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I've been reading about supposed quality control issues with some Srixon balls. That has not been my experience- although I do feel the 2019 is a more easily scuffable than the prior iteration. I presume this has to do with the softer covers.

I have Z-Stars that are made in Japan and some that are made in Indonesia. If anything one of the reasons that I have consistently purchased Z-Stars is consistency. MGS seemed to confirm this in their 2019 ball tests where Srixon Z-Star and the Pro V1's along with the B-Stone Tour B X were the balls with the least variability. 

 

Anyone experiencing issues with the regular Z-Stars?

 

I think the increasing pressure to soften the "feel" of tour balls while asking that they be very long off the tee has made the covers more susceptible to scuffing.

 

I haven't noticed issues with the seem but then again I haven't looked with my reading glasses.

 

What say you?

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As you mentioned, the Z Stars are produced in both locations however I doubt that there are any inherent QC problems with either location given that the ball production process is largely automated.

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As you mentioned, the Z Stars are produced in both locations however I doubt that there are any inherent QC problems with either location given that the ball production process is largely automated.

 

Here are the few “issues” that have popped up recently:

 

1) MyGolf$py ball lab findings of relatively wide compression tolerances for the Q Star Tour. TC mentioned in a podcast that he saw a trend with lower price point models bring less consistent ball to ball that was fairly widespread across the industry. The Z Star faired better when tested so if anything, the lower target price point is the factor vs the manufacturing location. It would be difficult to determine if one location produced a more consistent end result than the other without testing a ridiculously large sample size of each.

 

2) Cover seam wear. Srixon’s method for multilayer balls is fairly unique in that the mantle layer is molded with a raised flange which the 2 cover pieces are joined to (pic of a core/mantle below). Due to how extremely thin their covers are as well as their finishing applications (paint and spin skin overcoat), repeated impact wears through these finish layers exposing the seam. Srixon has confirmed that this is cosmetic and does not impact performance (although this is a bad look so hopefully this is addressed in the next generation). 
 

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3) Z Star XV cracking/cover splitting. There have been examples of cracking straight through to the core as well as cover splitting similar to last year’s KSig that was recalled at very high swing speeds (I believe J13 posted some pics in his witb thread). Not downplaying the reports because it is not acceptable under the normal course of play, but I’d be willing to bet that the failure rate is extremely low and limited to fairly high swing speeds. The cover splitting occupancies are likely due to the extremely thin TPU cover which is also likely the culprit of the decline in cover durability with the last couple of generations. 

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2 hours ago, storm319 said:

As you mentioned, the Z Stars are produced in both locations however I doubt that there are any inherent QC problems with either location given that the ball production process is largely automated.

 

Here are the few “issues” that have popped up recently:

 

1) MyGolf$py ball lab findings of relatively wide compression tolerances for the Q Star Tour. TC mentioned in a podcast that he saw a trend with lower price point models bring less consistent ball to ball that was fairly widespread across the industry. The Z Star faired better when tested so if anything, the lower target price point is the factor vs the manufacturing location. It would be difficult to determine if one location produced a more consistent end result than the other without testing a ridiculously large sample size of each.

 

2) Cover seam wear. Srixon’s method for multilayer balls is fairly unique in that the mantle layer is molded with a raised flange which the 2 cover pieces are joined to (pic of a core/mantle below). Due to how extremely thin their covers are as well as their finishing applications (paint and spin skin overcoat), repeated impact wears through these finish layers exposing the seam. Srixon has confirmed that this is cosmetic and does not impact performance (although this is a bad look so hopefully this is addressed in the next generation). 
 

image.jpeg.b53c8867cad9711436a976f4196d9dea.jpeg


3) Z Star XV cracking/cover splitting. There have been examples of cracking straight through to the core as well as cover splitting similar to last year’s KSig that was recalled at very high swing speeds (I believe J13 posted some pics in his witb thread). Not downplaying the reports because it is not acceptable under the normal course of play, but I’d be willing to bet that the failure rate is extremely low and limited to fairly high swing speeds. The cover splitting occupancies are likely due to the extremely thin TPU cover which is also likely the culprit of the decline in cover durability with the last couple of generations. 

what a great reply- thank you

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