Just ordered new MP irons

[Karch]

First time I’ve ordered new irons (been playing 40 years). 
 

7-PW MP-20 blades

4-6 MP-20 MMC

project X LZ 6.0, +1/4”, 1* upright

 

Pretty excited.  I hadn’t been playing more than 4x a year from 2012-2018, now playing 2-3 times a week.  
 

Already have a new driver and 3W, club fitter is also bringing in a 2i MP-20 HMB for me to try.  I figure I can deal with the gap from 4i to 2i if I have to, as it’s not that often I’m in that range and shooting at a green, but I love a strong long iron off the tee. 
 

These will replace my MP-64 with KBS C-Taper, which replaced my MP-33 x100 (those were amazing, still have them 😀). 
 

Just wanted to share my excitement. 
 

Fwiw, I did try T100, P770, i500.  Mizzy’s just felt better.  Actually, I mostly hit the MMC, not the blades, but I just love blades so I figure this will be the best blend, for me, while I’m playing often. 

Edited October 16, 2020 by Karch

[LukeDonaldsTiger]

Enjoy them, brother! Exactly the makeup I would have ordered. But I’ve grown to admit I need some more help, and will buy cavity back irons (New Level 902, if you’re curious).

I’m currently playing 33s in 7-PW and those sticks are special. Will never sell them. 
 

Let us know how you get along with the MBs, several people on here claim they are easy to hit. Also, I’d love to know if you think that the MMCs feel as phenomenal as virtually everybody who hit them is saying. They might be Mizuno‘s latest evergreen...

[FredWomble]

I have a mixed set of MP-20s as well. 5-6 HMB, 7-8 MMC, 9-P MB. You should be excited. Great set, no doubt you'll be very happy when you have your set. Enjoy!

[getitdaily]

3 hours ago, Karch said:

First time I’ve ordered new irons (been playing 40 years). 
 

7-PW MP-20 blades

4-6 MP-20 MMC

project X LZ 6.0, +1/4”, 1* upright

 

Pretty excited.  I hadn’t been playing more than 4x a year from 2012-2018, now playing 2-3 times a week.  
 

Already have a new driver and 3W, club fitter is also bringing in a 2i MP-20 HMB for me to try.  I figure I can deal with the gap from 4i to 2i if I have to, as it’s not that often I’m in that range and shooting at a green, but I love a strong long iron off the tee. 
 

These will replace my MP-64 with KBS C-Taper, which replaced my MP-33 x100 (those were amazing, still have them 😀). 
 

Just wanted to share my excitement. 
 

Fwiw, I did try T100, P770, i500.  Mizzy’s just felt better.  Actually, I mostly hit the MMC, not the blades, but I just love blades so I figure this will be the best blend, for me, while I’m playing often. 

Nice. I went mp33 to mp63 to jpx900 tours. About to order jpx921tours. Hit them well.

 

Btw, I have hmb 3i and 4i...

[bladehunter]

I predict you’ll love that combo OP.  

[Karch]

Thanks for the replies.

I thought I had replied earlier via my phone, but I guess I didn't 'submit' perhaps?

 

I was concerned about going from a 34* 7 iron blade to the 28* 6 iron MMC, so the fitter (very well known and respected) and I discussed ordering one a degree strong and the other a degree weak, or other options.

My question than was, what would Mizuno do to the clubs that you wouldn't do on your Mitchell machine?  To that he said it was the same thing, which I believe to be true.

 

So, I asked, why don't we order them the stock lofts, and either I hit them on your Trackman when they come in and adjust then, or I play them a couple of times and report back, then adjust?

 

He liked the idea.

 

I came to this because I went to a pgasuperstore and tried out the blade and MMC and noticed I'm about 5-6 yards, on average, longer with the MMC, which is about right for the lofts, but since the geometry is a bit different I felt I needed to test to be sure.

 

I tend to be very consistent with my yardages with irons, though I also tend to miss left and right much more than front and back.

 

My reasoning to go with the blades in the shorter irons is because I had always played blades (1982 Staff FG17, wore them out for years, then Hogan Apex, MP33 (X100's), then the current MP-64).  I had been playing only 4x a year from 2013-2018, and I came back from a family trip where I played in Scotland on rented clubs, and realized I'm too old (50) and not playing enough to play blades with x100's anymore.

