Who are the European golf tour announcers...

[Outpost31]

...at the Dubai duty free irish open? 

 

Thanks! 

[golfortennis]

Sounds like Dominick Holyer, Wayne Riley, Richard Boxhall, Andrew Coltart, Iona Stephen. 

 

Likely missing some and might have misspelled a name or two.

[Dr. Block]

NBC and CBS should do a foreign exchange program with the European Tour.  I always enjoy the announcing when I catch a Euro event on the golf channel, maybe our big money jocks could learn a thing or two. 

Edited September 24, 2020 by Dr. Block

[tbowles411]

6 minutes ago, Dr. Block said:

NBC and CBS should do a foreign exchange program with the European Tour.  I always enjoy the announcing when I catch a Euro event on the golf channel, maybe our big money jocks could learn a thing or two. 

Agreed.  No side stories.  No update on their puppy or what their favorite food is, just golf.  I like that.

[Dr. Block]

2 minutes ago, tbowles411 said:

Agreed.  No side stories.  No update on their puppy or what their favorite food is, just golf.  I like that.

I also like how they keep the old school rhythms. They can time their dialogue around the players executing the shots.  Ben Wright was a master at that, he could set the mood for a shot then go silent while the player hit it.  Not sure when the announcers on the PGA Tour gave up on that level of professionalism, but its gone, and I find it grating at times.  

[Ferguson]

 

3 minutes ago, Dr. Block said:

I also like how they keep the old school rhythms. They can time their dialogue around the players executing the shots.  Ben Wright was a master at that, he could set the mood for a shot then go silent while the player hit it.  Not sure when the announcers on the PGA Tour gave up on that level of professionalism, but its gone, and I find it grating at times.  

 

 

Same with Renton Laidlaw.   He was a class act. 

They care about their craft. 

 

 

 

The PGA guys just want to be "heard."   

 

"Listen to us, we're so smart, my name is Bones and this is Paul Azinger, we are the epitome of the Dunning-Kruger effect."  

 

 

[Dr. Block]

3 minutes ago, Ferguson said:

 

 

 

Same with Renton Laidlaw.   He was a class act. 

They care about their craft. 

 

 

 

The PGA guys just want to be "heard."   

 

"Listen to us, we're so smart, my name is Bones and this is Paul Azinger, we are the epitome of the Dunning-Kruger effect."  

 

 

Well put.  They did care about their craft. I spend a lot of time on YouTube watching golf tournament footage from that era.  It's odd how much it's changed, the approach to announcing. Sometimes I wonder why its changed so much. Is it new producers? Network executives thinking a new style is more relevant or needed? Or is just laziness?    

 

The Dunning-Kruger effect, that sent me to the old google machine, that's an interesting clinical assessment.  I always seem to learn a thing or two from your posts my friend.  

[Ferguson]

8 minutes ago, Dr. Block said:

Well put.  They did care about their craft. I spend a lot of time on YouTube watching golf tournament footage from that era.  It's odd how much it's changed, the approach to announcing. Sometimes I wonder why its changed so much. Is it new producers? Network executives thinking a new style is more relevant or needed? Or is just laziness?    

 

The Dunning-Kruger effect, that sent me to the old google machine, that's an interesting clinical assessment.  I always seem to learn a thing or two from your posts my friend.  

 

Thanks.  My pleasure. 

 

 

 

The guys from back in that era knew their job was to accompany the coverage and help the viewer gain perspective about the golf hole and what shot the player was hitting by saying just enough.

 

Keeping one's mouth shut is an art form lost on the announcers of today. 

    

 

 

[jordan2240]

I don't know who any of them are, but I prefer all of them to the U.S. announcers (though I think 'Bones' does a fine job).

[mocokid]

7 hours ago, Ferguson said:

 

Thanks.  My pleasure. 

 

 

 

The guys from back in that era knew their job was to accompany the coverage and help the viewer gain perspective about the golf hole and what shot the player was hitting by saying just enough.

 

Keeping one's mouth shut is an art form lost on the announcers of today. 

    

 

 

Nuff said summerall and brookshier and a fifth of scotch on a crisp autumn Sunday. 

[Outpost31]

Thanks all... I turned golf on early and caught the Dubai Irish and was amazed at how good the announcing was. I'm definitely going to start watching more of the European tour. 

[Liverpoolphil]

They're commentators to us, I must agree... Give me the Beebs team over Nantz, Mcord etc any day. Although we do get Butch Harmon and Azinger doing some co comms during the Open, they seem OK.

