Nippon NSPRO MODUS3 Tour 115 Iron Shafts - Regular and 10th Anniversary Verison

[StillCantPutt]

16 minutes ago, BirdieBob said:

 

 

Interesting data.  It appears the ball speed was significantly less with the Modus and 115 compared to the LS?  So you were not able to time those shafts as well as the LS being a more aggressive swing and that is the reason for the lower ball speed?

Of course the rest of the data is all related to this ball speed difference.

 

I have two sets of irons with both the 115 and LS but have not tried those shafts out yet.  The TW blades have the LS and the P770 have the 115.  Will be interesting to see what transpires with these.  

 

It’s hard to say, they felt “good” and I felt like some strikes were great but the numbers said otherwise. Just didn’t get along with them, no rhyme or reason that I can say with confidence. Again, it’s too bad because they are purdyyyyyy

[BirdieBob]

31 minutes ago, StillCantPutt said:

It’s hard to say, they felt “good” and I felt like some strikes were great but the numbers said otherwise. Just didn’t get along with them, no rhyme or reason that I can say with confidence. Again, it’s too bad because they are purdyyyyyy

 

Yeah, the LS probably just had the stiffer center section and you were able to swing harder without worry timing wise.

 

Since you used the same 0311T G3 8 iron, did you check the loft after switching shafts?  There can be some difference in loft upon pulling/installing shaft...just curious especially since the PXG bore is 0.370 vs the 0.355 shaft tips...can be some variation in loft/lie upon install.  But if done correctly with a collared ferrule and maybe a shaft shim should be close.

Edited November 29, 2020 by BirdieBob

[StillCantPutt]

9 hours ago, BirdieBob said:

 

Yeah, the LS probably just had the stiffer center section and you were able to swing harder without worry timing wise.

 

Since you used the same 0311T G3 8 iron, did you check the loft after switching shafts?  There can be some difference in loft upon pulling/installing shaft...just curious especially since the PXG bore is 0.370 vs the 0.355 shaft tips...can be some variation in loft/lie upon install.  But if done correctly with a collared ferrule and maybe a shaft shim should be close.

I did use the correct ferrule and PXG tip/shim and still checked loft and lie afterwards. Same. 

[vq6shadow]

On 11/29/2020 at 10:26 AM, StillCantPutt said:

It’s hard to say, they felt “good” and I felt like some strikes were great but the numbers said otherwise. Just didn’t get along with them, no rhyme or reason that I can say with confidence. Again, it’s too bad because they are purdyyyyyy

I looked at the specs of the LS and I think you got exactly what the numbers say should have happened. The LS is heavier by 5-6 gms, launches low with low spin and it's marketed for aggressive swingers.  It just doesn't look as good doing it. 

[Puttersaurus Rex]

Any early review updates?

[MPG]

I just put these into my PXG Gen 3 0311T irons and played one round so far.   I have these installed from 4 - 58* wedge (they are NOT the Modus Wedge shaft but the normal PW shaft cut down) - I dont like the Modus wedge shaft feel  at all.    I was playing the Modus 105X shafts prior to the 115's and really liked them for trajectory, control and consistent results (Distance).    My swing can get really quick on the golf course but the 105x shafts worked well in both smooth and quick swings.   I also transitioned to Modus earlier this year since my elbow flared up again from the Dynamic Golf shafts.   The modus shafts helps me a ton from the freaking elbow pain that i have been dealing with the past few years.   

 

On to the shafts -  for those that hit and played the Modus 105's - think of the 115's as the bigger brother - same characteristics but just a bit more heft to them.   My sweet spot for irons shafts is the 112 - 120 range based off previous fittings.   Anything lower can get wild due to my inconsistent swing and anything higher i start to fight fatigue nearing the end of the round (Sloppy swings pop up).    I was waiting patiently for these to arrive since on paper that was going to be a perfect fit and after one round and a few range sessions - they are working spot on for me.     Plus the color combination with my grey grips is a sweet setup.  

 

Sorry guys but I do not have any spin number or Launch data at this time - I will say the spin is there and they act exactly as the 105's - hit the green and stop 3 ft. from landing spot - my deceit angle does help with that since I have never had a problem with stopping the golf ball.         

