2020 US Open

[Holy Moses]

Bryson’s long and straight driving is incredible, but that’s not all he is. From 2019 to 2020, Bryson gained 1/3 of a stroke tee to green, 1/3 of a stroke putting, and 2/3 of a stroke off the tee. He’s incredible!

[Dicka]

3 hours ago, johnseg said:

I think one of the things they are going to reexamine is anchoring. I can see them trying to eliminate the armlock. I think if you have an anchoring ban, a croquet ban, etc. then how can you let guys "attach" a putter to their arm.

 

Agreed. I can't stand any type of anchoring. To me it removes a fundamental part of the game. It becomes a sweeping action and not a golf stroke. Just get rid of ANY type of anchoring IMO.

[HackDaddy360]

1 hour ago, Dicka said:

 

Agreed. I can't stand any type of anchoring. To me it removes a fundamental part of the game. It becomes a sweeping action and not a golf stroke. Just get rid of ANY type of anchoring IMO.

I’m drifting the thread by staying on this point but I really couldn’t care less if someone anchors.  
 

Essentially none of the dominant players in the game anchored.  A few, but not that many.  The most dominant players didn’t anchor then - and don’t now because it’s illegal.  
 

So to me - anchor away.  If that really was the better mousetrap you’d have everyone clamoring to anchor - which never happened.  Could have, but I still find that unlikely. 
 

I screwed around with trying to anchor - it didn’t work at all for me. No feel.  But to me, it’s no different than center shaft/long/inserts/et.  Club can’t so the work for you - you still have to make putts. 
 

Now, when they banned anchoring, same logic could be applied - it didn’t impact that many people but they got in front of it.   
 

Anchoring was a bigger deal than BDs long drivers and length though - it seemed fundamentally different and broke the mold - perhaps too much. 
 

BD is just using legal equipment differently - which I see as a whole different ball of wax. 
 

If anything gets banned from BDs open performance I bet it’ll be single length irons.   The more I read about that, the more it makes perfect logical sense to use single length irons (and in my mind did give Bryson an edge out of the rough) the more likely it is they force players to use clubs that aren’t equal length and each subsequent iron must be x inches/mm’s/% shorter than the club the proceeds it.  

[Shilgy]

Bryson does not anchor. Neither does Kuchar or Simpson. They essentially use a conventional grip with a putter that is too long. They forward press to where the grip is pressed against their forearm. If you ban that you could ban the reminder grips as well. All the so called arm lock does is remind them to keep it pressed against the arm but it is not locked in any way.

Edited September 22, 2020 by Shilgy

[OrangeGravy]

11 hours ago, Christosterone said:

I can’t find many pictures but his bags always coordinated...

Doug would change to matching headcovers too...ishikawa did this early in his career(not the bag)

anyhow, sanders bag with the red velour over white to match his red/white outfit is bananas

it appears even his umbrella matched....dude was next level quirky/awesome

 

 

 

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That is so many levels of cool better than anyone in the past 30 years. Polter used to give it a good effort, but he's throttled it down in recent years. I think Tiger should go this route the rest of the way until he retires. Take it straight back to the 70's. He could even lean on paying tribute to his Dad's era of play. Has to be someone with enough natural cool or golf cache to pull it off properly

[YMark]

On 9/20/2020 at 1:23 PM, RyanBarathWRX said:

did anyone peg Bryson to win a major before Ricky?

 

I'm not surprised at all. Bryson seems to put way more time into his game than Rickie. And I'm sure he plays in more events than Fowler and one way to be tournament tough is to play in a lot of tourneys.  Fowler can't string 2 rounds together and forget Sundays. I'm a big fan of Rickie, but he's frustrating to watch.

Edited September 22, 2020 by YMark

[grm24]

13 hours ago, Golf10 said:

 

11 strokes lower winning score than last time shows that Winged Foot's skirt was lifted very high

 

So history simply repeated itself at Winged Foot. Winning US Open score in 1974 was +7. In 1984 it was -4. So another 11 stroke difference just like 2006 and this year.

[Golf10]

1 hour ago, grm24 said:

 

So history simply repeated itself at Winged Foot. Winning US Open score in 1974 was +7. In 1984 it was -4. So another 11 stroke difference just like 2006 and this year.