[elwhippy]

Coltart is a class act. Wayne Riley is a living legend. 

[mahonie]

I still miss the Alex Hay/Peter Alliss combo...pure genius.

[bladehunter]

I’ve preceded the euro tour in general for years.  The style play is better too. 

[bscinstnct]

Euro announcers be like

 

 

[elwhippy]

Peter Alliss is a living legend. Alex Hay was a complete snob a la Longhurst. Radar played in Pro Am events at my club along with Lee, Boxall and Feherty. They were all characters unlike the modern robots. 

[cliche]

On 9/24/2020 at 8:54 PM, tbowles411 said:

Agreed.  No side stories.  No update on their puppy or what their favorite food is, just golf.  I like that.

i think the manners of the announcers and crowd are much more golf orientated then in the US. Like tbowles said, they care more about a puppy story or if van rooyen hasn't got cold ankles in his pants. and don't get me started about the US crowd shouting at every single shot ?

[milesgiles]

Radar is always happy to chat with the crowd, we were distracting him with the cricket World Cup last year at Renaissance..

 

Coltart and Dougherty are a good team. 

[The Aspidistra in the Hall]

Frank Chirkinian wouldn't have stood for it, best sports producer CBS ever had. Reported to have said to a pair of golf 'announcers', 'Shut up, you ain't saying anything interesting anyhow'. How true that would be in today's US golf coverage.

Where are the Chirkinians and, for that matter the Doebereiners (now, he could write), of yesteryear?

[mahonie]

28 minutes ago, The Aspidistra in the Hall said:

Frank Chirkinian wouldn't have stood for it, best sports producer CBS ever had. Reported to have said to a pair of golf 'announcers', 'Shut up, you ain't saying anything interesting anyhow'. How true that would be in today's US golf coverage.

Where are the Chirkinians and, for that matter the Doebereiners (now, he could write), of yesteryear?

 

Good call!

 

Dobereiner stoked my early passion for the game. I still have my copy of ‘Glorious World of Golf’ next to the bed and dive back in regularly to re-read my favourite parts.

[Greg_B]

49 minutes ago, The Aspidistra in the Hall said:

Frank Chirkinian wouldn't have stood for it, best sports producer CBS ever had. Reported to have said to a pair of golf 'announcers', 'Shut up, you ain't saying anything interesting anyhow'. How true that would be in today's US golf coverage.

Where are the Chirkinians and, for that matter the Doebereiners (now, he could write), of yesteryear?

 

I believe it was in Ben Wright's book that he recounted the story of joining CBS golf and being chewed out by Chirkinian the first time he mistakenly spoke while a player was being shown making a shot. It was one of his doctrines that you never did that on one of his broadcasts. Someone should tell that to Nick Faldo.

[Ferguson]

I remember hearing Joe Buck call a golf tourney for the first time. 

 

 

After two minutes, I went into the spare bedroom said 10 Hail Marys, 10 Our Fathers and prayed for the TV producers that allowed Joe Buck the privilege of calling golf to use better judgement next time.   

[golfortennis]

7 hours ago, The Aspidistra in the Hall said:

Frank Chirkinian wouldn't have stood for it, best sports producer CBS ever had. Reported to have said to a pair of golf 'announcers', 'Shut up, you ain't saying anything interesting anyhow'. How true that would be in today's US golf coverage.

Where are the Chirkinians and, for that matter the Doebereiners (now, he could write), of yesteryear?

 

I don't know, it seems like TV people think this is what the viewers want.  I think they think every sport should be like football or hockey, and that people want Gus Johnson types where a player making a layup to make 6-4 in the 1st half is a scream-worthy moment of excitement.

 

 

[JDCON]

If we’re going to have British announcers, can we have Jimmy Carr?

[milesgiles]

37 minutes ago, JDCON said:

If we’re going to have British announcers, can we have Jimmy Carr?

 

I vote  Alan Partridge 

[seis]

Resurrect Renton Laidlaw, (sorry if he is not departed yet). Loved him.

[iBanesto]

Paul McGinley joined the commentary group this week.

 

Very well spoken and adds value through his commentary.

Edited September 27, 2020 by iBanesto

[elwhippy]

McGinley says a lot but with little substance. John Hawksworth is awesome but not on at the moment. Trish Johnston and Tony Johnstone are both excellent commentators. 

[Ferguson]

Renton Laidlaw - on the Old Course

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJyxBUJdRLM