2020 US Open

[JD3]

22 minutes ago, m d g said:

Club head speed is officially a thing...along with being a great putter.

 

Wolff can barely hit a fairway in regulation and shoots 65. BDC in deep rough on 17 and knocks it to a few feet for birdie.

 

If you're a young kid and aren't flying it 300+ in high school you will be at a serious disadvantage if you ever want to be a pro.

 

Not sure what courses like Winged Foot can do other than deeper bunkers and more/taller trees.

 

I'm not part of the 'BDC is a genius' camp, but he's figured something out (he was always a very good player). Wolff just happens to be long without the bulk, but both are fast and long.

I watched replay of every wolff shot on youtube:

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heres the scary thing , if he'd putted well he would have shot 63 or even 62 and broke millers record. That while only hitting a few fairways at winged foot! And not with the advantage of soft greens that miller had because of rain. 

 

Now just imagine what the pundits would be trying to sort out if that'd happen. 

Edited September 20, 2020 by JD3

[QuigleyDU]

On 9/18/2020 at 1:06 PM, JohnnyDub said:

Lets start with this, who does everyone like on Sunday? Lets take a poll. Pick a winner and the score and some WRX swag may be at the end of the rainbow. 

 I am late to the party as I had stuff going on all day. I am calling for a Rory come from behind win at -2.

[Prut]

Looks like Karma struck down the cheater and thief today, hopefully it gets that Arrogant POS tomorrow.

[QuigleyDU]

4 hours ago, JohnnyDub said:

Im predicting Wolf runs away with this thing....im seeing ZERO fear in this kids eyes.

Zero fear but this course can jump up and bite you quick!

[Shakespeare]

I have to say..if you can hit wedge 180 then rough doesn't matter ....still need to putt well though

[bscinstnct]

24 minutes ago, Prut said:

Looks like Karma struck down the cheater and thief today, hopefully it gets that Arrogant POS tomorrow.

 

Wait, is the “cheater and thief” the same guy as the “arrogant POS”?

 

Either way, Karma seems to be $ paying him/them well ; )

[m d g]

32 minutes ago, Shakespeare said:

I have to say..if you can hit wedge 180 then rough doesn't matter ....still need to putt well though

Exactly...if you've got the speed to fly it 340 then you've got the speed to get out of the rough...win/win.

Putting will always matter, but I've always liked BDC's putting method and Wolff seems pretty solid in that department.

[grm24]

9 hours ago, QuigleyDU said:

Seems these golfers have fully embraced the whoop.. 

Well Whoop is an official PGA Tour sponsor.......

[CasualLie]

Not a lot of faith here that Wolf takes the win??? He looks pretty tough to catch if the wind stays down.  I don't see him bungling the irons tomorrow and clearly missing fairways is not a problem for him.  

 

So I'm rooting for wind or it could be a fairly boring back 9.

[sonnygolf]

That was the worst day of golf. Zero wind and boring. I pray for a looooot of wind final day. BD has got this in the bag. 

[Forged4ever]

13 hours ago, Dr. Block said:

If Bryson walks away with this thing it will be an official and sad paradigm shift for the modern game. To use a boxing analogy, the days of the artful and calculated out fighter will officially be replaced by the slugger.  It will be proven that golf is now a one size fits all pummel-fest 

This has been said a few times over the past 40-50 years that I've been around the game, with the two most recent times that I can recall having been when Big John hit The Show in the early 90's and then when Tiger came out launchin, dominating and the buzzword du jour at all of the top clubs and tourney tracks was "Tiger Proofing," including ours, which co-hosted the medal portion of the US Amateur with Oakmont at the height of the long ball mania(2003).

 

Lest anyone forget, lemme remind ya of a short baller, ie., artful and calculated out fighter, by the name of Zack Johnson, who went on to bag TWELVE Big Boy events, TWO of em Majors, surrounded by Tiger and all these long ballers on the leaderboard over the next 12-15 years, and it's sorta ironic that he's lurkin in the shadows goin into tomorrow's final round.

 

First off, cept for Tiger at Pebble, and then Rory at Congressional, no one "walks away" with a friggin US Open, especially DeChambeau, who doesn't have the mentality to walk away with/from anything, cept a tough interview..

 

Secondly, I don't wanna see DeChambeau win, and trust me, it won't be "official," and there sureTF won't be any "paradigm shift" if he does, however my feelings are just that I don't like the guy, so I don't wanna see him win, as with guys like him, that only reinforces in their minds that their behavior if fine, proper and in fact appropriate, as for them, the ends justify the means. 

 

However, win or lose today, DeChambeau will not any more cause "the artful and calculated out fighter" to be replaced by the "slugger" than Big John did or Tiger did, and dare I say that Tiger is closer to "the artful and calculated out fighter" than he is to "slugger" these days

 

Nor will a DeChambeau victory today prove "that golf is now a one size fits all pummel-fest," lol

 

The only thing that it will prove to me is that an *sshole, barely in the word's Top-10, who cracked the Top-20 in a Major for the first time since turning Pro at this year's PGA Championship(T-15?), is improving??‍♂️

 

As always, just my .03 worth?

 

Fairways & Greens 4ever My Friends⛳️

RP

Edited September 20, 2020 by Forged4ever

[Hankshank]

Isnt there something  ...two-glovesy over Matt Wolff? Not only the swing? I get a sense of danger when seeing Wolff, as I got with Tommy two-gloves.

Edited September 20, 2020 by Hankshank

[Maximilian]

13 minutes ago, Hankshank said:

Isnt there something  ...two-glovesy over Matt Wolff? Not only the swing? I get a sense of danger when seeing Wolff, as I got with Tommy two-gloves.

Tommy is a convicted criminal. I see Wolff like someone who brags over his awesome Pokémon cards. He has a bad @ss name though, that helps.

