Is there a bad piece of equipment out there???

[NoTalentLefty]

I speaking in hyperbolic. I see not one of the big OEM making bad equipment . It may not suit your eye or needs or wants but this is really the best lineups in all the years I’ve golfed. Now even the direct from factory clubs like hogan , PXG , sub 70, etc. are equal to if not greater . Even my wife’s starter set was better than most clubs in the 80s. Be glad young golf enthusiasts that you are playing in an age where science is more involved in equipment tech. 

[Myherobobhope]

Hard to disagree... plenty of good options for everything. 
 

the new trend towards cavity back wedge options is great... 

 

the only major gap I see in the market is a good two wood, but obviously it’s not in super high demand... personally I’d love a 300cc 13 degree wood... I’ve almost convinced myself to just buy a 13 degree driver and reshaft it, though.

[Gsea]

No bad equipment just bad swings ? now days

[cgasucks]

Competition is so fierce these days that all the major OEMS and even the DTC OEMs make stuff of top notch quality.  Boxed sets are a different story.

[NoTalentLefty]

My thinking , though I’m not saying it’s the only reason , a lot of credit for this was Ping , but now PXG sinking a ton of money into the back end with the tech . Bob Parson needs to be recognized for that, like Karsten was in the beginning with his scientific approach. 
 

By the way I do not use either Ping or PXG. If I could justify it I would go PXG. And even with the incentives it’s still too expensive to play being a once a week golfer. 

[Bubbtubbs]

Only boxed sets or gimmicky nonsense like chippers, really. 

 

Everything from a reputable manufacturer is game-able.

[scooterhd2]

I think there is some equipment that fails the uninformed golfer. Guys playing with 21 degree 5 irons, and 23 degree 4 hybrids and not knowing how far they hit either. 

[Sean2]

1 hour ago, cgasucks said:

Competition is so fierce these days that all the major OEMS and even the DTC OEMs make stuff of top notch quality.  Boxed sets are a different story.

I agree. They can't afford not to make good equipment. 

[LUXOR54]

2 hours ago, Myherobobhope said:

Hard to disagree... plenty of good options for everything. 
 

the new trend towards cavity back wedge options is great... 

 

the only major gap I see in the market is a good two wood, but obviously it’s not in super high demand... personally I’d love a 300cc 13 degree wood... I’ve almost convinced myself to just buy a 13 degree driver and reshaft it, though.

 

Try to find an X2Hot 2 deep head, it's only 210cc, but it's glorious

[Myherobobhope]

1 hour ago, NoTalentLefty said:

My thinking , though I’m not saying it’s the only reason , a lot of credit for this was Ping , but now PXG sinking a ton of money into the back end with the tech . Bob Parson needs to be recognized for that, like Karsten was in the beginning with his scientific approach. 
 

By the way I do not use either Ping or PXG. If I could justify it I would go PXG. And even with the incentives it’s still too expensive to play being a once a week golfer. 

How dare you! My member member partner played with a “chipper” and I’m the one who failed the team... granted I’m a six and shot 95, but his chipper worked! Once.

[Bubbtubbs]

26 minutes ago, scooterhd2 said:

I think there is some equipment that fails the uninformed golfer. Guys playing with 21 degree 5 irons, and 23 degree 4 hybrids and not knowing how far they hit either. 

True, but it's fairly simple to do an internet search and find the loft of virtually any club, so long as it isn't incredibly niche and from earlier than the 90's.

 

There's plenty of people who buy cars with forced induction and have no idea what a turbocharger is or how it works. That's hardly a failing of the manufacturer, though.

[QuigleyDU]

46 minutes ago, Bubbtubbs said:

Only boxed sets or gimmicky nonsense like chippers, really. 

 

Everything from a reputable manufacturer is game-able.

 

 

This is what I think as well. If you are up late at night and see an infomercial, stay away.

[PJE]

From the major manufacturers and from the well recognized Direct to Consumer outfits, everyone makes a good product. 

As far as designs, manufacturers can go down a rabbit hole, e.g., the SLDR driver.  Yeah it was great on center hits but for most people, it was absolutely punishing on anything but a center hit. 

Some of the designs, because manufacturers are chasing ball speed, have been prone to durablility issues, e.g, face slots caving in, etc, but it seems most of the designs with durability issues sustained the damage on mishits as opposed to strikes on the clubface center.

As far as equipment, these are great times to be a golfer.  I started playing golf prior to the advent of  metalwoods, graphite shafts in woods, and really advanced steel iron shafts.  R & D or improved technology  in clubs, and balls has really made the game a lot more fun. 

Edited September 15, 2020 by PJE

[getitdaily]

Yes...every putter out there is terrible.

 

 

 

 

Except the used anser milled I bought a few weeks ago. Glad it didn't sell on bst...didn't give it enough practice time.

[MattM97]

I think every major OEM is producing good equipment, but within all that there are models and setups that can be awful for you but the best club ever for someone else. That just means you need to find that right setup for you, so when someone says "oh I hit clubs x and it was awful but club y was amazing" take that with a big grain of salt. 

[Dr. Block]

The only bad equipment is the equipment that is not properly fit to your swing and specs 

Edited September 15, 2020 by Dr. Block

[PhilsFanDrew]

4 hours ago, getitdaily said:

Yes...every putter out there is terrible.

 

 

 

 

Except the used anser milled I bought a few weeks ago. Glad it didn't sell on bst...didn't give it enough practice time.

 

I wouldn't say every putter is terrible but I will say many putters are considerably overpriced for what they are actually bring to the table in terms of feel and performance. 

[getitdaily]

43 minutes ago, PhilsFanDrew said:

 

I wouldn't say every putter is terrible but I will say many putters are considerably overpriced for what they are actually bring to the table in terms of feel and performance. 

No, they're all terrible. They're designed to put the ball in the hole and they don't do it.

[LeoLeo99]

14 minutes ago, getitdaily said:

No, they're all terrible. They're designed to put the ball in the hole and they don't do it.

Whooosh.

[Hougz79]

6 hours ago, QuigleyDU said:

 

 

This is what I think as well. If you are up late at night and see an infomercial, stay away.

Also, if it shows up on your Facebook feed....move on....

[DallasSteve]

Totally agree on the putters; not a decent one out there except the ones in my opponents hands!

[sheppy335]

I feel they all make great equipment, top to bottom. It is a matter of picking what works and looks best to you. 

[dlow206]

23 hours ago, QuigleyDU said:

 

 

This is what I think as well. If you are up late at night and see an infomercial, stay away.

 

That Steadfast shaft wasn't good

[QuigleyDU]

48 minutes ago, dlow206 said:

 

That Steadfast shaft wasn't good

You got me... I didn't say I was immune. haha. 

[bonvivantva]

On 9/15/2020 at 4:36 PM, Dr. Block said:

The only bad equipment is the equipment that is not properly fit to your swing and specs 

 

I have a friend that bought a driver off craigslist that was the current year's model (at the time), but the shaft was an inch and a half short in stiff, but he is taller than I am with a grandpa speed swing.  Needless to say he's never hit it well.

 

The worst off the shelf club I've ever was another buddy's Nike Sasquatch.  It always sounded like a miss hit, and he would murder that thing into the trees every time.  I can't tell you how much time he spent in the woods looking for balls until he finally got a new driver.  I bet he gamed that club for three years.  I'm not exaggerating when I say he probably put less than half the balls he hit with that thing in play.