MEMBER REVIEWS: Fujikura Ventus HB Hybrid & Utility Shafts! See What Members Are Saying!

[Deuce78]

57 minutes ago, Red4282 said:

I feel a little foolish for asking this question. But Im a 5 wood player, and love heavy shafts for it. On Fujis website, it says you may sand it down to fit .355 hosels. I can find aftermarket .350 adapters pretty easily, would it be crazy to put a ventus HB in my 5 wood at .350? I love the ventus black 6x in the driver, did not like the blue’s feel. Swing speed about 115. Advice anyone?

Not saying it wouldn't work but some things you should note...the fairway/driver shafts play softer than the hybrid. For several reasons.  1st the wall thickness is much thicker on the hybrid.  2nd the shaft diameter on the bottom half is thinner on the fairway (335 v 370).  3rd At the same "label weight and then cut length" the hybrid has much more weight (and stiffness) due to original raw length 42 v 46...  I would question the tip integrity if you basically are cutting and reducing the first few layers of carbon 360 degrees around the entire shaft...it may be prone to failure.  maybe try a cheap shaft first?  

[Red4282]

49 minutes ago, Deuce78 said:

Not saying it wouldn't work but some things you should note...the fairway/driver shafts play softer than the hybrid. For several reasons.  1st the wall thickness is much thicker on the hybrid.  2nd the shaft diameter on the bottom half is thinner on the fairway (335 v 370).  3rd At the same "label weight and then cut length" the hybrid has much more weight (and stiffness) due to original raw length 42 v 46...  I would question the tip integrity if you basically are cutting and reducing the first few layers of carbon 360 degrees around the entire shaft...it may be prone to failure.  maybe try a cheap shaft first?  

I have done it with an old blueboard shaft with success. They are allowing you to shave off .015” already, to accommodate .355. I guess i could take out the additional .005 in the adapter. Just kinda stinks to be a 5 wood player, rather than hybrid or driving iron when shafts can be twice as much. Just curious if there is a reason for that, and how much of a design difference is there between the two (like you alluded to, weight, stiffness and wall thickness).

[Deuce78]

In general......The exotic (lighter thinner stronger) carbon is necessary to build a sound consistent and durable 46" 60g-70g wood shaft.  Because hybrids and irons are shorter and heavier weights.  They can use cheaper heavier carbon in those shafts.  They are pretty good at making them similar.  But the wood shaft will be more flexible than the hybrid in the same label weight....

[Red4282]

7 minutes ago, Deuce78 said:

In general......The exotic (lighter thinner stronger) carbon is necessary to build a sound consistent and durable 46" 60g-70g wood shaft.  Because hybrids and irons are shorter and heavier weights.  They can use cheaper heavier carbon in those shafts.  They are pretty good at making them similar.  But the wood shaft will be more flexible than the hybrid in the same label weight....

Gotcha makes sense. Sounds like I would probably need to go one class lighter if choosing an HB over the wood shafts. I hope i wouldnt be compromising any velocore benefits though, as that would be my main concern.

[Fujikura Golf]

21 hours ago, Deuce78 said:

In general......The exotic (lighter thinner stronger) carbon is necessary to build a sound consistent and durable 46" 60g-70g wood shaft.  Because hybrids and irons are shorter and heavier weights.  They can use cheaper heavier carbon in those shafts.  They are pretty good at making them similar.  But the wood shaft will be more flexible than the hybrid in the same label weight....

 

huh?!? who is "they?"

[Deuce78]

31 minutes ago, Fujikura Golf said:

 

huh?!? who is "they?"

Every shaft manufacturer including fujikura.  But please enlighten us why .370 shafts are less expensive than .335 shafts IF they use the exact same material?...is something inaccurate about what I said?  Not picking a fight here but its shaft building 101...

[third-times-a-charm]

15 hours ago, Deuce78 said:

Every shaft manufacturer including fujikura.  But please enlighten us why .370 shafts are less expensive than .335 shafts IF they use the exact same material?...is something inaccurate about what I said?  Not picking a fight here but its shaft building 101...

 

shorter shaft, shorter tip sections, less premium material used

[Nickiet55]

I know that this is much later than the original posts, but I have been using mine in my Srixon ZX 4Hybrid and let me tell you, these shafts just go straight with no issues. I have the Blue 9X and it just launches so easily and goes the number that I want it to (assuming I put a good swing on it of course). I have the Black in my driver and I am going to try to find a Blue Fairway shaft at some point because they are just pure and smooth! @Fujikura Golf you guys knocked it out of the park with the whole Ventus line (as if you haven't heard that enough I am sure)! 