 

Having fun bro.  Great track, especially for the Open.  Loved the Hanse renovation.  Bryson balled out.

[OrangeGravy]

1 hour ago, YMark said:

I'm not surprised at all. Bryson seems to put way more time into his game than Rickie. And I'm sure he plays in more events than Fowler and one way to be tournament tough is to play in a lot of tourneys.  Fowler can't string 2 rounds together and forget Sundays. I'm a big fan of Rickie, but he's frustrating to watch.

How much shorter is he compared to most of the top players? 

[Ferguson]

Bryson:

 

Scientific Approach

Uses Logic and Sound Reasoning

Capitalizes on Strength and Size

Plays the Driver to his Advantage

US Open wins: 1

 

 

 

Phil:

 

Erroneous Approach

Uses Senselessness and Poor Judgement

Ignores Strength and Relies on “tasty” 9 irons

Plays the Driver away from Targets

US Open wins: 0

 

 

[indianagolf2]

Relax on how great bryston will be, seen this hype tons of times with others 

[Cincy_Ken]

7 hours ago, YMark said:

I'm not surprised at all. Bryson seems to put way more time into his game than Rickie. And I'm sure he plays in more events than Fowler and one way to be tournament tough is to play in a lot of tourneys.  Fowler can't string 2 rounds together and forget Sundays. I'm a big fan of Rickie, but he's frustrating to watch.

This is an apples to oranges comparison.  Regardless of his unique personality Bryson is an elite talent.  He already had more wins in 4 full seasons than Rickie had in 12.  Comparing these two would be the equivalent of comparing Aaron Rodgers to an above average starter like Ryan Tannehill.

[QuigleyDU]

This is a really good listen about the championship. From someone that was there and competed. I think there is some really good perspective.

 

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/get-a-grip-with-max-homa-shane-bacon/id1492360046?i=1000492062053

 

 

[kidcloudkicker]

On 9/20/2020 at 1:35 PM, TheIncelGolfer said:

English loses his ball off the first tee and NBC doesn't show a replay of the drive. 

 

I really can't believe they never showed any replay. Maybe they only had the one look at it from behind the tee box but still surprising they never showed it again considering they stayed on the hole for almost the entire time they searched for the ball. 

[Hawkeye77]

6 hours ago, Ferguson said:

Bryson:

 

Scientific Approach

Uses Logic and Sound Reasoning

Capitalizes on Strength and Size

Plays the Driver to his Advantage

US Open wins: 1

 

 

 

Phil:

 

Erroneous Approach

Uses Senselessness and Poor Judgement

Ignores Strength and Relies on “tasty” 9 irons

Plays the Driver away from Targets

US Open wins: 0

 

 

 

Knew this was coming! Knew it!

[Greg_B]

50 minutes ago, kidcloudkicker said:

 

I really can't believe they never showed any replay. Maybe they only had the one look at it from behind the tee box but still surprising they never showed it again considering they stayed on the hole for almost the entire time they searched for the ball. 

I saw it in highlights (I forget if it was on NBC later in the day or on GC) and they had a shot of it taken from somewhere down the fairway. There were a few people around where it seemed be be headed but not many.

[braincramp52]

8 hours ago, Ferguson said:

Bryson:

 

Scientific Approach

Uses Logic and Sound Reasoning

Capitalizes on Strength and Size

Plays the Driver to his Advantage

US Open wins: 1

 

 

 

Phil:

 

Erroneous Approach

Uses Senselessness and Poor Judgement

Ignores Strength and Relies on “tasty” 9 irons

Plays the Driver away from Targets

US Open wins: 0

 

 

 

Don't forget the other 5 majors and 45 wins Fergie. 

[Ferguson]

1 minute ago, braincramp52 said:

 

Don't forget the other 5 majors and 45 wins Fergie. 

 

 

Just trying my best to stay on topic (US Open) by presenting the antithesis to Bryson, that's all. 

 

 

 

 

 

[braincramp52]

1 minute ago, Ferguson said:

 

 

Just trying my best to stay on topic (US Open) by presenting the antithesis to Bryson, that's all. 

 

 

 

 

 

Yea,ok.?

[Dr. Block]

3 minutes ago, Ferguson said:

 

 

Just trying my best to stay on topic (US Open) by presenting the antithesis to Bryson, that's all. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm amused that Ferg can still come up with fresh material on Phil.  He's been weaving this tapestry for quite awhile.   