 

Well, while I adore my MP-64's, I still lust whenever I see someone playing blades.  When I go to a golf store, my eyes always lock on blades.  I was ready to accept the MMC as they felt great, but then I remembered I can do a combo.

 

I started to think hard about it.  What did I realistically think would be a good break, or split, point?  I thought about the distance I hit them, where I think it's realistic to expect to hit it close, etc.  I tend to play a slight draw but like to shape it either way.

 

I was going to go for the 8-PW, but felt 7 would be fine.  I was hitting the 7 MMC about 172 on Trackman, with 5 yard roll out.  In truth, most courses I play, if no wind, I get zero roll out.  My ball tends to hit and stop (lucky, but into a wind kills me usually).

 

Anyway, so that is what I ordered.  The fitter ordered me a 2i HMB as well, no commitment on my part.  He helped me with the trackman a few weeks ago when I was trying out a UDI and saw I hit that well so we decided to give this a try.  He said if I can maintain a 40* landing angle I can hold the green with the 2i, and I was just above that.

 

I'm an engineer and a gearhead, so this kind of stuff gets me pretty excited.  I'm recently divorced (hence golfing more now) and have a new gf that golfs 5x a week, so it's all good.

 

I have a new instructor who says I need to work on my putting, I'm losing a lot of strokes on the greens (truth be told, my chipping and putting skills are on par with about 2x my handicap, I still hit the ball tee to green well), so I'm also going to get a couple wedges to help in getting closer to the pin.

 

Four-five weeks is going to be tough to wait out. 

[cflo2382]

That's awesome OP! I had a fitting yesterday myself and I went with the same MP combo set but with Modus 125x, +1/2, 1 up. I hit several heads and shafts and the top runners besides the MP set were the Titleist CB, JPX 921 Tour, and the TM P7MC. I've never been a big TaylorMade guy but the P7MC was very nice and a close second (The P7MB was very nice, too). I almost went full MMC for the set, but I too am coming from playing blades and liked the idea of the combo. These blend so well with the MBs with the right loft adjustments. I went 2* weak on the MCC lofts to blend in with the MB stock lofts. Now, I'm kind of considering the HMB for a 3 iron/driving iron. Can't wait to get these in the bag!

Edited October 16, 2020 by cflo2382

[No_Catchy_Nickname]

That was an interesting way to approach the combo set and gapping. 6* between the 7i and 6i is a lot, but I agree that it's best to hit them first and see how they work before adjusting them.

 

I played the MP64s for a year or so. They might as well be a blade, but it was thank to them that I moved on to MP4s. Still play MP4s, though not the original set I first bought because this is GolfWRX and I am a ho.

 

By the way, with that high ball-flight, high-spin shot you have, I imagine Scottish golf must have been pretty tough?

[aquapig]

Great set. 

 

If you have concerns with gapping, then why not just go full set of MMCs?

 

You wouldn't have any gapping issues and you wouldn't be disappointed at all. 

 

Either way, great set of clubs.

[bladehunter]

8 hours ago, Karch said:

Thanks for the replies.

I thought I had replied earlier via my phone, but I guess I didn't 'submit' perhaps?

 

I was concerned about going from a 34* 7 iron blade to the 28* 6 iron MMC, so the fitter (very well known and respected) and I discussed ordering one a degree strong and the other a degree weak, or other options.

My question than was, what would Mizuno do to the clubs that you wouldn't do on your Mitchell machine?  To that he said it was the same thing, which I believe to be true.

 

So, I asked, why don't we order them the stock lofts, and either I hit them on your Trackman when they come in and adjust then, or I play them a couple of times and report back, then adjust?

 

He liked the idea.

 

I came to this because I went to a pgasuperstore and tried out the blade and MMC and noticed I'm about 5-6 yards, on average, longer with the MMC, which is about right for the lofts, but since the geometry is a bit different I felt I needed to test to be sure.

 

I tend to be very consistent with my yardages with irons, though I also tend to miss left and right much more than front and back.

 

My reasoning to go with the blades in the shorter irons is because I had always played blades (1982 Staff FG17, wore them out for years, then Hogan Apex, MP33 (X100's), then the current MP-64).  I had been playing only 4x a year from 2013-2018, and I came back from a family trip where I played in Scotland on rented clubs, and realized I'm too old (50) and not playing enough to play blades with x100's anymore.

 

Well, while I adore my MP-64's, I still lust whenever I see someone playing blades.  When I go to a golf store, my eyes always lock on blades.  I was ready to accept the MMC as they felt great, but then I remembered I can do a combo.