[Fujikura Golf]

18 hours ago, Deuce78 said:

Every shaft manufacturer including fujikura.  But please enlighten us why .370 shafts are less expensive than .335 shafts IF they use the exact same material?...is something inaccurate about what I said?  Not picking a fight here but its shaft building 101...

 

There's a lot of club building discussion in this thread, so we don't want to get too in the weeds on that, but in response to the construction of hybrid shafts...the same material is utilized and our Ventus HB still has Pitch 70 full-length like the wood shafts. Pricing has nothing to do with the tip geometry. We also don't know what you're referring to with price differences but feel free to PM us and we can chat more there if you're looking to learn more.

 

for those asking about our tip trimming and build recommendations please visit this page on our site: https://fujikuragolf.com/tip-trimming

 

3 hours ago, Nickiet55 said:

I know that this is much later than the original posts, but I have been using mine in my Srixon ZX 4Hybrid and let me tell you, these shafts just go straight with no issues. I have the Blue 9X and it just launches so easily and goes the number that I want it to (assuming I put a good swing on it of course). I have the Black in my driver and I am going to try to find a Blue Fairway shaft at some point because they are just pure and smooth! @Fujikura Golf you guys knocked it out of the park with the whole Ventus line (as if you haven't heard that enough I am sure)! 

 

Thanks for the kind words!

[cubuffs]

Excited to jump into the conversation, have a Ventus Blue 9X coming in a Callaway 18 UT in the next 2 weeks.  More to come.

[AB515]

On 4/21/2021 at 11:07 AM, Fujikura Golf said:

 

There's a lot of club building discussion in this thread, so we don't want to get too in the weeds on that, but in response to the construction of hybrid shafts...the same material is utilized and our Ventus HB still has Pitch 70 full-length like the wood shafts. Pricing has nothing to do with the tip geometry. We also don't know what you're referring to with price differences but feel free to PM us and we can chat more there if you're looking to learn more.

 

for those asking about our tip trimming and build recommendations please visit this page on our site: https://fujikuragolf.com/tip-trimming

 

 

Thanks for the kind words!

By price differences, what people are referring to is the fact that the Ventus Driver/Wood shafts are $350 but the Ventus HB shaft is $200. I know the HB shaft is a bit shorter, but that is a 43% price difference, so that is what people are asking about. I think people are trying to figure out what the difference would be between a 42 inch Ventus Blue 8x wood shaft and a 42 inch Ventus Blue 8x hybrid shaft other than the tip diameter.

[Golfer_Z]

I’m really stuck right now in deciding between Ventus blue vs black (and which weight flex). Over the last year I’ve made a lot of progress on my game. I don’t have swing speed data but my drives consistency carry 270, 7 iron (33 degrees) 182 carry. My tempo is smooth in backswing but fairly quick/fast at the transition (very similar to Colin Morikawa’s). I have a mixed set of irons: JPX Forged 921 (4,5,6,7) bent 2 degrees weak with Nippon Modus 120s + Callaway Apex MB ‘19 (8,9,PW) Project X 6.5.  I like the weight of the project X, but the nippon are just so easy to swing with the long irons. I’m definitely less precise with the nippon but that may be more due to the club head. I don’t have a fitter near me who has the Ventus shafts that can give me a full view into which is best for me. I was thinking the Ventus Blue HB 8x might be the best but honestly have no idea. Any ideas? And for reference ethos would be going into a srixon ZX 18. 

 

[ob1soccer]

anyone compare the Ventus to the Recoil?

[golffeen007]

5 hours ago, Golfer_Z said:

I’m really stuck right now in deciding between Ventus blue vs black (and which weight flex). Over the last year I’ve made a lot of progress on my game. I don’t have swing speed data but my drives consistency carry 270, 7 iron (33 degrees) 182 carry. My tempo is smooth in backswing but fairly quick/fast at the transition (very similar to Colin Morikawa’s). I have a mixed set of irons: JPX Forged 921 (4,5,6,7) bent 2 degrees weak with Nippon Modus 120s + Callaway Apex MB ‘19 (8,9,PW) Project X 6.5.  I like the weight of the project X, but the nippon are just so easy to swing with the long irons. I’m definitely less precise with the nippon but that may be more due to the club head. I don’t have a fitter near me who has the Ventus shafts that can give me a full view into which is best for me. I was thinking the Ventus Blue HB 8x might be the best but honestly have no idea. Any ideas? And for reference ethos would be going into a srixon ZX 18. 

