2020 US Open

[stingerfade]

7 minutes ago, m d g said:

It was a joke...

https://clubproguy.com/products/my-punch-out-game-is-elite-t-shirt

I get it was just saying in case you’ve never actually played with gorse. Trust me, I get a jumbo bucket and go through the bag. 3 wood in case I need to get a couple fairways over....

[Dr. Block]

8 hours ago, Forged4ever said:

This has been said a few times over the past 40-50 years that I've been around the game, with the two most recent times that I can recall having been when Big John hit The Show in the early 90's and then when Tiger came out launchin, dominating and the buzzword du jour at all of the top clubs and tourney tracks was "Tiger Proofing," including ours, which co-hosted the medal portion of the US Amateur with Oakmont at the height of the long ball mania(2003).

 

Lest anyone forget, lemme remind ya of a short baller, ie., artful and calculated out fighter, by the name of Zack Johnson, who went on to bag TWELVE Big Boy events, TWO of em Majors, surrounded by Tiger and all these long ballers on the leaderboard over the next 12-15 years, and it's sorta ironic that he's lurkin in the shadows goin into tomorrow's final round.

 

First off, cept for Tiger at Pebble, and then Rory at Congressional, no one "walks away" with a friggin US Open, especially DeChambeau, who doesn't have the mentality to walk away with/from anything, cept a tough interview..

 

Secondly, I don't wanna see DeChambeau win, and trust me, it won't be "official," and there sureTF won't be any "paradigm shift" if he does, however my feelings are just that I don't like the guy, so I don't wanna see him win, as with guys like him, that only reinforces in their minds that their behavior if fine, proper and in fact appropriate, as for them, the ends justify the means. 

 

However, win or lose today, DeChambeau will not any more cause "the artful and calculated out fighter" to be replaced by the "slugger" than Big John did or Tiger did, and dare I say that Tiger is closer to "the artful and calculated out fighter" than he is to "slugger" these days

 

Nor will a DeChambeau victory today prove "that golf is now a one size fits all pummel-fest," lol

 

The only thing that it will prove to me is that an *sshole, barely in the word's Top-10, who cracked the Top-20 in a Major for the first time since turning Pro at this year's PGA Championship(T-15?), is improving??‍♂️

 

As always, just my .03 worth?

 

Fairways & Greens 4ever My Friends⛳️

RP

To me Bryson is a different sort of Slugger then past sluggers. There is something so painfully one dimensional about his long game. The one length irons, the jack hammer one plane swing, it all just offends my senses. I think he represents a very extreme example of the science of sport’s influence on the game of golf moving forward. Tiger and Daly were sluggers, but they possessed the rest of the games artful nuances, they weren’t trying to eliminate them from their arsenal by choice and strategy. I think that is the important distinction; that is the difference I find worrysome. 
 

 

[nickp91]

Watching all those golfers muff their putts is hilarious

[chigolfer1]

Go Matthew!

[JD3]

4 hours ago, King_Slender said:

This US Open is going to have a big asterisk if Wolff wins - dude has never played a major with a crowd and hasn't even really looked into the history of the US Open.  I don't think you can truly understand the weight of winning a major unless you're doing it in front of those crowds, hearing roars as others make a move and need to respond. 

 

Glad golf is back, but majors aren't deserving of the same place on the mantle until fans are back.

Golf channel switches to cambia portland classic when us open goes to peacock. You're more than welcomed to watch the cambia ...lol

[Shilgy]

3 hours ago, JD3 said:

Wow 6 putt from 4 feet on 18. I wasn't even aware of this until your post. To that point he was a respectable 3 over for the day. He withdrew due to "wrist injury.". Whats up with that?

If you watch it though after the first couple he knew he was going to wd. The last three putts were haphazard slaps like Phil at Shinnecock.

[wmblake2000]

15 hours ago, Kaysquare said:

Well, I was actually rooting for Patrick Reed at the beginning of today's coverage (unusual for me).  After his back nine melt-down, I've switched to the Kid, Wolf.  But I have a feeling Sunday might bring someone else to the forefront (English, McIlroy, etc).  What a finish today!  Sorry, I just have a hard time rooting for Bryson.  

I can’t root for Bryson either. Not sure why exactly. Would love Wolf to play well, hold off serious chargers, win. He is totally fun to watch. Maybe the other thing even though Bryson isn’t my cup of tea, he and Wolf have their own swings which is fun. 

