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At the risk of over-generalizing...

 

Most of the friends and acquaintances I've made while playing golf in UK find the idea of having players off different tees within the same game to be repugnant. It seems odd to me that the handicap authority there has not adopted Course Rating - Par but presumably it's because relatively few UK golfers are even willing to consider mixing tees within a group.

 

Two very different cultures, here and there.

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1 hour ago, mattran said:

Hi

 

With GB&I not using Course Rating - par to calculate the Course handicap what adjustments needs to be made to the playing handicap when playing on different tees?
 

 

 

Thx

Matt

Those playing from the tees with the higher CR get additional strokes  - the difference between the CRs of the courses.  Just the same as we do with the SSS as mattran says

 

Nothing new to us in that but probably more widely used in mixed gender competitions than single gender ones.

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6 hours ago, mattran said:

Hi

 

With GB&I not using Course Rating - par to calculate the Course handicap what adjustments needs to be made to the playing handicap when playing on different tees?
Thx

Matt

There is a bit more to it than said above. 9 hole rounds do in fact take par into account for both Course and Playing Handicap.

In addition there may be an adjustment in stableford format to the Playing Handicap if pars are different.

 

Without quoting the whole of Rule 6 it is difficult to explain the differences between CONGU and elsewhere.

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5 hours ago, Newby said:

There is a bit more to it than said above. 9 hole rounds do in fact take par into account for both Course and Playing Handicap.

In addition there may be an adjustment in stableford format to the Playing Handicap if pars are different.

 

Without quoting the whole of Rule 6 it is difficult to explain the differences between CONGU and elsewhere.

 

 

I reckoned there was too much more to it to go into 9 hole rounds and stablefords.  To be clear, what I said above was for medal play.

 

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Mudguard said:

I have pondering this for awhile. Why rate courses for men and women. Why not split it down the middle (as they have set rates for scratch and bogey men, and the same for women). Then you would simply have one rating per tee. What would the drawbacks be? 

 

 

 

 

Good question.

 

One of the basic assumptions of the slope/rating system is the definition of the "scratch" and "bogey" golfer. These are largely based on how far they hit the ball and because men and women, on average, hit the ball different lengths there is a natural reason for creating different ratings for men and women.

 

I've argued that now that we have tremendous amounts of Shotlink and strokes gained data from the PGA Tour players they could switch to using that as the reference and using a computer based statistical model for a single course rating. No need to define scratch and bogey golfers or to separate based on gender.

 

Sure, women's handicaps would be higher on average than men's, but who cares other that for reasons of ego?

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