 

The trajectory window is exactly where I want it (I hate talking about this because everyone has different perceptions of way too high vs. too low) - I expect to see it in a specific window and it is there every time.    I can still hit knockdowns or 3/4 swings with same consistent results.   

 

The shaft flex is great as well for my normal smooth transition or my very quick swing that comes out of nowhere moments.   

 

I have played the 125X in the past (Younger days) and the 115's feel similar to both the 105 and 125 for me.  Great shaft for those that want some extra weight without going into the 125-130 gram weight class.     

 

Fire away with questions or comments - I can definitely try and help answer them.   

[MPG]

Another Update - just played another 2 rounds with the Modus 115 and I am more and more impressed.   They are exactly like the 105gram but just slightly heavier and I can really go after a shot or hit a 3/4 with no problems.   The flight is terrific with plenty of spin to stop very quick.    

 

This shaft will be a HUGE hit with the Modus players out there when it becomes available in 2021.   

 

Outstanding!

Edited December 16, 2020 by MPG

[bradyja3]

On 11/23/2020 at 1:59 PM, StillCantPutt said:

I have a set of 115X on the way in black - anxious to test them next to the 120X 

Any information yet on your testing? I currently play the 120X and am interested in the 115X as well. 

[bradyja3]

On 11/23/2020 at 1:59 PM, StillCantPutt said:

I have a set of 115X on the way in black - anxious to test them next to the 120X 

Curious what your thoughts are on the 115X compared to the 120X? Did you prefer one over the other? 

[Micrys2]

Any updates on timing of availability?  Do fitters like Club Champion have these yet? Yes 

[DesertRain]

MPG

 

you playing 115x??  I’m currently in the 105x and intrigued...

 

thanks

[MPG]

On 1/10/2021 at 8:54 PM, DesertRain said:

MPG

 

you playing 115x??  I’m currently in the 105x and intrigued...

 

thanks

Yes, I was playing the 105x and I liked them but could get a little “squirrelly” due to some quicker swings that pop up.  I am now playing the 115x and will not go back.  I have played 7 rounds and they are terrific.   I played the 125x and 105x and now the 115x.  This is the perfect shaft for me and they perform exactly as I want and need.  
 

send me questions and I will do my best to answer them.  

[djhgolf]

How do these compare to DG 120. Feel and launch?

 

[SUMM1T]

On 1/10/2021 at 5:40 PM, Micrys2 said:

Any updates on timing of availability?  Do fitters like Club Champion have these yet? Yes 

 

The standard chrome versions won't be out until later in the year, summer, I believe. Nippon allowed dealers to have access to 2-3 sets of the limited edition sets. Probably won't see a demo of these for a little while. They are good though, really good. 

[MPG]

13 hours ago, djhgolf said:

How do these compare to DG 120. Feel and launch?

 

I got fit for PXG back in early 2020 for the Gen 3 irons and was fit into Nippon 950 shafts.  This fitting was in February with a winter swing and I knew this shaft would be a possible issue in summer when swing is back in gear.   I went back to my PXG fitter for a "Sanity" check in the 2020 summer.  It helps that a very good friend of mine is the PXG fitter for our area and was going to see if there is another shaft that would work better that my swing is much better than the winter time.    I was fit into the DG 120's since the launch, trajectory and spin numbers were very good and I was getting consistency with every shot.    The main problem with any Dynamic Gold product are my elbows feel like they are going to explode after 3 rounds.     During the fitting, he told me the sweet spot for shaft weight on irons is 115-120 range since it controls both my quicker swings as well as my normal transition swing.    

I had to get rid of the DG120 for my own sake or my golf would be over early and that is where Modus 105x shaft came into play.  I knew the shafts were light but worked out but as soon as i heard about the Modus 115 - i knew i had to have them and bite the bullet for them.  They were not cheap but it did not matter to me since my results on the course are terrific.   

 

With all that being said, both DG120 and Modus 115 have same flight and distance characteristics with spins to hold the greens but the Modus shaft feels SO MUCH better and my elbow is not flaring up at all.    I could definitely play the DG 120's if i had 20 year old elbows again but with age - comes Modus!!!

