Mitsubishi new MMT proto - September 2020

[tripleH]

@MITSUBISHI CHEMICAL does that mean I can provide my Aerotech Steelfiber 125CW to you and you will magically transform them into a set of MMT 125S. All joking aside. Looks like I have a reason to not sell my Apex combos I have listed on BST. Will definitely be buying a 4-9i to hardstep them in my 5-PW. Best news I have heard all week. Keep the stoke alive!

[rbilramz]

On 9/16/2020 at 9:54 AM, MITSUBISHI CHEMICAL said:

Apologies to all - I made a typo! MMT Taper 125S and MMT Taper 95S will be available towards the middle of October 2020!

Where is the 110?!?!  I currently play a Steelfiber 110S, which of the two coming in OCTOBER would you recommend.

[rbilramz]

On 9/16/2020 at 9:54 AM, MITSUBISHI CHEMICAL said:

Apologies to all - I made a typo! MMT Taper 125S and MMT Taper 95S will be available towards the middle of October 2020!

Where is the 110?!?!  I currently play a Steelfiber 110S, which of the two coming in OCTOBER would you recommend.

[rbilramz]

On 9/16/2020 at 9:54 AM, MITSUBISHI CHEMICAL said:

Apologies to all - I made a typo! MMT Taper 125S and MMT Taper 95S will be available towards the middle of October 2020!

Where is the 110?!?!  I currently play a Steelfiber 110S, which of the two coming in OCTOBER would you recommend.

[Valtiel]

On 9/16/2020 at 7:46 AM, Goldhawk said:

This seems a lot like Kuro Kage, but with a SS rather then Ti-Ni

Wonder of advantages of one over the other...

Similar overall concept, but very different construction I think. In the KK shafts, the TiNi wire are individual strands and there are only about 10 (17 for the Dual Core shafts) so they are supplemental to the structure of the tip. The MMT shafts however use a steel mesh it seems to actually form part of the tip structure, almost like being halfway between a Kuro Kage and a Grafalloy Bi-Matrix shaft. Cool stuff regardless. 

[nfreda2211]

7 hours ago, rbilramz said:

Where is the 110?!?!  I currently play a Steelfiber 110S, which of the two coming in OCTOBER would you recommend.

Why not the 105s that is already out?

[mizuno player]

On 9/16/2020 at 12:09 PM, QuigleyDU said:

The specs look very interesting. Mid launch low spin. I like that idea. 

 

The profile is pretty linear which "usually" equates to good feel and an even load. Slight bump at the tip in stiffness. Nice!!

 

 

Would this profile be a good replacement for PX? 

[QuigleyDU]

52 minutes ago, mizuno player said:

Would this profile be a good replacement for PX? 

possibly.
 

edit** This is the driver shaft profile just marking sure you knew that. 

Edited September 19, 2020 by QuigleyDU

[MITSUBISHI CHEMICAL]

On 9/17/2020 at 8:53 PM, rbilramz said:

Where is the 110?!?!  I currently play a Steelfiber 110S, which of the two coming in OCTOBER would you recommend.

We currently offer MMT 105S, which would be a great alternative to your current setup!

[Wardonation]

1 hour ago, MITSUBISHI CHEMICAL said:

We currently offer MMT 105S, which would be a great alternative to your current setup!

October for the 125S? I am fired up and my elbows thank you...

[mizuno player]

On 9/18/2020 at 10:35 PM, QuigleyDU said:

possibly.
 

edit** This is the driver shaft profile just marking sure you knew that. 

I did not know that. Thanks. 

[youngwaldo]

Very interested in the Diamana Thump for the irons.  Might have to give them a try next time around.  

 

Wk

[Wardonation]

@MITSUBISHI CHEMICAL Are we still looking Nov 1st for 125S MMT? If I get the new Callaway irons will they access to these as an upgrade? It looks like the MMT is "stock" option for them but only up to 105?

[nfreda2211]

On 9/16/2020 at 11:54 AM, MITSUBISHI CHEMICAL said:

Apologies to all - I made a typo! MMT Taper 125S and MMT Taper 95S will be available towards the middle of October 2020!

Haven’t seen them anywhere yet. Any update? 

[Z1ggy16]

@MITSUBISHI CHEMICAL I've heard the 125tx CPMs about a 7.0 on the rifle scale. I currently use X100, which isn't quite as stiff as that... When I demo'ed 125tx, I had trouble hitting my normal draw. Will the 125S be closer in stiffness to x100 or will you ever release a normal X flex?

[gioguy21]

2 minutes ago, Z1ggy16 said:

@MITSUBISHI CHEMICAL I've heard the 125tx CPMs about a 7.0 on the rifle scale. I currently use X100, which isn't quite as stiff as that... When I demo'ed 125tx, I had trouble hitting my normal draw. Will the 125S be closer in stiffness to x100 or will you ever release a normal X flex?

Zigs -- be mindful of your swing weight as well -- 

when you tested them, were they swingweighted the same?

[Z1ggy16]

3 minutes ago, gioguy21 said:

Zigs -- be mindful of your swing weight as well -- 

when you tested them, were they swingweighted the same?

Hey Gio!! Good question... Yep. It actually made my SW go down a little bit so I added just a touch of lead tape on the iron. However... I did actually soft step the shaft twice because I heard how stiff it was. Maybe that softening affect was giving me unintended results? I loved how it felt honestly... it didn't "feel" too stiff, but seeing 0% draw and mostly pushes had me thinking it was too much shaft for me.

