Taylormade SIM 2.0

[Marcusfj]

Would someone be kind enough to PM pics to me too please!

[SwingBlues]

Looks like this thread will be all of "Someone please DM or PM me the picture" than actual discussions 🤣

[CKalma]

 

6 minutes ago, SwingBlues said:

Looks like this thread will be all of "Someone please DM or PM me the picture" than actual discussions 🤣

There will have to be an a new thread when the photos are released or mods could delete 99% of the posts in this thread when all is said and done...

[Honixx]

Help a brother out here..

[TheMackDaddy]

Looking for pictures pls and thank you

[jhford00]

On 11/23/2020 at 8:47 PM, Puttersaurus Rex said:

Please come back February 1 for actual information, and all of your questions will be answered.  Pictures and shaft options too!  Even then there will be a few pages about TM’s shaft tipping policy. 

What is the shaft tipping policy? I must have missed this one...or is it being swept under the rug?

[CKalma]

5 hours ago, jhford00 said:

What is the shaft tipping policy? I must have missed this one...or is it being swept under the rug?

Taylormade tips all the driver shafts 1" regardless of the manufacturers recommendation. So customers are unaware they may be receiving a shaft that will play differently than when they were fitted as the fitting shafts could differ in tipping.

Edited November 27, 2020 by CKalma

[lasib]

Please PM me pictures as well !!! Thanks

[jhford00]

8 hours ago, CKalma said:

Taylormade tips all the driver shafts 1" regardless of the manufacturers recommendation. So customers are unaware they may be receiving a shaft that will play differently than when they were fitted as the fitting shafts could differ in tipping.

I would assume that if you were to be fitted by a TM rep at a demo day then you would essentially be hitting the same 1" tipped shaft bc that's what the rep has. Factory. Going elsewhere to a truespec or cc would definitely throw everything off unless

 

Thats pretty wild though, has TM commented about it?

[1s1k]

If you want pics give this post a like.  

[Brooks_Cupcake]

11 hours ago, CKalma said:

Taylormade tips all the driver shafts 1" regardless of the manufacturers recommendation. So customers are unaware they may be receiving a shaft that will play differently than when they were fitted as the fitting shafts could differ in tipping.

this is actually only partially true.

the only way to confirm is to go on their website and build a driver. If it gives you the option to go 1” soft then it’s tipped an inch but for example this year the Smoke Green 70 came untipped but the 60 was tipped an inch.

Its all OEM dependent and never aligned to OEM recommendations.

ALWAYS build out the driver using their “custom” option to ensure you get what you want 

[CKalma]

4 hours ago, jhford00 said:

I would assume that if you were to be fitted by a TM rep at a demo day then you would essentially be hitting the same 1" tipped shaft bc that's what the rep has. Factory. Going elsewhere to a truespec or cc would definitely throw everything off unless

 

Thats pretty wild though, has TM commented about it?

Taylormade did comment I think in the Ask Taylormade Anything thread. Can't recall the true reasoning.

 

1 hour ago, therealjonzone said:

this is actually only partially true.

the only way to confirm is to go on their website and build a driver. If it gives you the option to go 1” soft then it’s tipped an inch but for example this year the Smoke Green 70 came untipped but the 60 was tipped an inch.

Its all OEM dependent and never aligned to OEM recommendations.

ALWAYS build out the driver using their “custom” option to ensure you get what you want 

This is right. Always build your driver in the customization option. 

[cjbgolfer]

will the draw bias version be the same as the sim max d or will it be even more draw biased on the level of Big Bertha B21?

[noodle3872]

57 minutes ago, cjbgolfer said:

will the draw bias version be the same as the sim max d or will it be even more draw biased on the level of Big Bertha B21?

Not sure anybody can answer your question at this point. 

[incog]

Ima need a homie to drop the pics in my PMs so I can add them to my "homework" file. Thank you in advance 

[Lemonde]

10 hours ago, therealjonzone said:

this is actually only partially true.

the only way to confirm is to go on their website and build a driver. If it gives you the option to go 1” soft then it’s tipped an inch but for example this year the Smoke Green 70 came untipped but the 60 was tipped an inch.

Its all OEM dependent and never aligned to OEM recommendations.

ALWAYS build out the driver using their “custom” option to ensure you get what you want 

Well that’s interesting. Still haven’t come across a 60 gram that has been untipped using the tool

Edited November 28, 2020 by Lemonde

[The_Hipp]

Does anyone have some real insight into the new hybrid or hybrids. Been trying to get some information on the hybrids for awhile. Just really looking for someone to confirm that there will be an adjustable hosel hybrid not just bonded like the last two releases. Thanks!

[Brooks_Cupcake]

1 hour ago, Lemonde said:

Well that’s interesting. Still haven’t come across a 60 gram that has been untipped using the tool

Sorry, it was the other way around.

60 tipped 1” 70 was untipped

[nsxguy]

23 hours ago, CKalma said:

Taylormade tips all the driver shafts 1" regardless of the manufacturers recommendation. So customers are unaware they may be receiving a shaft that will play differently than when they were fitted as the fitting shafts could differ in tipping.

 

According to what I've read around here from people I believe know what they're talking about is that TM routinely tips all STOCK shafts 1" - so an off the rack stock shaft would certainly be tipped.