 

[Morry]

On 11/28/2020 at 9:53 PM, noodle3872 said:

X flex to X flex the 115 should be lower flight and spin. 

What if 105-x in long irons and 115-s in the shorter ones?

 

think that will blend well from a launch, spin and profile perspective?

 

 

[sleepyeg]

On 11/24/2020 at 10:05 PM, BirdieBob said:

No...this was a Pro Builder set order with the 115x.

 

 

Any reviews on this set up by any chance? Got the P770 with the 105 and was wondering what changes did the 115 make. 

[Mwils29]

Anyone with some insight as to how these compare to the Oban ct-115?

[djhgolf]

For those who have these how is the finish holding up?

[MPG]

17 hours ago, djhgolf said:

For those who have these how is the finish holding up?

I had them in play for 8-10 rounds with zero damage, scuffs or fading.   I am watching for this constantly but so far so good.  Much better than the KBS smoke version they used a few years ago.    

[Morry]

Any reviews of these vs the modus 105's?

profile, etc 

thanks

[nova6868]

10 hours ago, Morry said:

Any reviews of these vs the modus 105's?

profile, etc 

thanks

 

They are the same profile, just a little heavier and a little stiffer. 

 

[Morry]

3 hours ago, nova6868 said:

 

They are the same profile, just a little heavier and a little stiffer. 

 

When is the full release??

 

moving 105-x to 115-s should work, yes?

 

 

[noodle3872]

On 2/1/2021 at 4:03 PM, Morry said:

When is the full release??

 

moving 105-x to 115-s should work, yes?

 

 

I was told March/April when these were first announced however I haven’t checked on the date since. 

[Morry]

3 hours ago, noodle3872 said:

I was told March/April when these were first announced however I haven’t checked on the date since. 

thanks

 

any view on moving from 105-x to 115-s?

[wely324]

On 1/18/2021 at 6:53 PM, Morry said:

What if 105-x in long irons and 115-s in the shorter ones?

 

think that will blend well from a launch, spin and profile perspective?

 

 

 

I would stick with the same flex in both shafts, the concern would be the difference in SW and/or total weight from the long clubs to the short irons and messing with your swing and timing. If you need a higher launch for just your long irons, you are either playing the wrong shaft to start with, or the wrong head.

 

the additional 10 grams per shaft weight is not going to be a full flex stiffer, it would be hardly noticeable if at all.

Edited February 3, 2021 by wely324

[noodle3872]

Well, the news is not good...my club builder reached out to Nippon to inquire about when the retail release of the chrome 115 Stiff will occur. He was told “Nippon has no current plans to add the Modus 115 to their shaft line up.” Quite disappointing news. 

[Hedgehog]

2 hours ago, noodle3872 said:

Well, the news is not good...my club builder reached out to Nippon to inquire about when the retail release of the chrome 115 Stiff will occur. He was told “Nippon has no current plans to add the Modus 115 to their shaft line up.” Quite disappointing news. 

What does that mean? Teh shaft wont be available to buy? Wont be used as option for club manufacturers?

 

Why launch a product and then not release it?

[BlkNGld]

8 hours ago, Hedgehog said:

What does that mean? Teh shaft wont be available to buy? Wont be used as option for club manufacturers?

 

Why launch a product and then not release it?

 

Wording is pretty clear.   They've decommitted the launch.   

 

Can only guess, but given the general situation in lots of industries, it's possible that they expected supply issues that limit production capability to be over by now but it hasn't worked out that way.   Introducing another product would just make that problem worse.

 

If that's the case, then I suspect it will eventually be released, they just aren't saying when because they may not know with any confidence.

 

Hope they aren't killing it entirely as it's something I'm interested in trying.

[noodle3872]

My fitter told me they still have the black version available. Apparently they are disappointed in the sell through of the special edition so it sounds like they backed off production plans for the 115. I think it’s a mistake to gauge interest on a special edition which carried a premium price tag. I think they would’ve sold every chrome 115 they made if it came in at the same price as all other Modus shafts.