[Kilo1545]

32 minutes ago, Dr. Block said:

To me Bryson is a different sort of Slugger then past sluggers. There is something so painfully one dimensional about his long game. The one length irons, the jack hammer one plane swing, it all just offends my senses. I think he represents a very extreme example of the science of sport’s influence on the game of golf moving forward. Tiger and Daly were sluggers, but they possessed the rest of the games artful nuances, they weren’t trying to eliminate them from their arsenal by choice and strategy. I think that is the important distinction; that is the difference I find worrysome. 
 

 

Agree 100%.  Science vs. art.  When things get too science-y, they lose their beauty.  "Offends my senses" is a good descriptor.

 

They're out there to win and make money, so I understand they only care about results - and if science gets them there, then so be it.  It's still less enjoyable to watch.

 

[wmblake2000]

35 minutes ago, Dr. Block said:

To me Bryson is a different sort of Slugger then past sluggers. There is something so painfully one dimensional about his long game. The one length irons, the jack hammer one plane swing, it all just offends my senses. I think he represents a very extreme example of the science of sport’s influence on the game of golf moving forward. Tiger and Daly were sluggers, but they possessed the rest of the games artful nuances, they weren’t trying to eliminate them from their arsenal by choice and strategy. I think that is the important distinction; that is the difference I find worrysome. 
 

 

Nicely put. 

[wmblake2000]

2 hours ago, Mike_C said:

Oh my....

I think he was in my last 4some

[Christosterone]

I’m still rooting for Niemann...because His swing reminds me of the good ole days

 

 

[Dr. Block]

11 minutes ago, Kilo1545 said:

Agree 100%.  Science vs. art.  When things get too science-y, they lose their beauty.  "Offends my senses" is a good descriptor.

 

They're out there to win and make money, so I understand they only care about results - and if science gets them there, then so be it.  It's still less enjoyable to watch.

 

Bryson’s short game is much improved, that is the scary thing.  As much as he wants us to notice his exercise regiment and his distance gains, he’s been spending some time in the wood shed on his short game. His round could’ve gotten away from him yesterday on the early holes, but his short game kept the momentum going for him. 
 

If he gets his scrambling and sand save statistics in the top echelon he could be very dominant.   

[tannyhoban]

Just dawned on the nbc crew that though the game is played differently the results are nearly identical  to 1984. Actually, more were under par in 1984 after 3 rounds. ???

Edited September 20, 2020 by tannyhoban
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[Medson]

Let’s argue how Bryson ruins the game AFTER he wins. 

[Hankshank]

Odd couple in the final group. Or at least not your everyday Leadbetter swingers sayin only you have to stay in the process. I like that leader group. Chambo wont outdrive Wolff with much. Which of the swings more odd, i go for Wolff. Even though its good for him it gotta be dont try this at home. Its like 1/10 sec before impact it looks like what the hell is the guy doing then BAM. Hilarious and fantastic. But there you go. Mr telephone booth probably had the longest career without swing draughts and a 59 and a 58. One wish one could construe something like that oneself. Have been trying since ’81, and you never know. One of these days...

anyhow, looking forward to see some action when the broadcast starts here in Scandinavia in half an hour. Seeing the scores the wind is up? Eastern time, but I think I will have finale to the morning coffee before work tomorrow, gonna tape it. Feels like Wolff used most of his zest yesterday, think that Antman will get his first. But then, like 2006 you never know...

Edited September 20, 2020 by Hankshank

[Kilo1545]

8 minutes ago, Dr. Block said:

Bryson’s short game is much improved, that is the scary thing.  As much as he wants us to notice his exercise regiment and his distance gains, he’s been spending some time in the wood shed on his short game. His round could’ve gotten away from him yesterday on the early holes, but his short game kept the momentum going for him. 
 

If he gets his scrambling and sand save statistics in the top echelon he could be very dominant.   

True.  I think that works if you get streaky/hot for the right 4 days in a row.  Having a good scramble game is definitely a good thing, but having to rely on your scrambling game...maybe not so much, at least on a continual basis.  

 

That conversation is already going re: Jordan Spieth (the technical/swing thread, not that other one ?).  His short game and draining long putts gave him some success, but it was unsustainable over the long term.

[Forged4ever]

6 hours ago, bladehunter said:

They’d have to vacate all of seve and players majors too if they did.  They were more blatant that reed has ever been. And no I’m not researching it for you. But the videos of both playing the old “ 3 wood 3 wood 3 wood .... no no I hit 8 iron now “ from he rough are on YouTube.  And players sand shoveling is common knowledge 

 

and relying on twitter for golf  rules might be a fools errand.  That is most certainly not against the rules to ground your club.  He doesn’t break any grass off.  Sorry. You can also risk standing behind the ball with your foot if you like.  But nobody does as the ball is likely to move. Show me the “ club hovering rule “ from the rough.  

Superbly stated Bro?!!