[gioguy21]

2 minutes ago, Z1ggy16 said:

Hey Gio!! Good question... Yep. It actually made my SW go down a little bit so I added just a touch of lead tape on the iron. However... I did actually soft step the shaft twice because I heard how stiff it was. Maybe that softening affect was giving me unintended results? I loved how it felt honestly... it didn't "feel" too stiff, but seeing 0% draw and mostly pushes had me thinking it was too much shaft for me.

typically a shaft that's too much for you will either come out low or go left harder. what you'd do is compensate naturally and end up holding on to it and hitting those pushes. my thought is that its too much for you. you'd be better off going with a stiff or x and putting it straight in, no stepping to work best for you. 

[Z1ggy16]

2 hours ago, gioguy21 said:

typically a shaft that's too much for you will either come out low or go left harder. what you'd do is compensate naturally and end up holding on to it and hitting those pushes. my thought is that its too much for you. you'd be better off going with a stiff or x and putting it straight in, no stepping to work best for you. 

Yeah I think it just feels really good because of the construction but the TXG guys told me it cycles much closer to what a 7.0 would be, which is definitely too much for me.

 

Doesn't sound like an X flex is coming though right now? Just a stiff. I'd need to demo it for a while to see what kind of dispersion I'd end up with. I don't mind a little softer in irons since I don't always swing full out like on a tee shot... it just can't feel whippy or soft in the tip.

[bfizzy]

24 minutes ago, Z1ggy16 said:

Yeah I think it just feels really good because of the construction but the TXG guys told me it cycles much closer to what a 7.0 would be, which is definitely too much for me.

 

Doesn't sound like an X flex is coming though right now? Just a stiff. I'd need to demo it for a while to see what kind of dispersion I'd end up with. I don't mind a little softer in irons since I don't always swing full out like on a tee shot... it just can't feel whippy or soft in the tip.

 

Our dynamics are probably really different, but I went straight in for the 125TX from Modus 120TX and was a very easy transition.  The shafts are stout when you just try to bend them in your hands, but when you swing them I don't think it feels that way.  I'd potentially try going straight in vs SS and you could be pleasantly surprised.  

[halfsumo]

I have the 105 TX soft-stepped once. I think they are great for me, but the 125 Stiff might be even better. Coming from PX LZ 6.5's. Will look forward to the specs on the 125 stiff to see how different they are to the 105 TX. I tend to swing less aggressively with irons so if the 125 S is a touch softer, might be worth a look.

[JakeW13]

@MITSUBISHI CHEMICAL Any word on the woods release date for these shafts? Just put 125TX in all my irons and wedges, and kinda want to toy with the idea of a full MMT bag. Need the goods to be released though!

[Cruisin1966]

@MITSUBISHI CHEMICAL, similar question, but wouldn't mind an update on the MMT 120/125 stiff tapered iron shafts.  Like @JakeW13, I'd be willing to try a full back of MMT shafts

[Wardonation]

On 9/24/2020 at 10:18 AM, MITSUBISHI CHEMICAL said:

We currently offer MMT 105S, which would be a great alternative to your current setup!

@MITSUBISHI CHEMICAL Last time you stated Nov release for the 120/125 stiffs? Do we have an update to the update? lol... thanks just jonesin for these bad...

[phizzy30]

I've ordered a set of New Level 623-M irons with MMT 125 TX.  Look out for review sometime within the next 2 weeks, folks.  Been getting a lot of positive feedback from tbone18 and J13 and decided to pull the trigger. 

[kcc00629]

Interested in getting these in the stock offering of 105 on the x forged cb. Can anyone comment on the stiffness difference between the 105s and tx?

currently playing c taper lite x. Looking for high ball flight without ballooning. 
Swing 112 with driver. 

[halfsumo]

I am 105-108 driver and hit most modern lofted player.s irons 7 iron about 170. I have 105 tx soft stepped once and they are great. I think I could drop down to a stiff flex and be fine, but any stiffer and I’d be in trouble. I wanted the 105 TX because they are a bit heavier than the stiff flex.

[JakeW13]

On 11/25/2020 at 5:13 PM, phizzy30 said:

I've ordered a set of New Level 623-M irons with MMT 125 TX.  Look out for review sometime within the next 2 weeks, folks.  Been getting a lot of positive feedback from tbone18 and J13 and decided to pull the trigger. 

You won’t be disappointed. I game them in my blueprints.

[phizzy30]

11 hours ago, JakeW13 said:

You won’t be disappointed. I game them in my blueprints.

Took them out to the course for the second time earlier this week.  I thought my recoils had a lot of feel.  These are unreal.  My dispersion with irons has gotten better as well.  Normally, on my bad mishits the ball can curve quite a bit left with the recoils, but the MMT showed a tighter shot pattern.  Very happy with the results so far. 

[JakeW13]

7 minutes ago, phizzy30 said:

Took them out to the course for the second time earlier this week.  I thought my recoils had a lot of feel.  These are unreal.  My dispersion with irons has gotten better as well.  Normally, on my bad mishits the ball can curve quite a bit left with the recoils, but the MMT showed a tighter shot pattern.  Very happy with the results so far. 

 

It's so true. I was playing S300s last season and needed something to help bring my ball flight into a manageable window (was starting to lose irons in orbit, lol). The 125TXs are stout, but damn if they don't feel every bit as good as the S300s, I might even argue they feel better. Dispersion for me has also been fantastic, I'm seeing very little sidespin and super neutral flight. I said earlier in this thread that I could see myself playing MMT throughout the bag (minus driver probably).