KHT Autoflex shaft

[jgard320]

10 hours ago, leftytj said:

Just wait.  Sure there will be a couple in the classified !!!!

That’s the only reason I took the chance here. I know there’s going to be someone out there who will want to try it if it doesn’t work for me, and eventually, it will work for someone if not me. 

[leftytj]

1 hour ago, jgard320 said:

That’s the only reason I took the chance here. I know there’s going to be someone out there who will want to try it if it doesn’t work for me, and eventually, it will work for someone if not me. 

ill give it a try if u don’t like it 

[jgard320]

Looks like it’s already at my regional center and scheduled for 12 pm delivery tomorrow. That was fast. Going to play it this Saturday on the course and see how it goes. 

[NghiaSS]

First impression: very high quality shaft. It is whippy like a fish rod but feels very comfortable and firm. Currently put on cobra speedzone xtreme, weight D1 like recommend

 

Will hit the range this afternoon

Edited November 3, 2020 by NghiaSS

[jgard320]

Looking forward to hearing your feedback.

[TBD203]

How responsive were they when you emailed them? Been a few days and haven't heard anything.

[jgard320]

6 hours ago, TBD203 said:

How responsive were they when you emailed them? Been a few days and haven't heard anything.

No response over the weekends, and usually the guy who responded to me gets back within a day or two. Took about 4 days initially.

[jgard320]

Package arrived today. Very good presentation by the company in putting it together. Comes in a nice velvet sleeve. Shaft is very light and felt almost brittle at first, and it is extremely flexible. Seems like it has the most give by the tip and the butt end seems relatively stable. Craftsmanship is very high end and the shaft looks great.

 

Dropped it off to my club builder and he’s going to check some cpm measurements to get an idea of how it bends. I should have some feedback by Saturday. 

[NghiaSS]

So I took it to the range (toptracer), quite a windy day and Toptracer for me usually gives a bit of slower ball speed than in golf course. 

 

I have to admit that I don't have the highest speed in the world but early result for comparison purpose quite favors the Autoflex to the Ventus Blue Velocore shaft (cobra speedzone xtreme head). 

 

Average ball speed for Ventus Blue for me was around 134 while the Autoflex sf405 (for my swing speed of 95-98mph) averages 142 (around 8mph gain for ball speed) - check below pics for comparision

 

One thing I noticed was the tighter dispersion. If I hit fairway consistently of 240-250 on the golf course then I am set. 

 

 

 

Edited November 4, 2020 by NghiaSS

[jgard320]

12 hours ago, NghiaSS said:

So I took it to the range (toptracer), quite a windy day and Toptracer for me usually gives a bit of slower ball speed than in golf course. 

 

I have to admit that I don't have the highest speed in the world but early result for comparison purpose quite favors the Autoflex to the Ventus Blue Velocore shaft (cobra speedzone xtreme head). 

 

Average ball speed for Ventus Blue for me was around 134 while the Autoflex sf405 (for my swing speed of 95-98mph) averages 142 (around 8mph gain for ball speed) - check below pics for comparision

 

One thing I noticed was the tighter dispersion. If I hit fairway consistently of 240-250 on the golf course then I am set. 

 

 

 

Interesting that your launch dropped since it seem opposite of what is happening elsewhere. Looks like you have one max ball speed that is 3 mph higher than the max ball speed for the Ventus. With your dispersion reportedly better, it looks like you’re seeing an increased consistency and better overall ball speed because of that. That seems to be consistent with what I’ve heard as well. Are the shafts the same length and did you do anything to the heads to offset the shaft weight change? It looks like you might have found something good here that could potentially be great with more tinkering. 

[NghiaSS]

2 hours ago, jgard320 said:

Interesting that your launch dropped since it seem opposite of what is happening elsewhere. Looks like you have one max ball speed that is 3 mph higher than the max ball speed for the Ventus. With your dispersion reportedly better, it looks like you’re seeing an increased consistency and better overall ball speed because of that. That seems to be consistent with what I’ve heard as well. Are the shafts the same length and did you do anything to the heads to offset the shaft weight change? It looks like you might have found something good here that could potentially be great with more tinkering. 