 

I’ll try to help. What driver and fairway shafts do you currently play? Just in reading this , you already like a little softer shaft in the longer clubs so the blue profile might be what you’re trending towards. 
Will the Srixon be a tee club or a mix of both tee and fairway?

[golffeen007]

7 minutes ago, ob1soccer said:

anyone compare the Ventus to the Recoil?

Which recoil? Played the F5 Proto’s for a stint and they’re pretty different feel wise to me. For me the black plays closer to the recoil I played in F5 but I’m sure it would depend on the the version and flex of the recoil. 

[getitdaily]

On 4/25/2021 at 9:26 PM, AB515 said:

By price differences, what people are referring to is the fact that the Ventus Driver/Wood shafts are $350 but the Ventus HB shaft is $200. I know the HB shaft is a bit shorter, but that is a 43% price difference, so that is what people are asking about. I think people are trying to figure out what the difference would be between a 42 inch Ventus Blue 8x wood shaft and a 42 inch Ventus Blue 8x hybrid shaft other than the tip diameter.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and project that demand is influencing price more than raw materials cost...

[Golfer_Z]

On 5/1/2021 at 10:25 PM, golffeen007 said:

I’ll try to help. What driver and fairway shafts do you currently play? Just in reading this , you already like a little softer shaft in the longer clubs so the blue profile might be what you’re trending towards. 
Will the Srixon be a tee club or a mix of both tee and fairway?

Thanks! I actually don’t carry a fairway wood. I currently carry a Ben Hogan UiHI 18 degree with the recoil 95s (carry this ~235 from the tee, however really dislike the amount of offset on the club itself). My driver is this from Amazon TaylorMade Men's RBZ Black Driver, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0778BJ9T9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_6PYBQ5V3YV2N19ND2AS2. 
 

saving up next year for a new driver bc I honestly don’t use it as much as my 2 iron from the tee given the courses I play. 
 

srixon I’m hoping will be a mix of both tee and fairway. I don’t feel confident with my current 2 iron from the fairway bc of the offfset and what it does to me mentally ( I just feel like I’m going to push it right, when my natural shot shape is a draw)

[Golfer_Z]

52 minutes ago, Golfer_Z said:

Thanks! I actually don’t carry a fairway wood. I currently carry a Ben Hogan UiHI 18 degree with the recoil 95s (carry this ~235 from the tee, however really dislike the amount of offset on the club itself). My driver is this from Amazon TaylorMade Men's RBZ Black Driver, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0778BJ9T9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_6PYBQ5V3YV2N19ND2AS2. 
 

saving up next year for a new driver bc I honestly don’t use it as much as my 2 iron from the tee given the courses I play. 
 

srixon I’m hoping will be a mix of both tee and fairway. I don’t feel confident with my current 2 iron from the fairway bc of the offfset and what it does to me mentally ( I just feel like I’m going to push it right, when my natural shot shape is a draw)

Correction sorry my current 2iron shaft is UST Recoil 780-F4/Stiff (86g). Shaft feels good if not a little light

[Latetogolf76]

I have blue 9x in 18/22 pxg gen 2 hybrids and find they feel really soft launch and spin a bit high may have to try the black 9tx or go back to tensei pro white tx 

[Htk084]

Should you tip a blue 9x in a 3 hybrid?  My clubhead speed is about 115-117 with the driver. Thank you

[TLUBulldogGolf]

I put a black 10-TX in my 818 in place of a Tensei White 100-X, not sure if it not being the TX Tensei was the difference but the Ventus is so much more stable and consistent for me. I can turn it over when needed but I don't seem to get many left to left shots with it, and dispersion feels much tighter overall. 

 

 

6 hours ago, Htk084 said:

Should you tip a blue 9x in a 3 hybrid?  My clubhead speed is about 115-117 with the driver. Thank you

 

Not a direct comparison but I did not tip the 10-TX for a 19* hybrid and it's plenty stable, I'm 114-116 range. You might consider tipping the blue slightly depending on you typical flight/miss. 