[Fischputza]

8 hours ago, m d g said:

 

 

Not sure what courses like Winged Foot can do other than deeper bunkers and more/taller trees.

 

 

Easy......bushes. Most of the courses in Europe have bushes, thick bushes, you're dead in there

Edited September 20, 2020 by Fischputza
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[Fischputza]

2 hours ago, Forged4ever said:

 

First off, cept for Tiger at Pebble, and then Rory at Congressional, no one "walks away" with a friggin US Open, especially DeChambeau, who doesn't have the mentality to walk away with/from anything, cept a tough interview..

 

 

Well said, Sir!

[avguy]

Well, the Final Pairing is two swings I would Never try any  of those moves or setups myself and am not really thrilled in even watching alot of them on TV!

 

Can you think of any other pair of players whose game and/or swings make you not want to watch as much as these guys?

 

I'll go Jim Furyk and J.B. Holmes.  That's a combo of weird swing and slowness!  I also do not like Inbee Park's swing on the LPGA in large doses. My warmup swing  seems faster than her actual swing (which of course is very good!).

[Hankshank]

1 hour ago, Maximilian said:

Tommy is a convicted criminal. I see Wolff like someone who brags over his awesome Pokémon cards. He has a bad @ss name though, that helps.

Might be so. But I guess its the same as with Kirk and Charley hoffman. Their game faces during play make them look like someone in Deliverance, that village, but after the round, in interviews and so they look kinda normal. Wollff though is pretty same face all the time in interviews, and not the most humble of players.

[fowlerscousin]

There needs to be a thread dedicated to Danny Lee blow-up yesterday. Imo biggest blowup in the history of pro golf

[Ferguson]

On 9/18/2020 at 7:47 AM, Ferguson said:

References to AW Tillinghast

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Current count: 31

 

[fastfade]

9 hours ago, Prut said:

Looks like Karma struck down the cheater and thief today, hopefully it gets that Arrogant POS tomorrow.

Guess you missed it FIGMAN missed the cut big time:)

[Greg_B]

11 hours ago, Cincy_Ken said:

No. 2 hole aggregate put in play this year

 

There might not be enough daylight left even for that given the time of year and the way things have been going (slow).

[Greg_B]

12 hours ago, ATLgopher said:

tiger always left his waitresses with a smile on their face 

But no tip.

[Greg_B]

12 hours ago, Yuck said:

JT and Rahm 6 over today, Reed +7 and Bryson shoots 70?   I would not of believed it, but Bryson is the only one who’s game plan assumes being in the rough.  It just might work.  But Matsuyama  takes this at -2.;

 

The only way Matsuyama will win is if someone takes him aside before the round and explains to him that the objective of putting is to roll the ball INTO the hole, not just knock it close.

[ronnbee]

14 hours ago, Kilo1545 said:

I just meant his golf game.  I knew nothing about him as a person.  That's pretty sad though; someone who's blessed to play a game for a living and make a ton of money, going around treating people like crap.  It also cracks me up, because athletes and actors are literally modern day court jesters whose value lies in entertaining the masses.  How they've come to believe they're above everyone else is beyond me.

Curtis Strange and Lanny Wadkins were like this

[King_Slender]

This US Open is going to have a big asterisk if Wolff wins - dude has never played a major with a crowd and hasn't even really looked into the history of the US Open.  I don't think you can truly understand the weight of winning a major unless you're doing it in front of those crowds, hearing roars as others make a move and need to respond. 

 

Glad golf is back, but majors aren't deserving of the same place on the mantle until fans are back.

[King_Slender]

27 minutes ago, Greg_B said:

But no tip.

 

He left the tip for the hostess.

[wcbjr]

25 minutes ago, King_Slender said:

This US Open is going to have a big asterisk if Wolff wins - dude has never played a major with a crowd and hasn't even really looked into the history of the US Open.  I don't think you can truly understand the weight of winning a major unless you're doing it in front of those crowds, hearing roars as others make a move and need to respond. 

 

Glad golf is back, but majors aren't deserving of the same place on the mantle until fans are back.

 

The strength of field hasn't changed.  And for some people, the absence of sound and crowd movement is tougher.  Tiger relied on the crowd to help him.  A major is a major.

Edited September 20, 2020 by wcbjr

[wcbjr]

What I want to know is...why is there no practice coverage right now?  Just stick a camera or two out there and turn on the stream.

[JD3]

2 hours ago, fowlerscousin said:

There needs to be a thread dedicated to Danny Lee blow-up yesterday. Imo biggest blowup in the history of pro golf

Wow 6 putt from 4 feet on 18. I wasn't even aware of this until your post. To that point he was a respectable 3 over for the day. He withdrew due to "wrist injury.". Whats up with that?

Edited September 20, 2020 by JD3

[Sean2]

47 minutes ago, King_Slender said:

This US Open is going to have a big asterisk if Wolff wins - dude has never played a major with a crowd and hasn't even really looked into the history of the US Open.  I don't think you can truly understand the weight of winning a major unless you're doing it in front of those crowds, hearing roars as others make a move and need to respond. 

 

Glad golf is back, but majors aren't deserving of the same place on the mantle until fans are back.

I was wondering if the no crowd thing will be a bit of an advantage for Wolff. He has played in front of crowds before, but nothing like a US Open. That said, you still have to get the ball in the hole and if he pulls it off, he is a legit US Open winner, despite no crowds.

 

Sleeping on a lead in a US Open, then having to wait until early afternoon to tee it up...that is some pressure right there. I think his caddy will be twice as important today...keeping him calm and relaxed. 

 

That all said, the leaders could back up a bit, and someone a few strokes back could post a great round and walk away with the trophy. It's golf, anything could happen, lol.