 

There are at least two Icons of the game, not legends, ICONS(one is deceased, oh, 4 years this 09/25/16?), that dismissed Player as a "cheat." Let me make clear that neither of these men dismissed his accomplishments, as they are what they are, and most were won without incident(MOST), however they have little or no respect for him cuz of his few "incidents," and nothing speaks more to his reputation at the time(1983) than Tom Watson's four words in the middle of his tirade over the Skins debacle, "I'm tired of this," and while Tom never really got specific in the few discussions that we had where this topic came up, he did say that "that was not the first time," which gives clarity to "I'm tired of this." 

 

Last year when Patrick was penalized in the sand trap at the Hero, one of the old timers walked into the pool room over at the club, which sits off of the men's card room, and laughingly stated, "ole Patrick pulled a Player cept he got penalized," lol. We have used Player's name as a verb for anyone who skirts the rules to outright cheating since the mid 80's, following his 1983 Skins game debacle(google it if ya don't know of it).

 

He had a few doosies in The Open, with this one, in 1974, captured for eternity......

 

 

When ya see him step outa the box and look up and motion behind him to the crowd above him on the landing, it was to quiet a fan who had called him out on his blatant disregard for the rules of the game.

 

Hahaha, yah, Seve got a lil crazy too??

 

I just figured that it was that Seve was so d*mn competitive that he went all psycho and could only focus on the ball, the target/pin⛳️, etc., and the ONLY vision in his brain? was the ball, his swing, the pin, so anything outside of those three things, he didn't see and they didn't happen??‍♂️

 

My Dad's Partner, a former #2-3 at Penn State, was like that as he aged and lost his game however we just banned him from the Championship flight tourneys??

 

He was no Seve??

 

Stay Well Brotha and my very Best to you and the Fam?

RP

 

 

Edited September 20, 2020 by Forged4ever

[Christosterone]

Bryson is a heckuva golfer...he’s a talker and tends to step on his accomplishments by giving people(golfwrx) so much fodder to focus on NOT related to his brilliant game...

 

It’s easy to forget only 8 people on this entire planet are currently ahead of him in ranking...

 

he is a spectacular talent who is more than the caricature he is perceived/portrayed...

and it goes without saying I understand he has contributed to how we view him...

 

Regardless of today’s outcome, he is onto something that works for him...possibly others...time will tell

 

But he is, at present, in elite company world ranking wise

 

 

[Dan33185]

3 hours ago, 976-Evil said:

 

No, there won't be an asterisk. Whoever wins, won, plain and simple.

That's my feeling as well. They are all playing without a crowd, it's not like only Wolff has that advantage. Even playing field, so whoever wins this deserves it, regardless of conditions.

[Forged4ever]

33 minutes ago, Medson said:

Let’s argue how Bryson ruins the game AFTER he wins. 

????

 

THIS gets my US Open "Sunday Thought of the Day?" 

 

Well, if there was such a thing??‍♂️

 

And please, IF DeChambeau wins, he will no more ruin the game than he would change it??

 

At the end of the day, he'll just be another name on the trophy? 

 

Cheers?

RP

Edited September 20, 2020 by Forged4ever

[ElMosquito]

Got a feeling this is Bryson's moment. Fascinated to see if Wolff can hold it together. Should be a cracking day.

[the bishop]

I keep imagining an alternate version of that US Bank commercial where that guy drowns his wife in that stupid koi pond.

[the bishop]

Its gonna get ugly today.

[QuigleyDU]

I am hoping that Rory comes through today.  Rough opening hole though.

[Shilgy]

1 minute ago, QuigleyDU said:

I am hoping that Rory comes through today.  Rough opening hole though.

Rough, it is looking like Shinnecock(actually more like that year at Olympic) on hole #1. Terrible pin position.

[QuigleyDU]

4 minutes ago, Shilgy said:

Rough, it is looking like Shinnecock(actually more like that year at Olympic) on hole #1. Terrible pin position.

I agree. If you get it to 3 feet and the ball rolls back 70 feet. That’s terrible. 

[jmck]

7 minutes ago, Shilgy said:

Rough, it is looking like Shinnecock(actually more like that year at Olympic) on hole #1. Terrible pin position.

Well I’m sure it’s made Mike Davis super happy and that’s what’s important here.

[QuigleyDU]

Big boy time!! Here we goooooooo!!!

[jmck]

2 minutes ago, QuigleyDU said:

I agree. If you get it to 3 feet and the ball rolls back 70 feet. That’s terrible. 

Exactly.

[Shilgy]

2 minutes ago, jmck said:

Well I’m sure it’s made Mike Davis super happy and that’s what’s important here.

Just trying to identify....who’s important here!