 

I started to think hard about it.  What did I realistically think would be a good break, or split, point?  I thought about the distance I hit them, where I think it's realistic to expect to hit it close, etc.  I tend to play a slight draw but like to shape it either way.

 

I was going to go for the 8-PW, but felt 7 would be fine.  I was hitting the 7 MMC about 172 on Trackman, with 5 yard roll out.  In truth, most courses I play, if no wind, I get zero roll out.  My ball tends to hit and stop (lucky, but into a wind kills me usually).

 

Anyway, so that is what I ordered.  The fitter ordered me a 2i HMB as well, no commitment on my part.  He helped me with the trackman a few weeks ago when I was trying out a UDI and saw I hit that well so we decided to give this a try.  He said if I can maintain a 40* landing angle I can hold the green with the 2i, and I was just above that.

 

I'm an engineer and a gearhead, so this kind of stuff gets me pretty excited.  I'm recently divorced (hence golfing more now) and have a new gf that golfs 5x a week, so it's all good.

 

I have a new instructor who says I need to work on my putting, I'm losing a lot of strokes on the greens (truth be told, my chipping and putting skills are on par with about 2x my handicap, I still hit the ball tee to green well), so I'm also going to get a couple wedges to help in getting closer to the pin.

 

Four-five weeks is going to be tough to wait out. 

You made the right choice.  I can report that bending the mmc 6 iron a few degrees weak doesn’t hurt the turf interaction at all. You’ll be able to gap that perfectly.  And the  mp 20 MB isn’t at all a chore to hit.  
 

[gators78]

You'll absolutely love the irons. I was coming from the i210s and have been very surprised at how forgiving the MP20 MBs, I've had no problems on the switch. Oddly enough I take smaller divots with the MBs than the i210s. I haven't tried the 919 Tours, but I thought the 900 Tours were by far the hardest to hit irons I've ever tried, way way way harder than the MBs. 

[MPAndreassi]

I have a combo set of MPs coming also. 8-PW in the MB have been delivered, as well as 3-4 HMB. I have the MMCs filling in 5-7. I’m coming from Apex CF16s and these are very playable. I’m getting rid of the HMB 4 iron and likely replacing it with an MMC

[Sfd732]

I am currently trying to decide on a purchase of a set of MP-20's to replace my MP-33's. I feel like the MP-20's may be a bit more consistent for me, they were within a yard every swing at a fitting the other day. They also felt amazing, but that may just be because they were something new. I have very short honeymoon phase of greatness, I should prob just stick with the 33's.

[lefty1978]

19 hours ago, Sfd732 said:

I am currently trying to decide on a purchase of a set of MP-20's to replace my MP-33's. I feel like the MP-20's may be a bit more consistent for me, they were within a yard every swing at a fitting the other day. They also felt amazing, but that may just be because they were something new. I have very short honeymoon phase of greatness, I should prob just stick with the 33's.

I bought the MP20 set, I also have the MP32 set. I like the MP32 better. The 20's will be longer than your 33's because they are 1° stronger, so probably 3 yards longer. The MP20 is a great set, but can't honestly say they are better than other Mizuno blades.

[Hobbs]

Sounds like a good set for the OP.  Long time Mizuno fan.  20 years with the MP-14, then went MP-15 (short lived), then MP-18 SC.  Sold my MP-18 SC and currently game Titleist T100, but looking at the MP-20 MMC.  There is something about Mizuno irons that keep me coming back.  I game my MP-14 from time to time and fall in love all over again.  Just need something more forgiving on mishits.  Seems like the MMC might be the answer, especially after all the positive feedbacks I've read.

[farris207]

Sounds like an awesome set you have coming your way! My dad just ordered a full set of the MMC and is going through the waiting process right now as well. I'm curious to hear how the 2i HMB goes. I have been looking at bagging one of those myself. Did you match your shaft to your other irons or change it up?

[Karch]

Thanks.  Pretty excited.  My last two rounds I have been driving the ball great (for me), hit some good iron shots, and my putting is eluding me.  Ugh.  But, every round is on a different course, yesterday they had been punched recently, last week were lightning fast for here in SoCal.

 

The fitter ordered the same shaft for the 2i HMB, he said he likes that weight for me.  Normally I would have opted for a bit lighter and graphite, but he thinks I'll hit it just as far as a graphite.  Not sure how, but then again, he's quite good at what he does.

