optifit settings

[zebra2955]

A little background. I have a Rogue and an epic driver. I went to swap shafts from the drivers, Same shaft different flex. When I put the shaft in the Epic I thought I was putting it in at my usual N-S setting. Didn't realize I had turned the head 180* so now the lines to align them are 180* apart. The head side is at D- +1  Is this the new actual setting. Or something else ?

I have been hitting the ball better at this setting. Or it's all in my head. 

[Peterman6068]

The optifit is nice because you can keep the grip in whatever position you want when changing settings. The setting you’re on is whatever is lined up with the vertical line. 

Edited September 20, 2020 by Peterman6068

[zebra2955]

That's my question. It is now lined up with only one line. The line on the head not the shaft. Basically I took the head and rotated it 180* from the 2 lines matching up 

[third-times-a-charm]

You’re doing it wrong. The head needs to line up with the line on the adapter as does the setting you wish to use. 
 

There’s no telling what’s actually happening if you are just rotating the head.

 

if you look at an optifit adapter the long part at the top is actually slanted slightly so the orientation is meant to be lined up with the line on it.

Edited September 20, 2020 by third-times-a-charm

[Adam C]

Why not just turn the shaft 180 and put back in? Unless the graphics are obnoxious, that will put things back to standard so you don't need to worry.

[zebra2955]

Ok maybe I'm explaining it wrong. I know how to set the adaptor. The problem is I didn't realize I put it in wrong and I'm hitting the ball really good. I would like to know if the settings on the back side is what I need to set it at or what else I can do

[nsxguy]

2 hours ago, zebra2955 said:

Ok maybe I'm explaining it wrong. I know how to set the adaptor. The problem is I didn't realize I put it in wrong and I'm hitting the ball really good. I would like to know if the settings on the back side is what I need to set it at or what else I can do

 

Personally if I was hitting it noticeably better I'd probably re-orient the shaft so that both lines were lined up at N/S. No biggie. Or just leave it alone. Can't believe the orientation of the shaft would make much, if any, difference in how it performs.

 

That said, there are those who swear by that same thing (pure-ing the shaft).

 

Surprised that you didn't notice the shaft's graphics being different when you set it up opposite of what you'd had before. Mine is "graphics down" but I got the shaft separately, not stock. I think, but am not sure, that Cally does the graphic down thing. Then again, most single adjustment shafts, when re-oriented, change how the graphics line up.

Edited September 20, 2020 by nsxguy

[zebra2955]

That is how I eventually noticed it by the label on my grip not facing up

[Shilgy]

If you are hitting it great why mess with it?  Or...call Callaway and explain to them where you have it and what setting it is on. They should be able to explain what the equivalent would be when the shaft is properly inserted into the clubhead.

Edited September 20, 2020 by Shilgy

[nsxguy]

8 minutes ago, Shilgy said:

If you are hitting it great why mess with it?  Or...call Callaway and explain to them where you have it and what setting it is on. They should be able to explain what the equivalent would be when the shaft is properly inserted into the clubhead.

 

Shouldn't the settings on the cogs (on the underside of course) be the correct settings regardless of the orientation of the shaft graphics/grip ?

 

I doubt Cally "pures" each shaft so they most likely do all their shafts the same; either graphics up or graphics down, no ? If that's the case the vertical line on the adaptor really doesn't mean anything other than "this will line the shaft up the same way every time", no ?

[Shilgy]

4 minutes ago, nsxguy said:

 

Shouldn't the settings on the cogs (on the underside of course) be the correct settings regardless of the orientation of the shaft graphics/grip ?

 

I doubt Cally "pures" each shaft so they most likely do all their shafts the same; either graphics up or graphics down, no ? If that's the case the vertical line on the adaptor really doesn't mean anything other than "this will line the shaft up the same way every time", no ?

But the vertical lines should match up. If you have it in upside down it is likely the equivalent of a righty using a left handed adapter. It’s bent the wrong way if it is inserted wrong.

[nsxguy]

2 minutes ago, Shilgy said:

But the vertical lines should match up. If you have it in upside down it is likely the equivalent of a righty using a left handed adapter. It’s bent the wrong way if it is inserted wrong.

 

I thought there were separate adaptors for left and right hand golfers. Or are the cogs just labeled differently for left and right handers thereby having to line up those lines for the cogs to give you the adjustments they show ?

[Shilgy]

Just now, nsxguy said:

 

I thought there were separate adaptors for left and right hand golfers. Or are the cogs just labeled differently for left and right handers thereby having to line up those lines for the cogs to give you the adjustments they show ?

There are separate adapters. That was my point. A righty can use a lefty adapter but the settings are reversed iirc. So lower is higher and vice versa. Inserting the shaft, actually inserting the adapter tip, incorrectly defeats the purpose.

[nsxguy]

41 minutes ago, Shilgy said:

There are separate adapters. That was my point. A righty can use a lefty adapter but the settings are reversed iirc. So lower is higher and vice versa. Inserting the shaft, actually inserting the adapter tip, incorrectly defeats the purpose.

 

But if a righty uses a lefty adapter and the settings are reversed then a righty using a righty adapter doesn't have the settings reversed, no ? 

 

I googled it and found a couple of videos where I confess I'm not sure of the correct answer. One of them though, with a UK guy, said the "golden rule" was to line up the hash marks,,,,,,,,,, but never explained why.  

 

(Disclaimer - I fast forwarded through much of the video looking for the explanation so I guess I could have missed it while he was explaining other things )

[Hack Daddy]

Not one person understands what OP is asking, lol.

 

He's saying - with the cogs in the current configuration, what is the loft/lie angle, as it sits with the shaft/cog lines at 180° of each other. 

[MattM97]

OP post some photos, it will make this go a lot easier.

[Shilgy]

11 minutes ago, Hack Daddy said:

Not one person understands what OP is asking, lol.

 

He's saying - with the cogs in the current configuration, what is the loft/lie angle, as it sits with the shaft/cog lines at 180° of each other. 

I did understand. Which I why my answer was I think they are reversed. Like a righty using a left adapter. He has it upside down. Which is why I suggested he contact Callaway and tell them where he has it set and what would be the correct settings when properly inserted with lines aligned.

[nsxguy]

11 minutes ago, Hack Daddy said:

Not one person understands what OP is asking, lol.

 

He's saying - with the cogs in the current configuration, what is the loft/lie angle, as it sits with the shaft/cog lines at 180° of each other. 

 

I think everybody knows what he's asking. The problem is we're not sure what the answer is. 

[Noodler]

This isn't a righty/lefty reversal.  Instead it's just the setting on the other side (180*) opposite.  So to duplicate the setting with the shaft oriented correctly, just match what you see on the opposite side.

[Noodler]

BTW - Here's a PSA, since this is an OptiFit thread.  Note that I have yet to find a single aftermarket OptiFit adapter that duplicates exactly the adjustments that the Callaway OEM adapter does.  I have measured many, and the OEM adapter is accurate and does what you would expect based on the marked settings.  I have found aftermarket adapters that actually never change the loft, but only the lie.  I have also found some that basically only modify the loft and lie by on a few tenths of a degree in each setting.  It's totally hit or miss.  So don't assume a shaft you bought off ebay or a cheaper OptiFit adapter being sold is doing what you think it should.

[zebra2955]

As you can see by the photo's the N-S  has one hash mark the other is on the side with the loft

[nsxguy]

4 hours ago, Noodler said:

This isn't a righty/lefty reversal.  Instead it's just the setting on the other side (180*) opposite.  So to duplicate the setting with the shaft oriented correctly, just match what you see on the opposite side.

 

We all know what the issue is with setting it correctly. Turn the entire shaft 180* leaving the cogs exactly as they are. That WILL be a N/S setting.

 

The question is actually, with the shaft as it is in the pics he just posted, what would the actual setting be ?

[zebra2955]

21 minutes ago, nsxguy said:

 

We all know what the issue is with setting it correctly. Turn the entire shaft 180* leaving the cogs exactly as they are. That WILL be a N/S setting.

 

The question is actually, with the shaft as it is in the pics he just posted, what would the actual setting be ?

Exactly 

Edited September 20, 2020 by zebra2955

[jpbova]

Wouldn't the correct setting always align with the lower hash?  Key 1 fits into key 2 and spits out setting for driver.  Since all the teeth on the upper adapter are the same it shouldn’t matter if it sits on the upper hash. 

Edited September 20, 2020 by jpbova

[Shilgy]

42 minutes ago, zebra2955 said:

Exactly 

Could be, I do not own a Callaway. But it did occur to me....didn’t  the Ping adapter a few years ago have a “secret” setting? The one on the flip side like this example was still neutral but more flat? Or was it upright?  Or I am just wrong lol. 

[Stuart_G]

With the Callaway adapters, the orientation of the shaft doesn't matter.   The only thing that matters is how the cogs align with the head.   So in the above picture, the setting is still D +1.     Keep the cogs the same and align the shaft any way you want and it wont change.  The line on the grip side is just to help align the grip correctly.

Edited September 21, 2020 by Stuart_G

[zebra2955]

3 hours ago, Stuart_G said:

With the Callaway adapters, the orientation of the shaft doesn't matter.   The only thing that matters is how the cogs align with the head.   So in the above picture, the setting is still D +1.     Keep the cogs the same and align the shaft any way you want and it wont change.  The line on the grip side is just to help align the grip correctly.

Thanks that was what I was looking for

[Noodler]

15 hours ago, Stuart_G said:

With the Callaway adapters, the orientation of the shaft doesn't matter.   The only thing that matters is how the cogs align with the head.   So in the above picture, the setting is still D +1.     Keep the cogs the same and align the shaft any way you want and it wont change.  The line on the grip side is just to help align the grip correctly.

 

That's what I originally thought.  Then I ran into some problematic aftermarket OptiFit adapters and tested whether the cogs from a known good adapter could be slipped on the bad one and fix the adjustability.  Unfortunately, it didn't work.  Now it could be that with correctly functioning adapters the shaft orientation doesn't matter; that definitely could be the case since I didn't specifically test that, so maybe I was making an incorrect assumption that the primary part of the adapter sleeve is integral to the changes to loft and lie when the cogs are moved, and therefore must be aligned correctly to the head.

[Stuart_G]

5 hours ago, Noodler said:

 

That's what I originally thought.  Then I ran into some problematic aftermarket OptiFit adapters and tested whether the cogs from a known good adapter could be slipped on the bad one and fix the adjustability.  Unfortunately, it didn't work.  Now it could be that with correctly functioning adapters the shaft orientation doesn't matter; that definitely could be the case since I didn't specifically test that, so maybe I was making an incorrect assumption that the primary part of the adapter sleeve is integral to the changes to loft and lie when the cogs are moved, and therefore must be aligned correctly to the head.

 

Interesting.   I've only worked with actual Callaway Adapters, not aftermarkets so can't speak to those.  But with the Callaway's, the measurements didn't change for me based on shaft orientation.   Never hurts to have someone double check if you want to give it a test.

 

[blackngold_blood]

Bumping an old thread here but I picked up a couple shafts and would like to get -2 on my loft. Can I purchase a green dot adapter and simply switch the cogs or do I need to pull the adapter and install the new one?