Ping 2021 Irons

[karstens_ghost]

7 hours ago, Walkerdb7 said:

great stuff @halfsumo

 

Here’s my Arccos numbers with Ping G 5-PW and Crossover 4i (listed as 4h)

 

I think the only thing that looks out of whack is my five iron and 9i?

 

I randomly only need to hit that about twice a summer and there’s probably a shank in there so the data is not correct? That’s 205-210 club 

 

No idea how 9i is same as 8?

 

given that, you’d steer to Mizuno because distance isn’t a concern? 
 

if I picked without a fitting, I’m blindly go i500 retro lofts? 
 

With the new sticks, I want something that flies higher and is more consistent. 

 

 

 

Mate, the last thing you need is hollow irons. What you need is something with a better front-to-back dispersion. It really doesn't look like you need to chase yards. Get something you're comfortable hitting, but you will help your scores the most if you find something that hits the ball the correct height, and a more predictable length. I know these Arccos things can be a little off, but have your fitter focus on predictable lengths, and you'll hit more greens, and miss closer with easier chips.

[Walkerdb7]

2 hours ago, GatorNate11 said:

I'm just as concerned about the 54 yard gap between 4h and 5i. Goodness mercy. 

Did you see my disclaimer? 
 

a few of those clubs don’t get hit often, so it’s not perfect data right mow. Only have 15 rounds on Arccos? 

[Walkerdb7]

3 hours ago, jwb10 said:

u need a longer lob wedge....and a shorter 9

Never taken a full swing with L 😂 Do take a full swing with the S

[Walkerdb7]

Sorry for sort of derailing... started a proper thread in the proper place.

 

Moderators - Please edit as required

 

 

 

[Baron_Brad]

Victor has i59 in the bag this week!

Edited April 20, 2021 by Baron_Brad

[Shakespeare]

33 minutes ago, Baron_Brad said:

Victor has i59 in the bag this week!

And there they are.....just like the first picture that came out...looking good

[Eeecc]

2 hours ago, Baron_Brad said:

Victor has i59 in the bag this week!

Lol those are all individually photoshopped or those are actually Nike irons that someone covered up the swoosh...just joking of course...they look good

[DFDLT]

Wish I was good enough to game those 

[DFDLT]

Also Hovland had i210’s in the bag prior to the i59. Could the i59 be the i210 replacements?

[radiman]

3 hours ago, Baron_Brad said:

Victor has i59 in the bag this week!

Look at all of those grooves 👀 

[jwb10]

42 minutes ago, DFDLT said:

Also Hovland had i210’s in the bag prior to the i59. Could the i59 be the i210 replacements?

Nah

[rbilramz]

So this means we should start getting some real info soon, right?

[Walkerdb7]

Do know if these are solid or hallow? Forged or cast?

[Foreleft]

46 minutes ago, Walkerdb7 said:

Do know if these are solid or hallow? Forged or cast?

Don't know if they are hollow or solid, but if you look closely at the script close to the heel, it says "forged"

Edited April 21, 2021 by Foreleft
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[golfer1964]

1 hour ago, Foreleft said:

Don't know if they are hollow or solid, but if you look closely at the script close to the heel, it says "forged"

just like the i 500's

 

look like their replacement to me

[Konklifer]

I would love for these to be solid and to have a matching gap wedge.

[Remon]

Really like the look of the new Glide Forged from the few snap shots we have seen!

[Hedgehog]

My Ping Rep told me i59 will be expensive, that points out to it being hollow IMO.

 

I am under the impression we will have more info beginning of June.

[Bunkersarebigcups]

28 minutes ago, Hedgehog said:

My Ping Rep told me i59 will be expensive, that points out to it being hollow IMO.

 

I am under the impression we will have more info beginning of June.

It says forged in the "cavity" and the as e.g.Blueprints and Anser irons (years ago), forged PING irons always were expensive. If they replace the iBlades I just beg for "real" forged and not i500 hollow "we-forged-one-piece-and-call-it-forged" if that makes sense

Edited April 21, 2021 by Bunkersarebigcups

[Hedgehog]

15 minutes ago, Bunkersarebigcups said:

It says forged in the "cavity" and the as e.g.Blueprints and Anser irons (years ago), forged PING irons always were expensive. If they replace the iBlades I just beg for "real" forged and not i500 hollow "we-forged-one-piece-and-call-it-forged" if that makes sense

 

Yeah I hope so too, Pings hollow irons have felt horrid so far, but I do trust Ping wouldn't make a bad feeling iBlade replacement.. They have now had 5 years to design these

Let's hope these stay in the tour players bags, that would somewhat validate they feel good.