 

My gap between the 4i and 2i will probably be 20 yards.  While it's not ideal, when I think about it, it's not often I am 225 to a green.  If I am, I can choke down, I guess.  If I have a 225 shot to a green twice in a round would surprise me...besides, that's what shotmaking is for, right?  

 

In my fitting, the $-Taper was a close second, but the Mizuno shaft optimizer also picked the PX LZ 6.0.  The fitter said that he's done this a long time, and it's rare when that optimizer isn't spot on.  

 

I plan to be fit for wedges when they come in.  This Covid thing is costing me too much...haha.

 

FWIW, my index just dropped 0.6 points 🙂

[Karch]

Got a call from the store today, they expect the clubs to be in on 11/18...ugh!

 

Glad they were proactive in letting me know.  I have a week long baseball tournament next week, so at least I will have some distraction.

[ForTourUseOnly]

13 hours ago, Karch said:

Got a call from the store today, they expect the clubs to be in on 11/18...ugh!

 

Glad they were proactive in letting me know.  I have a week long baseball tournament next week, so at least I will have some distraction.

Just got a quote for a customer of mine and they are now saying Christmas for MMC. Think yours are in before they ran out again so you should get them.

[Oaks]

My MP20’s were ordered on 9/7 and took about a month to come in.  I went with:

 

4 HMP

5-PW in MMC 

KBS $Taper 130 Black - they look and feel amazing  - first round this past weekend I stuffed an 8 iron on 18 to win our match with “Gimmie” Birdie.   
 

you won’t regret them - I thought I wanted the 921’s but fell in love with the MP20’s!

[TLUBulldogGolf]

Hope they work out for you OP, I've been in Mizunos pretty much since I started playing more seriously. I'm looking at going full MB, 3-PW. Considered the HMB for the 3 but I'm going to see how it goes with the blades. Sounds like I should get them on order soon or it could be a while. 

Edited October 22, 2020 by TLUBulldogGolf

[cflo2382]

2 hours ago, ForTourUseOnly said:

Just got a quote for a customer of mine and they are now saying Christmas for MMC. Think yours are in before they ran out again so you should get them.

 

I was told the same delay for the MMC in my order. Luckily, since mine are +1/2", I was able to go with the "B weight heads" which apparently don't have the same delay.

[mn723]

OP - Congrats on your new purchase and I hope you get your MP20's soon.  I figured I'd chime in with my MP20 & overall new bag experience this year:

 

Back in February I decided to treat myself to a whole new bag and go all in on the fitting process etc.  I had three 2-3 hour sessions before the clubs were ordered and another 1+ hour session with the new sticks once they were built to dial in anything etc.  The process was great.  I'm not sure what this all means, but the shafts were spun, pured and MOI matched.  I got Mizuno ST200 driver, ST200 3 & 5 woods, MP20 HMB 3-5 irons, MP20 blade 6-PW and T20 chrome 50, 55 & 60 wedges and then a Taylor Made Sim Max 19* hybrid.  Yes, that's 15 new clubs so when I throw a putter in I have 16 clubs.  I went with that as I like to tinker in the long clubs depending on the course and what's working etc.

 

The MP20 clubs are awesome and I likely had my best ball striking summer ever, though I now only play 40 rounds per year (we have kids) as opposed to when I was young/single and used to play 100+ rounds per year.  I'm guessing this is due to the shafts being spun, pured & MOI matched (whatever that all means), but I gained about 5-10 yards on each iron compared to my old sets and generally hit them straighter (I often fight a draw/hook).

 

Back in the day when I played a ton of golf my handicap stayed around scratch.  My handicap crept up to 3-4 the last few years when the kids arrived and I played less golf.  This summer it went back down to 1 even though I only played about 40 rounds.  I tribute this to the consistency of the MP20 irons.

 

I had the blade 6 iron bent a little strong to flow better with the HMB 5 iron.  These clubs are so pure, especially the blades.  They look & feel so great.  I've had so many people look at, admire and ask about the MP20's, which is kind of fun as I'm an equipment rube.  I wasn't sure I had the game to play blades, but I think I have the game to play these.  Minor negative is that the HMB's are different clubs from the blades.  HMB's are more forgiving, thus harder to "work", they can be too "hot" compared to the blades and every once in a while I catch a flier with the HMB's that goes too far.  I've learned to watch for that depending on the lie I have and try to dial it back a bit when I see a potential flier situation.  Even though I had the blade 6 iron bent a little strong, there is a little too much distance gap between 5 & 6 irons compared to the rest of the set.  If I had to start over, I would have got a blade 5 iron instead of HMB.  For 3 & 4 iron shots the confidence of the HMB is great for me.