I think the launch drop due to the fact that the feel of the shaft changes the way I swing a lil bit. Will have to try another day to get a better launch. Do you have any tip on consistent positive angle of attack? I still feel I hit down on the ball too much.

 

Also for max ball speed, I got around 150 for Autoflex, and it feels easier to achieve that. For Ventus, I get around 144 - 145 on very good swing (the pics were for the first 5 -6 shots only)

 

I put shaft at a slightly longer (total length 45.75; ventus was 45.25), weight at D1.

 

I didn't know what the club builder did, it just happen to be like that, lol

 

 

 

 

Edited November 4, 2020 by NghiaSS

[jgard320]

My advice would be to not chase a specific angle of attack so long as your swing is fundamentally sound. If you aren’t getting ideal launch conditions, that’s where you can tinker with the head. If your head is adjustable, bump it up a degree or two, or if you have adjustable weight, move it around, add, or remove weight, and just fine tune until you find a sweet spot that idealizes your launch. It sounds like the shaft is having a positive impact on your ball speed and impact location, so fine tuning could make a good difference. 

[TBD203]

Have those of you gaming these at the moment gotten any more rounds in? Very interested in this shaft and I’m looking to sell myself on it.

[My2Dogs]

Someone messaged me yesterday I believe (sorry it’s been crazy as I had kidney surgery Tuesday and i had complications).  Anyway took the shaft out with a Rogue SZ I had on Sunday before surgery for my last round of the year.  Only Cally head left I didn’t have hot melt added to for weight.  It fit into the SW they recommend.  I played both the Rogue SZ with AutoFlex and my custom Mavrik with Ventus Black 6X.

 

as I stated and others stated, when waggling it, it’s just not the norm and feels strange.  Also the weight is much lighter than I’m used to and switching back and forth with the Mavrik/Ventus combo took a few holes to get squared away. On a couple holes at first the Ventus was the clear winner.  My usual flight (little shorter due to the pain I was going to have surgery for) slight draw or straight.  AutoFlex I kept turning too quickly on.

 

once I got used to the weight difference the AutoFlex was longer and straighter.  Also launch was higher and all carry as the course was wet.  Ventus did give some roll due to a lower flight but the AutoFlex was longer.  When struck well, dead straight.  Almost scary straight, splitting the fairway.  The last few holes I was tiring out and hurting so I pulled the last 2 shots.  Not the shaft or heads fault but all me.  I have a regular Mavrik coming that matches the weight I need. Will be late Dec or early Jan before I can hit again as I have another surgery set for 2 weeks and then they go in early Dec to fix my right kidney.  
 

can’t wait to test it out with the Mavrik and if it doesn’t work, I’ll be looking to sell or try a Sim with the proper weight to get within the SW they recommend.  
 

I did try and go lighter and heavier with the Rogue SZ by changing out the weights but when it fell within their D1.5-D2.5 is when the shaft performed the best.  Heavier gets too squirrely and misses are both sides.  Lighter and I kept turning it over too much.   

Edited November 6, 2020 by My2Dogs
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[NghiaSS]

Went to the course today, 260-270 yards driver is the new normal for me. Yay. The shot are straight. Out of all driver hit today, not even 1 is slice. Some even went to the left lol! It may also be me changing my swing, but the lighter weight may help. 

 

Let just say it helps find the fairway quite easily.

Edited November 6, 2020 by NghiaSS

[jgard320]

That was an interesting experience. I played it at full length. With an aggressive move, I couldn’t square it up and hit it all over the place. I’m an upper 110s guy usually and to hit that square, I had to really slow down my swing. Until I slowed down, I either pushed it right or hooked it. On performance, for me I have to give it an incomplete. 46.5” is way too long of a shaft for me. 
 

On feel, this is a damn good shaft. It waggles like crazy and looks like the rubber pencil magic trick when you just wag the head. But no matter how hard I swung, it immediately stiffened up in the downswing and never felt soft. As far as that goes, the shaft does what it says. I let a few people hit it and they all reported the same thing. I honestly believe anyone could play this shaft so long as it’s fitted properly. There’s definitely something to the tech behind it.

