2020 US Open

[hybrid25]

Weather report for New York

[ebrasmus21]

2 minutes ago, hybrid25 said:

Weather report for New York

Not ideal weather for El Tigre 

[bladehunter]

2 hours ago, ThinkingPlus said:

"Welcome to the Jungle", GnR

Follow that up with “ don’t cry “ and It’s perfect.  

[smashdn]

Chamber of commerce forecast.

[bscinstnct]

Vid of TW this morning 

 

 

 

 

[BobMorris]

I can't help but think that this course setup is perfectly suited for a Webb Simpson victory.

[bladehunter]

13 minutes ago, BobMorris said:

I can't help but think that this course setup is perfectly suited for a Webb Simpson victory.

Beat me to it.  I just heard his presser and he’s ready.  I mean you could see it.  I picked Fleetwood to win.  But Webb is my 2nd pick now.  

[lchang]

7 hours ago, freowho said:

I've been saying this for years. If you gave golfers the choice of a game at Winged Foot or the local suburban club 99% would choose Winged Foot. If after the game, they then get to choose a membership at Winged Foot or the local suburban club 99% would say not Winged Foot.

 

I wonder if the East course is quite a bit less challenging?  That's a nice thing for members.  I know that at Olympic Club, it's great to have the Lake course (which has hosted all those Opens) as well as the "easier" Ocean course.  Walking off the Lake course, it's common to feel tired and a bit beat-up.  Walking off the Ocean course, the usual sentiment is:  Let's play again!

[Togatown22]

2 hours ago, NoCalHack said:

 

Fortunate to have played it once.  In the summer in dry conditions.

 

I didn't remember it being crazy from tee to green.  Of course, I was not playing the course from 7500 yards, and I wasn't playing the course with that kind of rough.  

 

What I do remember is the green complexes.  Insane and beautiful.  Just about every single green is distinctive and memorable.  If you miss it in the wrong place, you are absolutely dead.   There is plenty of undulation on the green complexes.  I was listening to a show describing them as relatively flat.  Certainly not how I remember them.  

 

 

 

 

Same.  I think what may be meant by 'not having to change the course to host a major' for WF basically means grow rough longer + make greens a bit faster.  I think its a very fair course from tee to green, even for mid handicappers.  

[JD3]

3 hours ago, hybrid25 said:

Weather report for New York

Coldest US open in history? Certainly in memory.

[Sixcat]

12 minutes ago, JD3 said:

Coldest US open in history? Certainly in memory.

Pebble Beach never reached the 70's last year.  It barely reached the 60's.  Here is a link to show the high temperatures for each day last year.

 

https://thegolfnewsnet.com/golfnewsnetteam/2019/06/10/2019-us-open-weather-forecast-shows-consistently-cool-temperatures-at-pebble-beach-115020/

Edited September 16, 2020 by Sixcat

[Hankshank]

17 minutes ago, JD3 said:

Coldest US open in history? Certainly in memory.

Perfect Golf Weather.

[Kilo1545]

I like Morikawa and his fade this week, assuming his putter shows up.

Edited September 16, 2020 by Kilo1545

[Poolparty]

Anyone know who this is?

 

Edited September 16, 2020 by Poolparty

[snagy2000]

Looks like Branden Grace.

[JD3]

4 hours ago, lchang said:

 

I wonder if the East course is quite a bit less challenging?  That's a nice thing for members.  I know that at Olympic Club, it's great to have the Lake course (which has hosted all those Opens) as well as the "easier" Ocean course.  Walking off the Lake course, it's common to feel tired and a bit beat-up.  Walking off the Ocean course, the usual sentiment is:  Let's play again!

east course is generally considered a "lighter touch", but mostly because it's shorter. its quite similar otherwise, and it actually has some forced carries that are more severe than anything on the west. 

[JDCON]

2 hours ago, Poolparty said:

Anyone know who this is?

 

That’s just about every person here. We all know the feeling.

[airjammer]

I will be curious to see how many ball spotters they will have and how many lost balls are declared. 
 

Could make for some insanely long rounds

[JD3]

1 minute ago, airjammer said:

I will be curious to see how many ball spotters they will have and how many lost balls are declared. 
 

