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I had been playing the gap wedge that came with my iron set for a very long time. Most recently PING g410 U, Callaway CF19 A and before that was a PING g25 U. These gap wedges were/are great on full shots. I play the g410 and CF19 to about 115-120 and the g25 was about 5 yds shorter to app 110-115.

 

I recently started playing around with my old Cleveland CG14 50*. It’s not as good for forgiveness on those full shots. It gives around 110-115 which is short compared to my newer stuff (g410/CF19) leaving a slight gap issue. That stated, the Cleveland had been much better around the greens. I believe this is mostly the thinner sole.

 

So, what is out there that would be more comparable to the g410 / CF19 gap wedges In forgiveness/ distance for full shots but with a the playability and thinner sole that is more consistent with the CG14 gap wedge?

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Callaway Mavrik MAX 15*
Taylor Made M4 19* & 22* hybrids
PING G410 5-U w/DG 105s 
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I would second the CBX2 wedges, very forgiving on full shots, playable on chips and pitch shots. I switched to these in the spring to gain some forgiveness on full shots. I definitely gained that and would recommend in that regard. The soles on these are a little wider, not as much as the irons you mentioned, but wider than the RTX line. They do have a grind to them so that helps with playability around the greens and from bunkers. My only complaint is that these don't feel as crisp on short shots. They're not bad, just not great. 

 

Also, the Ping glides are very forgiving on full shots as well. Would give either of those a try. 

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On 9/20/2020 at 8:37 AM, Cwing said:

I had been playing the gap wedge that came with my iron set for a very long time. Most recently PING g410 U, Callaway CF19 A and before that was a PING g25 U. These gap wedges were/are great on full shots. I play the g410 and CF19 to about 115-120 and the g25 was about 5 yds shorter to app 110-115.

 

I recently started playing around with my old Cleveland CG14 50*. It’s not as good for forgiveness on those full shots. It gives around 110-115 which is short compared to my newer stuff (g410/CF19) leaving a slight gap issue. That stated, the Cleveland had been much better around the greens. I believe this is mostly the thinner sole.

 

So, what is out there that would be more comparable to the g410 / CF19 gap wedges In forgiveness/ distance for full shots but with a the playability and thinner sole that is more consistent with the CG14 gap wedge?

 

The CG14 has significantly less bounce than any of the other wedges.  What looks like a "thin" sole is a tight leading edge.  It sits more flush with the ground than any of the others.  As a result, when it hits the ground, it digs - if you are a sweeper, picker or driver you will like the 8 bounce much more than the up to 13 bounce some of those iron wedges have.

 

A good choice to try would be a Vokey 50.08 F grind, in any of their lines post-red saw (even the sm4 has a 50.08 IIRC).  The F grind gives iron-like forgiveness ("fairway" grind) and it is low bounce, thin sole, tight edge like the CG14.  What you want is not necessarily a cavity back but the combination of no trail edge grind and no heel grind (So the metal is still there for forgiveness) and mid-bounce.

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6 hours ago, pinestreetgolf said:

 

The CG14 has significantly less bounce than any of the other wedges.  What looks like a "thin" sole is a tight leading edge.  It sits more flush with the ground than any of the others.  As a result, when it hits the ground, it digs - if you are a sweeper, picker or driver you will like the 8 bounce much more than the up to 13 bounce some of those iron wedges have.

 

A good choice to try would be a Vokey 50.08 F grind, in any of their lines post-red saw (even the sm4 has a 50.08 IIRC).  The F grind gives iron-like forgiveness ("fairway" grind) and it is low bounce, thin sole, tight edge like the CG14.  What you want is not necessarily a cavity back but the combination of no trail edge grind and no heel grind (So the metal is still there for forgiveness) and mid-bounce.

Thank you for that!!! 
 

I am definitely more of a sweeper.

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Callaway Epic MAX 10.5*
Callaway Mavrik MAX 15*
Taylor Made M4 19* & 22* hybrids
PING G410 5-U w/DG 105s 
Cleveland RTX 54* & 58*
Odyssey Stroke Lab Big Seven Toe Up vs MEZZ1 vs Seemore
Precision Pro Nx7 Pro, Garmin S60 (watch)


https://forums.golfwrx.com/discussion/1580770/recaps-the-taylormade-twistfaceexperience-7-golfwrx-members-visit-the-kingdom-for-an-exclusive-m3/p1

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New mizuno and callaway wedges are worth a look... personally, I’m going more forgiving, less friendly around the green in pw and gw and blade style wedges in sw and lw next season. I think.

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9 Callaway Mavrk Sub Zero with Ventus Black 7X

13 Degree Srixon 3 wood Project X Black 6.5

19 Degree Sub70 939 Pro with Proforce V2

4 Utility Sub70 699u 22 degree Proforce V2

5-GW Srixon Zx5 with Project X 6.5

Sub70 286 54

Sub70 JB Low Bounce 58

SeeMore milled Tri-Mallet fit and built at SeeMore 

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Update. I’m still using the Cleveland CG14 50* with two dots (8* bounce). It seems to be forgiving enough but doesn’t fly as long as the g410 U or CF19 A wedges. That stated, I can’t believe how much better around the greens this wedge plays.

Callaway Epic MAX 10.5*
Callaway Mavrik MAX 15*
Taylor Made M4 19* & 22* hybrids
PING G410 5-U w/DG 105s 
Cleveland RTX 54* & 58*
Odyssey Stroke Lab Big Seven Toe Up vs MEZZ1 vs Seemore
Precision Pro Nx7 Pro, Garmin S60 (watch)


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