour Issue X-100 & S-400
Scotty Cameron 009 

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42 minutes ago, Chris92009 said:

Was fitted the other day and I have say the alignment aide and clubs are as amazing as the hype has been up to this point! I put some pictures on my instagram page @Chris92009 along with a review of my thoughts on the clubs. 

Thanks.  New pro v sounds promising as well. 

Driver: PXG 0811x 9* Fujikura Speeder 661 Evolution IV 
Irons: Mizuno 921 Forged 4-PW, Recoils 95 F4*
Hybrids: PXG 0317X 19*
Wedges: Ping Glide 3.0 50*, 54*, 60*
Putter: Ping Vault 2.0 Ketcsh (solid black)  
Bag: Mizuno K1-LO white/staff blue (something new is coming, cant decide.)
Ball: Titleist Pro V1, Snell MTB-X, Maxfli Tour

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If this was discussed before I apologize. What are the stock shaft offerings? Maybe Ventus black?

TaylorMade SIM 9* Project X HZRDUS Smoke Green 60 6.5
TaylorMade M6 14* Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black 70 6.5
TaylorMade SIM Max Rescue 19* Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black HY 90 6.5
Mizuno JPX 919 Hot Metal Pro 4&5 KBS Tour C-Taper S
Mizuno JPX 900 Forged 6-PW KBS Tour C-Taper S
Mizuno T20 Raw 50-07, 54-08, 58-08 TT Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400
TaylorMade TP Black Cooper Ardmore 3L
TaylorMadeTP5x

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2 hours ago, rchera3 said:

If this was discussed before I apologize. What are the stock shaft offerings? Maybe Ventus black?

 

Sorry bud, that is far too optimistic.  Ventus Black wont be a stock offering in the next few years for any OEM.

 

It has been covered already, the Tensei Raw will be "it" shaft that will be available at no-charge (but not the tx version).

Driver: Ping G410 LST (Diamana ZF)
5w:  Titleist TS2 (Ventus Blue)
3H: Titleist 818 H2 (Ventus Blue HB)
or 3i: Cobra King Utility 21* (Tour AD DI)
4-P: PXG 0311T (KBS $-Taper)
Wedges: 51* Edel TRP, 55* Edel DVR, 60* Cally MD5
Putter: PXG Mini Gunboat H

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