 

I’m going to have to give myself a real fitting at a proper length to see if it actually makes a real difference. As of now, my gamer is better because I can square a 45” driver better. I’ll cut this down and fit my club to my usual specs before giving up on it, but I’m not going to be the type of player who gains speed and control at 47” like Matt on TXG did. 
 

 

Edited November 10, 2020 by jgard320

[Kevmonton]

On 10/24/2020 at 7:11 PM, My2Dogs said:

Today less but again it wasn’t a good day to measure being consistent as I was missing with all my clubs today.  Just wasn’t striking it well with anything. 

If you have a friend with the same head without the hot melt it would be interesting to see if you could achieve the manufacturer's preferred swing weight and if there was any difference in performance because of that.  I remember Ian saying something like this shaft would not perform in a PING because of the head weight.

[chocolate_rehab]

I'm definitely going to try one of these, just not sure if I'll wait for BST or order one from S. Korea.

[NghiaSS]

A little update after 3 rounds of golf and 2 range session

 

Finally got a grip of this shaft. I believe my swing changed for the better (more stable, more positive angle of attack), partly because of the lighter shaft; and more confidence.

 

The round I had yesterday was awesome, all my golf partners said that my driver shot were better than ever (260 yards distance, with one or two strikes reached 280; compare to the previous rounds which I had about 240-250 on very good shots on the old ventus shaft). The shots were 80% on fairway; the miss hits were mostly left (compare to my usual slice to the right, and I believe because I turned my upper body too fast); for 1 shot I hit the car on the left side driving on the street (lol), but luckily hit the bumper, not the window, and the driver were cool about it.

 

I feel with the lighter shaft, I can move about and swing a little bit faster and don't need to worry about club head too much. I'm quite happy with the purchase.

 

 

 

 

Edited November 9, 2020 by NghiaSS

[chocolate_rehab]

Thank you for the update and the feedback! Keep it coming everyone. What head is everyone using on this?

 

Can someone PM me with the dealer contact info? Much appreciated. 🙂

 

[TBD203]

I have no self control, so I’m gonna get one. Think I’ll try and Sim head in it to start. 

[MoeB]

I have a customer that has one on loan, SF505 X, but he could not trim it; built it to 47" in a Rogue head.  His clubhead speed is 110+ and he carried it 280.  I hit it during the round, not optimized for me, clubhead speed 87.  I hit it 10-30 yards longer and hit almost every fairway.  High dollar shaft that appears to accomplish what it claims!

[outgolfing]

Well crap...one popped up on eBay and I couldn’t resist.  I have access to a gcquad so when it arrives I’ll give you guys some feedback.  

[shaolingolfer]

Getting mine through TXG and going to be paired with my Sim.  The shaft prefer lighter head weight, thinking about putting a Jumbo Max Lite on it to push the swing weight back up.

 

I experimented with Jumbo Max Lite before and I like how it feel but it make the sw of my driver to E1 which is just too much for me.

[gsrjc]

6 hours ago, shaolingolfer said:

Getting mine through TXG and going to be paired with my Sim.  The shaft prefer lighter head weight, thinking about putting a Jumbo Max Lite on it to push the swing weight back up.

 

I experimented with Jumbo Max Lite before and I like how it feel but it make the sw of my driver to E1 which is just too much for me.

What did you do to get it from TXG?

[chocolate_rehab]

Another TXG video on it:

 

 

[shaolingolfer]

3 hours ago, gsrjc said:

What did you do to get it from TXG?

They have a batch of shaft they got from the manufacture and we have like approx. 1 week to get on the list and they will also help with some online fitting also.  That's from several weeks back.

[leftytj]

Does it look like Phil is testing a autoflex shaft on the range ?   

[leftytj]

1 minute ago, leftytj said:

Does it look like Phil is testing a autoflex shaft on the range ?   

He has 2 different drivers on the range !!  Watching him on the range now on golf channel 

[chocolate_rehab]

I broke down and ordered one, damn this board. I would love to use a PXG head, but will investigate because I want to stay within the D1 - D 1.5 range they suggest.

 

47" is too long for me, but I would be willing to try 46" and go from there.