[cflo2382]

These can't be hollow, right? I can't imagine Hovland (or any PING pro) playing a full set of hollow irons. Usually it's only just a 3 or 4 iron replacement with the i500. I'm hoping these are a one piece, forged, small players CB (thinking s55 size/shape).

Edited April 21, 2021 by cflo2382

[Hedgehog]

1 hour ago, cflo2382 said:

These can't be hollow, right? I can't imagine Hovland (or any PING pro) playing a full set of hollow irons. Usually it's only just a 3 or 4 iron replacement with the i500. I'm hoping these are a one piece, forged, small players CB (thinking s55 size/shape).

I think your probably right, only way to make a hollow head feel good is to insert some sort of filler inside the head and I believe TM and PXG hold those patents..

Blueprint for me was a hotter face than iBlade so a modern players iron face can be done in 1 peace, but I don't know how forgiving they can make them that way, iBlade was almost identical in forgiveness compared to i200 because of the way it is build.

[Foreleft]

Interesting that Hovland switched.  He had iBlades initially (at least a partial bag), but reportedly they didn't give the launch angle he wanted, as they went too high and too much spin rate.  He reportedly went with the i210's because they gave him the launch angle he was looking for (after a sole grind).

 

If these bring down the spin and launch angle, decent forgiveness and feel of BP's, Ping will have a winner.

Edited April 21, 2021 by Foreleft

[geakins]

From what has been discussed, this is suppose to take the title “one iron to rule them all” Ping is very patient and will not bring out a product until they feel it is ready. I just bought some apex pros, but wouldn’t be shocked if I have a set of these also. 

[dmeeksDC]

1 hour ago, Hedgehog said:

I think your probably right, only way to make a hollow head feel good is to insert some sort of filler inside the head and I believe TM and PXG hold those patents..

Blueprint for me was a hotter face than iBlade so a modern players iron face can be done in 1 peace, but I don't know how forgiving they can make them that way, iBlade was almost identical in forgiveness compared to i200 because of the way it is build.

TM and PXG may be able to patent their particular polymer but any company can produce its own filled club head. No company can land a patent that stops other companies from creating similar but different designs. Nike made a filled head years ago, so did PRGR (Japanese company.) Callaway has its microspheres, which is basically a perforated polymer. Ping has gone the route of the external CTP (custom tuning port) in clubs like the i210. It is removeable and changeable in weight, making it better IMO. 

[maowv]

iBlade replacement with a weight screw in the toe side of the head????

 

Seems these have to be a hollow-head design or why place that screw out there instead of just tungsten in the toe like so many other designs?

 

But I agree with the previous posts, hard to believe Hovland would put a full set of hollow-headed, i500 type irons in play.

 

Interesting to see where this goes.

[ShakeyT]

These look like they would have to have a lot of weight in the bottom if they aren't hollow. 

[Remon]

9 minutes ago, maowv said:

iBlade replacement with a weight screw in the toe side of the head????

 

Seems these have to be a hollow-head design or why place that screw out there instead of just tungsten in the toe like so many other designs?

 

But I agree with the previous posts, hard to believe Hovland would put a full set of hollow-headed, i500 type irons in play.

 

Interesting to see where this goes.

Bluepints also has the toe screw and that is to control the swing weight from my understanding.

[Konklifer]

20 minutes ago, Remon said:

Bluepints also has the toe screw and that is to control the swing weight from my understanding.

 

This.

[BDowning]

4 hours ago, cflo2382 said:

These can't be hollow, right? I can't imagine Hovland (or any PING pro) playing a full set of hollow irons. Usually it's only just a 3 or 4 iron replacement with the i500. I'm hoping these are a one piece, forged, small players CB (thinking s55 size/shape).

Finau tested the i500 when they were first released in pre tournament rounds so I'm not shocked to see Hov doing the same. Curious as to where these will fall in Ping's line.