Could make for some insanely long rounds

without fans wont be any trampled down areas either

[stingerfade]

5 hours ago, BobMorris said:

I can't help but think that this course setup is perfectly suited for a Webb Simpson victory.

I sure hope not 

[hybrid25]

3 hours ago, JD3 said:

Coldest US open in history? Certainly in memory.

Yes it is cooler than average, at least for US Open conditions, but I believe the golfers will just love the weather.

[dcfas]

On 9/14/2020 at 4:02 PM, tiderider said:

info normally found in a properly constructed thread, esp a major ... just sayin!:

TV

Thursday, September 17: 7:30 a.m.-2 p.m. ET (Golf Channel); 2-5 p.m. ET (NBC)
Friday, September 18: 9:30 a.m.-4 p.m. ET (Golf Channel); 4-7 p.m. ET (NBC)
Saturday, September 19: 11 a.m. -7:30 p.m. ET (NBC)
Sunday, September 20: 10 a.m.-12 p.m. ET (Golf Channel); 12-6 p.m. ET (NBC)

 

streaming

Thursday, September 17
First Round (TV coverage): 7:30 a.m.-2 p.m. ET (Golfchannel.com)
First Round (TV Coverage): 2-5 p.m. ET (NBCSports.com)
First Round (Online only): 5-7 p.m. ET (Peacock)
Featured Groups (Online only): 7:55 a.m.-6:30 p.m. ET (usopen.com)
Featured Holes (Online only): 8:10 a.m.-6:45 p.m. ET (usopen.com)

Friday, September 18
Second Round (Online only): 7:30-9:30 a.m. ET (Peacock)
Second Round (TV Coverage): 9:30 a.m.-4:00 p.m. ET (Golfchannel.com)
Second Round (Online only): 4-7 p.m. ET (NBCSports.com)
Featured Groups (Online only): 7:55 a.m.-6:30 p.m. ET (usopen.com)
Featured Holes (Online only): 8:10 a.m.-6:45 p.m. ET (usopen.com)

Saturday, September 19
Third Round (Online only): 9-11 a.m. ET (Peacock)
Third Round (Online only): 11 a.m.-7:30 p.m.ET (NBCSports.com)
Featured Groups (Online only): 8 a.m.-6:30 p.m. ET (usopen.com)
Featured Holes (Online only): 8:10 a.m.-6:45 p.m. ET (usopen.com)

Sunday, September 20
Final Round (Online only): 8-10 a.m. ET (Peacock)
Final Round (TV Coverage): 10 a.m.-12 p.m. ET (Golfchannel.com)
Final Round (Online only): 12-6 p.m.ET (NBCSports.com)
Featured Groups (Online only): 8 a.m.-5:30 p.m. ET (usopen.com)
Featured Holes (Online only): 8 a.m.-5 p.m. ET (usopen.com)

 

odds

Dustin Johnson 8-1
Jon Rahm 11-1
Rory McIlroy 12-1
Bryson DeChambeau 14-1
Justin Thomas 14-1
Xander Schauffele 18-1
Collin Morikawa 18-1
Patrick Cantlay 25-1
Hideki Matsuyama 28-1
Justin Rose 28-1
Tiger Woods 28-1
Webb Simpson 28-1
Jason Day 33-1
Daniel Berger 33-1
Tony Finau 33-1
Tommy Fleetwood 33-1
Adam Scott 35-1
Rickie Fowler 40-1
Scottie Scheffler 40-1
Patrick Reed 40-1
Tyrrell Hatton 50-1
Jordan Spieth 50-1
Viktor Hovland 50-1
Gary Woodland 50-1
Paul Casey 50-1
Harris English 60-1
Matthew Fitzpatrick 60-1
Sung-Jae Im 66-1
Marc Leishman 66-1
Matthew Wolff 66-1
Shane Lowry 80-1
Henrik Stenson 80-1
Abraham Ancer 80-1
Louis Oosthuizen 80-1
Cameron Champ 80-1
Francesco Molinari 80-1
Matt Kuchar 80-1
Phil Mickelson 80-1
Sergio Garcia 80-1
Cameron Smith 100-1
Joaquin Niemann 100-1
Billy Horschel 100-1
Si Woo Kim 100-1
Danny Willett 100-1
Brendon Todd 100-1
Martin Kaymer 125-1
Rafa Cabrera Bello 125-1
Ian Poulter 125-1
Bernd Wiesberger 125-1
Rasmus Hojgaard 125-1
Brandt Snedeker 125-1
Branden Grace 125-1
Adam Hadwin 125-1
Matt Wallace 125-1
Lee Westwood 125-1
Bubba Watson 125-1
Kevin Kisner 125-1