[miamistomp]

 Took Bryson about 4 years to win first major

    Phil 12 

     Couples 10

[jmck]

3 minutes ago, Dr. Block said:

 

I'm amused that Ferg can still come up with fresh material on Phil.  He's been weaving this tapestry for quite awhile.   

This ain't no machine-made $99 on amazon tapestry Ferg is working on here.  He's an old world craftsman, dedicating his life to a higher calling, stitch by stitch, until one day.....TRIUMPH! 

 

[bscinstnct]

19 hours ago, Holy Moses said:

Bryson’s long and straight driving is incredible, but that’s not all he is. From 2019 to 2020, Bryson gained 1/3 of a stroke tee to green, 1/3 of a stroke putting, and 2/3 of a stroke off the tee. He’s incredible!

 

Ya, this says it all. And he can “step up” in the big moment and close. 
 

Bryson Era! 
 

Or, given his ample mass

 

Bison Era!

 

 

 

 

Edited September 22, 2020 by bscinstnct

[mahonie]

1 minute ago, jmck said:

This ain't no machine-made $99 on amazon tapestry Ferg is working on here.  He's an old world craftsman, dedicating his life to a higher calling, stitch by stitch, until one day.....TRIUMPH! 

 

...except Phil’s a lefty!!

[miamistomp]

 Put Work day and KPMG on the green guy and I see the resemblance ??

[carrier street]

I thought it was a great tournament. Every time Bryson talks I nearly tear a muscle rolling my eyes, but I respect his commitment to trying different s*** and running with it. People are really underestimating how unlikely it was that this was successful. Do you know how many guys fell off the face of the planet after trying to hit it a club farther? 

[jmck]

And before any of the no doubt many, many art history majors we have here on golfwrx get on me about it, yes, I know that's not a tapestry but rather a painting.  It lives in The Cloisters, way uptown in Manhattan, and the mention of tapestries made me think of their rather famous yet mysterious unicorn hunt series (if you're curious).  But I instead went with St. Michael--one room over from the unicorns--for the rich symbolic imagery of an angelic Ferguson triumphant over an evil Phil. 

 

Seriously though, I've been lucky enough to have seen a lot of very good art all over the world, and that St. Michael piece is one that stands out as really blowing my hair back.  It's like 4x8' in person, and the picture doesn't do its impact justice.  Much like Bryson I suppose.

[Greg_B]

According to this story in Golf Digest at least, the members at Winged Foot are less than enthralled with their new champion golfer.

[Hawkeye77]

19 hours ago, HackDaddy360 said:

I’m drifting the thread by staying on this point but I really couldn’t care less if someone anchors.  
 

Essentially none of the dominant players in the game anchored.  A few, but not that many.  The most dominant players didn’t anchor then - and don’t now because it’s illegal.  
 

So to me - anchor away.  If that really was the better mousetrap you’d have everyone clamoring to anchor - which never happened.  Could have, but I still find that unlikely. 
 

I screwed around with trying to anchor - it didn’t work at all for me. No feel.  But to me, it’s no different than center shaft/long/inserts/et.  Club can’t so the work for you - you still have to make putts. 
 

Now, when they banned anchoring, same logic could be applied - it didn’t impact that many people but they got in front of it.   
 

Anchoring was a bigger deal than BDs long drivers and length though - it seemed fundamentally different and broke the mold - perhaps too much. 
 

BD is just using legal equipment differently - which I see as a whole different ball of wax. 
 

If anything gets banned from BDs open performance I bet it’ll be single length irons.   The more I read about that, the more it makes perfect logical sense to use single length irons (and in my mind did give Bryson an edge out of the rough) the more likely it is they force players to use clubs that aren’t equal length and each subsequent iron must be x inches/mm’s/% shorter than the club the proceeds it.  

LOL, single length irons aren’t getting banned. Not even a reasonable take. 

[Hawkeye77]

1 minute ago, Greg_B said:

According to this story in Golf Digest at least, the members at Winged Foot are less than enthralled with their new champion golfer.

 

A couple of anecdotes from 4 years ago and pretty much nothing of an article. Click bait and superficial. 
 

If “they” don’t like it (and seems to be exaggerated) then I like it more!