[getitdaily]

8 hours ago, Htk084 said:

Should you tip a blue 9x in a 3 hybrid?  My clubhead speed is about 115-117 with the driver. Thank you

My 9x blue is tipped 1/2 inch. I'm 108-115. It's perfect in my 21* ts2 (lofted down). 

 

It really depends on what hybrid head it's going into. If you use a low spin hybrid like ts3 then I don't think it needs to be tipped. If you use a more forgiving hybrid like ts2 then a little tipping can help control spin. 

 

You really have to know if your hybrid is a low spin or high spin model and go from there. I wouldn't tip more than an inch on it. The 9x is very stout with no tipping.

[Htk084]

21 minutes ago, getitdaily said:

My 9x blue is tipped 1/2 inch. I'm 108-115. It's perfect in my 21* ts2 (lofted down). 

 

It really depends on what hybrid head it's going into. If you use a low spin hybrid like ts3 then I don't think it needs to be tipped. If you use a more forgiving hybrid like ts2 then a little tipping can help control spin. 

 

You really have to know if your hybrid is a low spin or high spin model and go from there. I wouldn't tip more than an inch on it. The 9x is very stout with no tipping.

very interesting thank you.  It’s going in a ping g425 3 hybrid.  I’m not sure if it’s a spinny model since I have not yet hit it, I’m just ordering it with this shaft. 

Edited July 23, 2021 by Htk084

[getitdaily]

12 minutes ago, Htk084 said:

very interesting thank you.  It’s going in a ping g425 3 hybrid.  I’m not sure if it’s a spinny model since I have not yet hit it, I’m just ordering it with this shaft. 

Order it 1/2 inch long and tipped 1/2. Then hit it. If you need a bit more spin reduction then chop the other 1/2 off the tip. If your launch and spin windows are good then chop the extra 1/2 off the grip end.

 

Just know that the club will come a touch swingweight heavy unless ping adjusts swingweight for length. You may have to add headweight if you chop the 1/2 off the grip end.

Edited July 23, 2021 by getitdaily

[Htk084]

5 hours ago, getitdaily said:

Order it 1/2 inch long and tipped 1/2. Then hit it. If you need a bit more spin reduction then chop the other 1/2 off the tip. If your launch and spin windows are good then chop the extra 1/2 off the grip end.

 

Just know that the club will come a touch swingweight heavy unless ping adjusts swingweight for length. You may have to add headweight if you chop the 1/2 off the grip end.

That’s a really good call.  So you don’t think straight in with this shaft?  Cause I can’t go back if it’s already tipped obviously 

[getitdaily]

34 minutes ago, Htk084 said:

That’s a really good call.  So you don’t think straight in with this shaft?  Cause I can’t go back if it’s already tipped obviously 

My experience with ping hybrids is they spin a bit more than avg. I haven't hit the 425 tho. Best bet is to get it untipped and +1 inch so you can tip as much as you need. 

[golffeen007]

1 hour ago, Htk084 said:

That’s a really good call.  So you don’t think straight in with this shaft?  Cause I can’t go back if it’s already tipped obviously 

For what it's worth , I'm slightly north of you in SS and I tipped a 10x blue HB 1/2" in the 425 2 hybrid and it worked out great. 

Although , If you call Fujikura about tipping the Ventus in a 2/3 hybrid , they'll say it isn't recommended , but it was ideal for what I was wanting. 

Edited July 23, 2021 by golffeen007

[Htk084]

25 minutes ago, golffeen007 said:

For what it's worth , I'm slightly north of you in SS and I tipped a 10x blue HB 1/2" in the 425 2 hybrid and it worked out great. 

Although , If you call Fujikura about tipping the Ventus in a 2/3 hybrid , they'll say it isn't recommended , but it was ideal for what I was wanting. 

What’s your speed?  Thanks for sharing!

[Htk084]

51 minutes ago, getitdaily said:

My experience with ping hybrids is they spin a bit more than avg. I haven't hit the 425 tho. Best bet is to get it untipped and +1 inch so you can tip as much as you need. 

that’s a really good cool.  I might just do the .5” though just hope it isn’t too stiff

[getitdaily]

7 minutes ago, Htk084 said:

that’s a really good cool.  I might just do the .5” though just hope it isn’t too stiff

1/2 at your speed won't be too stiff. I'm slower than you and have mine 1/2 tipped. It's perfect for me in the head I have it in.