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I have been toying with this idea ever since I put the SIM Driver in the back. I have an old Ping G400 driver that is still in great condition. I also have an M3 3 wood in the bag at a 15 degree loft. With the 3 wood I am not super consistent with the shot, and this could be a perfect little draw or cut, but then the occasional duck hook, or power fade. I average about 295 if not more with the SIM Driver which on shorter courses can put me in some uncomfortable yardages into Par 4 greens. I am comfortable hitting driver, and wondering if I should cut down an old shaft for my PING G400 to about 42.5" or even 43" to get me into the 250 yard range and be more consistent with my misses? 

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Yeah not sure 2i/9i is better for “more people” than driver/wedge 

4 minutes ago, andrew.weyrens said:

I have been toying with this idea ever since I put the SIM Driver in the back. I have an old Ping G400 driver that is still in great condition. I also have an M3 3 wood in the bag at a 15 degree loft. With the 3 wood I am not super consistent with the shot, and this could be a perfect little draw or cut, but then the occasional duck hook, or power fade. I average about 295 if not more with the SIM Driver which on shorter courses can put me in some uncomfortable yardages into Par 4 greens. I am comfortable hitting driver, and wondering if I should cut down an old shaft for my PING G400 to about 42.5" or even 43" to get me into the 250 yard range and be more consistent with my misses? 

 

If your driver shots leave you too little yardage to the green, play 3-wood from the tee box.

If you are not comfortable swinging 3-wood then use it more often (leave driver at home) and chances are good you will soon like the shots the 3-wood produces.

Shortening a driver shaft to below 44" causes creates challenges including swing weight, the balance of the club, the amount of shaft tipping needed etc...and in the end a 43.5" shafted driver will likely be less accurate and produce no more distance than a 43" or 43.5" shafted 3-wood.

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As mentioned above, cutting the driver shaft will affect swingweight. 

There is a club that has a larger head than a 3 wood, but without the challenges of the driver - The mini driver. The swingweight etc is engineered to the shaft length. The Original one is the most underused and underrated club.

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On 10/22/2020 at 6:15 AM, andrew.weyrens said:

I have been toying with this idea ever since I put the SIM Driver in the back. I have an old Ping G400 driver that is still in great condition. I also have an M3 3 wood in the bag at a 15 degree loft. With the 3 wood I am not super consistent with the shot, and this could be a perfect little draw or cut, but then the occasional duck hook, or power fade. I average about 295 if not more with the SIM Driver which on shorter courses can put me in some uncomfortable yardages into Par 4 greens. I am comfortable hitting driver, and wondering if I should cut down an old shaft for my PING G400 to about 42.5" or even 43" to get me into the 250 yard range and be more consistent with my misses? 

 

 

Your driver distance is longer than Tour player average. For par 4 or par 5 holes where 295 yards is too much from the tee box, Tour players swing fairway wood, hybrid, driving iron, 4-iron etc....The more you swing 3-wood, hybrid, long iron from tee boxes the more comfortable you become.

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Srixon F65 3-wood

Srixon H65 3, 4 hybrids

Mizuno MP63 5 thru 9-iron

Cleveland RTX 48-52-56-64 wedges

Scotty Cameron Classic III putter

 

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Course management before lopping off inches of shaft.

 

I tried a 43, 43.50, 43.75 and 44" playing lengths and though it was easy FIR club but cost me 10-15yrds.  So I went with 44.75" and all is good.  My 4wd is 42.75" not 3wd length but awfully close so yardage is often close or equal to 3wd sometimes a smidgen more.  I am in the 245+ carry range.

 

Yep, I could hit driver on many holes and have something short into the green, but I rather hit 2 iron or 4wd and have a mid to 9i or PW left.  More people need to work long irons and 3/4 wood into regular play.

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Yeah not sure 2i/9i is better for “more people” than driver/wedge 

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Related to this topic. I have a TS2, which I bought with the stock HZRDUS Black shaft. I'm not getting enough launch out of the shaft because I changed my swing in the name of consistency over the last season. I love the ATMOS Blue shafts, so I bought one second hand, but it is about an inch shorter than the 45.5 stock length of the TS2. Would any of you recommend using a heavier weight in the heel of the driver than the stock 9 gram weight?

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DHoch - yes - you absolutely need to add weight to your TS2 head to counteract the 1" shorter shaft. Shaft length is one of the biggest factors in a club's swing weight. All else being equal, playing a 44.5" driver shaft vs. a 45.5" driver shaft will drop the swing weight by apx. 6pts. That's ALOT! For example, I play my driver at D5, cutting off an inch would drop the swing weight to C9... you'd definitely notice that

 

You'll need to add +/- 12g of additional weight to the head to maintain your original swing weight. Removeable weights in modern drivers make this very easy (vs. lead tape / hot melt). I played a TS driver for much of last season and picked up an aftermarket weight kit off ebay that allowed me to play around with swing weights depending on shaft. 

 

Good luck!

 

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The long and short of driver length is which is best for you depends on which ends up in the fairway most of the time, as opposed to in the junk.  Hit it big, but miss the fairway, it's going to cost most people because they don't have the next shot.   

 

I tried all lengths, at 1/2" increments, starting at 43" out to 46" and ended up realizing 44.75" is my answer.  I very seldom miss the fairway and averaging carry 245-250 range, thanks to the new shaft.  When fairways are fast, I really like the results.

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Was curious how much distance and average person would lose by shorting the shaft?

 

I understand that everyone is different, but I am toying with going to a tour length Cobra in an effort to find more fairways.  I hit the ball about 245-250 when I catch it good and my current length is 45.5. The New RadSpeed is 46inch and when I hit it good it went about 8 yds farther than my current driver but I would rather be in the fairway more often

 

 

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4 Wood - PING G400 17.5*

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Irons - PING G400 5-UW

Wedges - Callaway CB 54* ; Cleveland CBX2 Full Face 58*

Putter - PING Sigma G Kushin 34in 

Ball- Snell- Black

 

 

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