 

One big positive is that the HMB 3 iron is a missile launcher & fairway finder off the tee.  It goes a similar distance to the Max hybrid (230 yards), but I don't have to worry about hooking left like the hybrid does when I make a bad swing.

 

For the most part I went with driver, 5-wood and then 3 iron down this summer.  I have more confidence in the add'l loft of the 5 wood compared to the 3 wood.  Sure, there are a few rare times when a 3 wood would be nice when 260+ out on a par 5, but I've learned that ripping a 3 wood from that far out generally causes more problems than the potential reward is worth.

 

I didn't really notice any improvement in the driver, fwy wood and hybrid areas compared to previous clubs I've had.  In fact, my Ping G400 Max driver snuck back in the bag and stayed there for 80% of my rounds.

[deep18]

You’re going to love them. I went MMC all the way through and couldn’t be happier. 

[Karch]

Thank you for your posts.  Can't believe how long the wait is, I've never been a patient person.  In fact, I cut back on playing many years ago due to how long it takes to play a round in Los Angeles.  If left to my own, I play in about 3 hours, walking, not even trying to play fast.  

 

Anyway, hopefully less than 4 weeks to go.😲

[jbruce1186]

You are going to love them! However the 4-5 weeks they're quoting is very generous. I ordered a full set 5-P of the MP-20 blades on Sept 9th through my fitter and I'm still waiting for them with no update, 7 weeks later.

 

Hope you don't have to go through the wait I've had to!

[Karch]

Update:  no update, except to say Mizuno has missed their promise date 3x.  
 

I work in manufacturing.  We have customer request date and promise date. 
 

Shame on us for missing promise date. 
 

Last I heard, as of mid week, is Dec 1 ship date to the golf shop.

 

I am disappointed.  I understand, but still disappointed. 

[Nick_E]

I just received jpx 921 forged and they took a good 6 weeks.  They are running behind and I believe its getting worse.

 

Good luck with the irons, sounds like an amazing set.  I decided with 921s as I needed a little more help on mishits.

[Therealpatgiles]

8 hours ago, Karch said:

Update:  no update, except to say Mizuno has missed their promise date 3x.  
 

I work in manufacturing.  We have customer request date and promise date. 
 

Shame on us for missing promise date. 
 

Last I heard, as of mid week, is Dec 1 ship date to the golf shop.

 

I am disappointed.  I understand, but still disappointed. 

You won't be disappointed when you're on the course with your crispy mizunos.  Patience grasshopper. I love my mp18 mmc. Once you have em, you'll have forgotten about a small wait. 

Edited November 23, 2020 by Therealpatgiles

[Karch]

I got a call on Wednesday that they were in.  Got there and had to come back later as both Trackman's were booked up.

 

Initial impressions are they feel like butter...so smooth.

 

Hit about 10 balls with each the 7 MB and 6 MMC, and while my swing isn't where it was 6 weeks ago (I played in a baseball tournament in late October, 6 games in 4 days, including one game where I threw 170 pitches, and messed up my golf swing), the gap seemed ok on stock lofts.

The 2i HMB didn't seem that great on the Trackman, or I didn't, so I didn't purchase it.  Perhaps the P790 UDI 17* is better for me?

 

I went out to my GF's course this weekend, drove poorly, but threw some balls down to better gauge the irons.

They hit really well.  I am slightly longer, I think, with them, but the weather is cooler than it was even a month ago, but I've been playing long enough to adjust (I think, at least).

 

They feel amazing, even the MMC.  I can work them both ways, haven't had a chance to try any into the wind shots, I think just being fitted right, they seem great.

 

Good enough that I'm going to sell my MP-64's, and that is rare, as I have always kept my old irons (still have my Staff FG-17, Hogan Apex, and MP-33).

 

Oddly, I also got a 50 and 54 Vokey, and those don't seem to be going the distances I expect, about 7 yards short, and that is a big concern.

 

Anyway, the new MP's are really sweet, really digging them.

 

Thanks for your input and interest.