 

Upcharge, exotic shafts they'll leave UNtipped unless the buyer specifies otherwise.

 

And one might logically assume, since an upcharge shaft would be a "special" order, that part of said order would be "Tip the shaft (if so, how much ?) or not ?"

[LIGHT THE CANDLE]

Seen it today.

[Brooks_Cupcake]

59 minutes ago, nsxguy said:

 

According to what I've read around here from people I believe know what they're talking about is that TM routinely tips all STOCK shafts 1" - so an off the rack stock shaft would certainly be tipped.

 

Upcharge, exotic shafts they'll leave UNtipped unless the buyer specifies otherwise.

 

And one might logically assume, since an upcharge shaft would be a "special" order, that part of said order would be "Tip the shaft (if so, how much ?) or not ?"

Not correct.

 

Go build a Velocore and they tip 1” and you need to request it soft if you want it untipped.

[CKalma]

14 hours ago, nsxguy said:

 

According to what I've read around here from people I believe know what they're talking about is that TM routinely tips all STOCK shafts 1" - so an off the rack stock shaft would certainly be tipped

 

13 hours ago, therealjonzone said:

 

I know the above is from 4 years ago but this is what I was going off of for an answer to the other members post. Looks like 1" is across the board upcharge or not unless you request otherwise.

 

Below is the response @TaylorMade Golf gave to someone as to their reasoning for tipping driver shafts 1" the thread linked below. Page 3 1st response. 

 

"Ram, really good question. Short answer, a lot of it is based on manufacture recommendations. The long answer is when golf shafts became modular and were able to be interchanged the whole build process changed. Drivers had deeper hosels and shafts went deeper in to heads and many were still bore through heads. In order to get the shaft to perform the same way, we had to tip shafts to match the depth that a driver shaft would go previously.

Example:

Old bore through head the shaft would go in 2 inches

vs.

New R9 with FCT adapter (which only goes into the head 1inch)

If we didn't tip the R9 shaft it would play softer than when compared to another driver.

 

As a club builder many wood shafts coming in 46-47 inches in length. This gives the fitter/builder a lot of room to work with and gives them more options to dial in your specs and build. Trimming more or trimming less can give the golfer a club that feels firmer or softer and in doing so helps them deliver the club to the ball better.

Freddy V. - Team Taylormade"

 

 

Anyway, lets gets back to the SIM 2.0 non-photo thread.

Edited November 28, 2020 by CKalma
Wording was confusing

[Brooks_Cupcake]

5 minutes ago, CKalma said:

 

I know this is from 4 years ago but this is what seems to be true to date and what I was going off of for an answer to the other members post. Looks like 1" is across the board upcharge or not unless you request otherwise.

 

And....

 

Ram, really good question. Short answer, a lot of it is based on manufacture recommendations. The long answer is when golf shafts became modular and were able to be interchanged the whole build process changed. Drivers had deeper hosels and shafts went deeper in to heads and many were still bore through heads. In order to get the shaft to perform the same way, we had to tip shafts to match the depth that a driver shaft would go previously.

Example:

Old bore through head the shaft would go in 2 inches

vs.

New R9 with FCT adapter (which only goes into the head 1inch)

If we didn't tip the R9 shaft it would play softer than when compared to another driver.

 

As a club builder many wood shafts coming in 46-47 inches in length. This gives the fitter/builder a lot of room to work with and gives them more options to dial in your specs and build. Trimming more or trimming less can give the golfer a club that feels firmer or softer and in doing so helps them deliver the club to the ball better.

Freddy V. - Team Taylormade

 

 

Above is the response @TaylorMade Golf gave to someone as to their reasoning for tipping driver shafts 1" in this thread. Page 3 1st response. 

 

Anyway, lets gets back to the SIM 2.0 non-photo thread.

Pics or didn’t happen, right?

[CKalma]

6 minutes ago, therealjonzone said:

Pics or didn’t happen, right?

You're right. The Smoke Green 70 and Smoke Black 70. I went through all of the shafts so you guys don't have to.

[AtlantaGolf3]

Never saw the pics. What were the colors ?

[jds101086]

2 hours ago, AtlantaGolf3 said:

Never saw the pics. What were the colors ?

 

Identical to the last batch of Nike Drivers, blue and volt. More carbon and less blue but you get the idea.

[nsxguy]

20 hours ago, therealjonzone said:

Not correct.

 

Go build a Velocore and they tip 1” and you need to request it soft if you want it untipped.

 

Ahhhh, OK, so they tip everything you ORDER 1" unless you specify otherwise.

 

So I guess that means everything on the racks would be tipped 1". 

[ProjectX]

10 hours ago, jds101086 said:

 

Identical to the last batch of Nike Drivers, blue and volt. More carbon and less blue but you get the idea.

How'd that work out for Nike

 

 

[jds101086]

20 minutes ago, ProjectX said:

How'd that work out for Nike

 

 

About as well as it will for TM for me. I was a religious TM driver user since the Orange headed days, but stopped after the M3. If this has a shape even close to the Sim then it'll be another year never having a TM driver on the golf course. Crazy times when their irons are the best looking(and performing) part of their lineup. 

[sethdavidsdad]

22 hours ago, LIGHT THE CANDLE said:

Seen it today.

Are the pics correct?