 

 

https://golf.com/news/winged-foot-club-champions-rooting-us-open/

 

https://www.lohud.com/story/sports/golf/usopen/2020/09/14/us-open-witnessing-massacre-winged-foot-shadow-hale-irwin/3462476001/

 

https://golf.com/travel/aw-tillinghast-legendary-course-architect-winged-foot/

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you for posting this. ?

[Frasier Crane]

agree the posters who mentioned Brendan Todd, Colin Morikawa, and Webb Simpson.... Mark Rolfing mentioned accuracy off the tee was at a premium. Todd, Morikawa, and Simpson are the 3 biggest names I saw at the top of driving accuracy stats.

[bscinstnct]

 

[Titleist99]

This USO is tailor made for Jon Rahm.

[bscinstnct]

9 minutes ago, Titleist99 said:

This USO is tailor made for Jon Rahm.

 

Possibly. But temperament is going to factor big, I would think. DJ seems the type to not get flustered by anything too much. Important if it’s a given that it’s going to be a constant struggle with a lot of bogeys no matter what you do. 

[OrangeGravy]

13 hours ago, freowho said:

I've been saying this for years. If you gave golfers the choice of a game at Winged Foot or the local suburban club 99% would choose Winged Foot. If after the game, they then get to choose a membership at Winged Foot or the local suburban club 99% would say not Winged Foot.

I'm the opposite. It'd be Winged Foot for both. Most of the  "best" and most satisfying rounds I've played have been 85-87 range on really difficult courses. I played way better Golf in those rounds than almost all of the rounds I've ever had in the 70's at other not so demanding places. I can't think of a better way to get better than playing a challenging course most of the time. I'd also feel much better about whatever number I'm playing off it was the result of playing a place like Winged Foot vs your typical local course

[OrangeGravy]

12 hours ago, bladehunter said:

Not BS. It’s a mindset.   Most people hate playing golf in the rain.  For whatever reason I love it.  I like “ grey “ days. I can see better.  I smile on tournament days whne it’s rainy. Why ?  My score isn’t going to change. But everybody else is pouting and beating themselves griping about the rain.    He’s saying that.  He’s loving the difficulty knowing he doesn’t have to go low.  All he has to do is survive.  Let everybody else kill themselves and then try to be out front on Sunday.   In other words he loves the difficulty.  Harder the better.   

I'm very similar. Probably why I'd prefer to play the toughest course possible (within reason length wise). I'm by no means a great or even good golfer at 10, but in difficult weather or tough course, I'm rarely gonna be worse than my regular bad round. I may not be able to have a good day by my normal standards, but my anti-cap ceiling doesn't change much if at all. Where as most other's will play significantly worse than they ever do in normal conditions or on a normal course. I love when the wind kicks up in my normal little money game at home. Everyone bitches and moans about it. I enjoy trying to figure it out. To me, difficult conditions takes pressure off and helps me let go of expectations. 

 

I also see way better on gray days vs high blue sky. Been that way since baseball days at the plate and in the field (outfielder). much more contrast against that gray backdrop. I can't see a golf ball past about 200yds on a bright sunny day. 

[Holy Moses]

Duval hasn't been on the evening "Live from the US Open." Has he been on the Golf Channel during the morning or afternoon or is he not there this week? 

[tiderider]

1 minute ago, Holy Moses said:

Duval hasn't been on the evening "Live from the US Open." Has he been on the Golf Channel during the morning or afternoon or is he not there this week? 

know i saw him at one time, but can't remember when ... had to have been in the afternoon/evening, though ...