Heavy Head - Club Building Options

[BobBadger]

I'm in need of some advice. I've got a heavy 3 wood head that I want to reshaft. However when I've done a dry build the swing weight comes out as D6. While I'm not massively worried about swing weight this seems on the heavy side. Head weighs 221g  grip 50g, shaft Fubuki alpha @70g.

 

What are my options to get swing weight back to 'normal'?   Higher balance point/counter balance shaft eg Fubuki zt? Butt end weight, does this work does it only trick the scales? 

 

Or should I just not worry about it?

 

Thanks all

[toddmanley]

I sometimes get caught up with this same dilemna as my shafts are +2".  I'd say give the club a build and see how it performs.  Adding a heavier grip afterwards is an easy fix to "trick" the scales.

[DaveGoodrich]

Swing weight is a somewhat arbitrary thing.  You might want to just try it, and see how it feels/performs for you.    

 

That is essentially a 5 wood head weight, so you could shorten the build to 5 wood length, which would bring your swing weight down a few points, but that may not be what you want.  You could investigate whether someone added hot melt inside the head, and remove it, if so.    Butt weight/heavier grip will just "fool the scale."  It will make the club heavier overall, but the head will still feel "too heavy" when swinging (if that is how it feels now).   

 

I am not too familiar with counterbalanced shafts, so someone else can chime in on whether or not they are also just "fooling the scale."  I suppose they can distribute the weight along the shaft in a more subtle way than just adding weight to the grip end.  It still seems to me that, if the problem really is too heavy a head for the length you want to play, then adding more weight somewhere else on the club really won't be the answer.  

 

 

[swgolf12]

What kind of head? Guessing this is a head you can't adjust the weights on? If it's a TM with adjustable hosel, the newer sleeve only ways 5 grams compared to 7 grams of the older ones, that could help a smidge.

[Nessism]

6 hours ago, BobBadger said:

I'm in need of some advice. I've got a heavy 3 wood head that I want to reshaft. However when I've done a dry build the swing weight comes out as D6. While I'm not massively worried about swing weight this seems on the heavy side. Head weighs 221g  grip 50g, shaft Fubuki alpha @70g.

 

What are my options to get swing weight back to 'normal'?   Higher balance point/counter balance shaft eg Fubuki zt? Butt end weight, does this work does it only trick the scales? 

 

Or should I just not worry about it?

 

Thanks all

 

D6 isn't overly high.  Can you trim the shaft length a little?  

[Howard_Jones]

220 grams head weight on a wood is where we expect to see a 5W head, and they are most often 42.00" long. Its not unusual for 3W players to go 42.50" so if head weight turns out to be higher than wanted and you cant reduce it, going shorter is your option.

This DIY driver tune up is written for Drivers, but everything about play length, shaft weight and head weight is the same for all full swing clubs. You do NOT have to cut anything to try it off, and depending on how much that shaft is tip trimmed now, you might want to take some or all from the tip if you find it needed to go shorter

https://forums.golfwrx.com/topic/960350-diy-driver-tune-up-diy-fitting/'

[BobBadger]

Thanks guys, that's excellent information and just what I needed. 

[Howard_Jones]

On 9/29/2020 at 12:36 AM, DaveGoodrich said:

Swing weight is a somewhat arbitrary thing.  You might want to just try it, and see how it feels/performs for you.    

 

That is essentially a 5 wood head weight, so you could shorten the build to 5 wood length, which would bring your swing weight down a few points, but that may not be what you want.  You could investigate whether someone added hot melt inside the head, and remove it, if so.    Butt weight/heavier grip will just "fool the scale."  It will make the club heavier overall, but the head will still feel "too heavy" when swinging (if that is how it feels now).   

 

I am not too familiar with counterbalanced shafts, so someone else can chime in on whether or not they are also just "fooling the scale."  I suppose they can distribute the weight along the shaft in a more subtle way than just adding weight to the grip end.  It still seems to me that, if the problem really is too heavy a head for the length you want to play, then adding more weight somewhere else on the club really won't be the answer.  

 

 

Very short about counterbalanced shafts or more correct,. shafts with a high balance point.
If you look at weight specs, you will notice that they are "the same" as their other models, so this is NOT shafts where they just took a shaft model and added weight on the butt side. Whats done in the design is to REMOVE resin and weight from the tip side to make that part lighter, and move that weight to the butt side to partly counter-weight it so its TIP LIGHT - BUTT HEAVY combined that makes the difference, and its not tricking the scale.

If we on the other hand took a standard model and put on a Jumbo grip to counter-weight our club, we would have gone UP on Total weight, and the tip side of the shaft would still be "standard", it did not become any lighter, so our "home made CW balanced club" will for sure be a heavy beast compared to the concept we tried to copy.

We can only make this work when we keep Total wgt the same, and redistribute that weight, we are NOT doing the same when we just add (grip) weight. (tip side remains "heavy" and we cant "fix" that, we would have to start from a lower weight start option to make it) 

As example a shaft like Grafalloy Prolaunch Supercharged is mid 60 grams just like PL Blue 65 is, but the Supercharged version "looks like" its made using a PL 45 tip to fulcrum, with a PL 85 butt section  (tip light - butt heavy, still the same total as the standard model)

Edited October 1, 2020 by Howard_Jones