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1 hour ago, heavy_hitter said:

Have you ever heard of a College Golf Coache fired because they didn't win?  I haven't.  If they are fired it is because of something else.

Not a matter of getting fired but you’ll never go from a D3 assistant coach job to a D1 head coach position if you consistently lose. 

There's definitely something more important that I should be doing.
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You spelled Saban wrong.

It depends.  The top schools are getting the top kids to verbal.  Doesn't always work out.  I personally know a girl that was committed to Miami.  The week leading up to signing day Miami never sent t

I hate to say this, but could this be a bigger issue with women's golf coaches? It seems the people in here who have had problems with this subject all have daughters playing or hoping to play in coll

23 minutes ago, leezer99 said:

Not a matter of getting fired but you’ll never go from a D3 assistant coach job to a D1 head coach position if you consistently lose. 

 

It's honestly not that hard of a job. All you need to do is be honest and have kids like you.   If you do that everything else will pretty much take care of themselves. The ones that lose a lot have too much bs going on.

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 I was just talking to Heavy Hitter last night about recruiting. My buddy has a son who is 13 and one of the top kids in his age group. If he keeps it up, he should be able to go wherever he wants. The questions is what separates all the big programs? Is it who puts people on tour, who has the best facilities, the best degree, etc. What should you look at when considering colleges for golf. When you do unofficial visits, you can obviously stop by the course. Can anybody just walk in the college golf facilities on their own and tour them? 

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2 hours ago, Golfingdawg19 said:

 I was just talking to Heavy Hitter last night about recruiting. My buddy has a son who is 13 and one of the top kids in his age group. If he keeps it up, he should be able to go wherever he wants. The questions is what separates all the big programs? Is it who puts people on tour, who has the best facilities, the best degree, etc. What should you look at when considering colleges for golf. When you do unofficial visits, you can obviously stop by the course. Can anybody just walk in the college golf facilities on their own and tour them? 

 

That is a very open ended question with no one specific answer, and what to look for in choosing a school could be a whole other thread altogether. I sent you a message with my thoughts on this. 

 

To answer your other question about the facilities... Most will have signs saying they are for team members only and may even have a number code or badge reader lock on the doors (mine did at least). Even if it's unlocked it's going to be pretty awkward if you just stroll in unannounced. Your best option would be to try and contact someone from the athletic department and see if you could have a tour.

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52 minutes ago, Abh159 said:

 

That is a very open ended question with no one specific answer, and what to look for in choosing a school could be a whole other thread altogether. I sent you a message with my thoughts on this. 

 

To answer your other question about the facilities... Most will have signs saying they are for team members only and may even have a number code or badge reader lock on the doors (mine did at least). Even if it's unlocked it's going to be pretty awkward if you just stroll in unannounced. You're best option would be to try and contact someone from the athletic department and see if you could have a tour.

 

 

Recruiting has changed a lot over the last several years.  From what I understand, they can't give unofficial tours anymore until your Junior year.

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3 hours ago, heavy_hitter said:

 

 

Recruiting has changed a lot over the last several years.  From what I understand, they can't give unofficial tours anymore until your Junior year.

 

You can still make unofficial visits but the coaches can't meet and speak with you until after August of your Junior year.

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13 hours ago, leezer99 said:

 

You can still make unofficial visits but the coaches can't meet and speak with you until after August of your Junior year.

 

Basically an unofficial visit is you taking your kid to campus and the facilities to look around just like any other non-athlete parent could do with their kid. My dad and I would try and do this when I was younger if we were playing in a tournament relatively close to a school I was interested in. 

 

An unofficial visit just means that the entire thing has to be financed by the kid (or his family). For the most part the coach, team, or athletic department cannot contribute in any way. They can't take you to lunch, they can't get you a hotel room, etc.

 

If I remember correctly I think you're allowed 5 official visits (and 1 per school). In all honesty by the time you get to that point you should really have your choices narrowed down to no more than 5 schools anyway. 

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9 hours ago, chrissdc said:

It is good that official visits can start your junior year. I’m the past when they only started senior year, it just didn’t seem like enough time with the whole pressure thing to announce a verbal and then sign NLI by Mid November.

Still can't take an official visit until Senior year.  

 

What has changed is unofficial visits.  In the past an 8th grader could show up and Coach could talk to him.  Now they can't do that until they are Juniors.

 

They still need to tighten the recruiting and reel it in.  These coaches shouldn't be able to verbally offer a kid until they are a junior.  It has clouded the process.

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4 hours ago, heavy_hitter said:

Still can't take an official visit until Senior year.  

 

What has changed is unofficial visits.  In the past an 8th grader could show up and Coach could talk to him.  Now they can't do that until they are Juniors.

 

They still need to tighten the recruiting and reel it in.  These coaches shouldn't be able to verbally offer a kid until they are a junior.  It has clouded the process.

With the recent changes about a year a half ago I was under the impression that official visits can start Junior year.

I read this on several websites and spoke with a local coach about a year ago. Have the recruiting rules changed?

https://www.ajga.org/parents/recruiting/college-recruiting-overview

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On 11/21/2020 at 1:59 PM, chrissdc said:

With the recent changes about a year a half ago I was under the impression that official visits can start Junior year.

I read this on several websites and spoke with a local coach about a year ago. Have the recruiting rules changed?

https://www.ajga.org/parents/recruiting/college-recruiting-overview

Interesting.  That must have changed and I was unaware.  I really haven't done my due diligence to keep up with it.

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Good read for recruiting.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Athletic-Scholarship-Playbook-Complete-Recruiting-ebook/dp/B07475HCHH

 

https://recruit-me.com/system/ 

 

There is a lot of information on the website but the podcast discusses unofficial and official several different times. 

 

Having gone through it now with my son it's a marathon not a sprint.

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