What do y'all think about Bianca P.

[phizzy30]

Hey guys I've been watching a lot of Bianca P. and the girl is a beast off the tee and has a pretty good short game.  I really like her action with driver.  Really goes after it, produces a lot of lag and her stability and balance through the entire swing is a marvel to see.  One slight drawback maybe that she hangs back a touch but I've talked to a lot of golf instructors that that's ok with driver.  She's obviously very strong especially in her core.  So what do y'all think? 

[Golf Dino]

IMHO, Bianca is definitely the real deal, she just needs more "reps" to get into the feel of the game more.  She is struggling with her long game (irons & approaches) ... now I don't know if it is because of the missed fairways or just her iron game not being as strong as it needs to be.  Her putting stats show her being good on some days and not so good on others ... which leads me to conclude (just based on the stats only) that her long game is adding pressure on her putting as she is hitting less GIR than the perennial contenders and elites such as SYK, In Bee, Brooke, Minjee, and these past few events -- Ally McDonald.  (here is where it would be so helpful to have some sort of statistics measuring the "proximity to the hole"). 

 

Nonetheless, I think Bianca will figure it out ... this is a big year for her in terms of having to learn to manage her own affairs (golfwise), assume greater responsibility for travel, accommodations, practice, caddies, etc.  Anyway, just my two cents from the casual golf fan. 😄 

[HMHS]

She just needs opportunities to play, her priority ranking #167 is what's holding her back early on (lack of experience)... Bianca's iron feel is her weakness - she knows she needs work on it and is doing so... putting and driving is her strength - her putting stroke is fine (in my own view)...  Mental game is her strength - which is key as she catches/improves on  her GIR stats - she gets it to 75% or so consistently she's in contention, she's less than that, she's mediocre... but she's made 7 straight cuts, how's that?  I expect her to play better in majors, both her game and her nature/temperament will dictate that -- she thrives on pressure -- as in thrives and wants it...  She's chill too outside the course -- not the cerebral Bryson type, on the contrary, as you guys have seen on the KPMG...  the major time she uses analytics is when she's practicing - practice with a purpose, she always says 🙂

 

Needless to say, I'm a fan and avid supporter! 🙂

[HMHS]

Stating the obvious but not all golfers are well off...

 

https://www.tampabay.com/sports/2020/11/21/bianca-pagdanganan-swings-hard-dreams-big-takes-golf-world-by-storm/?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true&fbclid=IwAR3lQ0iIyQY4lDgrMkRMZsC_K-t9_gofdtdJQNOZ2PdfT4t8USeS1HyC11Y

Edited November 22, 2020 by HMHS

[Argonne69]

She has a relatively new caddie. I believe her looped at Augusta National, but hasn't seen the vast majority of the courses. They seem like a good team, and will most likely mature together, but I'm curious how his lack of experience may be a factor at this point. That said, it's difficult for a rookie to pick up a veteran.

 

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51 minutes ago, Argonne69 said:

She has a relatively new caddie. I believe her looped at Augusta National, but hasn't seen the vast majority of the courses. They seem like a good team, and will most likely mature together, but I'm curious how his lack of experience may be a factor at this point. That said, it's difficult for a rookie to pick up a veteran.

 

True, though one would think it would be less difficult for a rookie with Bianca's very apparent talents especially this year with so many international players being away from the tour after the restart.

[HMHS]

2 hours ago, Argonne69 said:

She has a relatively new caddie. I believe her looped at Augusta National, but hasn't seen the vast majority of the courses. They seem like a good team, and will most likely mature together, but I'm curious how his lack of experience may be a factor at this point. That said, it's difficult for a rookie to pick up a veteran.

 

She "hired" the caddie at Inverness... Inverness has a caddie program -- he's an Evan Scholar -- I too am curious how the "lack of experience" can offset "smarts" (can't argue with the caddy being "smart", at least book smart).  Curious to see you guys' thoughts on caddie selection... on the one hand, the player has final say (of course), on the other, an experienced caddie can indeed "change the player" (both to become better or make it all the more confusing for the player).   Based on what I've seen so far, he's a good caddie... 🙂

Edited November 22, 2020 by HMHS

[Argonne69]

Haven't seen enough of her to see if the caddie is helping or hurting. An experienced caddie will know the course, having played it many times. This year is a bit odd given that they've played quite a few courses for the first time, so that experience isn't as important. 

 

[HMHS]

1 hour ago, Argonne69 said:

Haven't seen enough of her to see if the caddie is helping or hurting. An experienced caddie will know the course, having played it many times. This year is a bit odd given that they've played quite a few courses for the first time, so that experience isn't as important. 

 

good point on the new courses... 

Edited November 22, 2020 by HMHS

[Stooch]

Well distance is gonna be a big factor in helping her, distance always plays.  But my favorite metrics  for judging players is scoring average.  Bianca is currently 14th with 70.68 in her rookie season and if you compare her with my favorite player Brooke who in her 1st full season 2016 (her rookie season only consisted of 2-3 events as all her good performances in 2015 didn't count as she was a non-member) Brooke's scoring average was 70.37 and never been above 70 since.  I might have missed a name but no other of this years rookies are even close and last season's big names like Kupcho and Fassi are currently a full stroke behind in scoring average.  If you can drop that scoring average below 70 it is one of the greatest indicators of being a winner on the LPGA tour and if she does get  her scoring average under 70 I predict she'll be winning a tournament every season.  2020 is a strange year that might not play out this year with the scoring average trend but 5 players currently have a sub 70 scoring average and 3 have wins and 2 players Nasa and Brooke although no wins are playing at a very high caliber, Nasa has a 56% top 10 rate and Brooke has a 63% top 10 rate with 4 in a row and 2 of those Majors.  So if Bianca continues to improve on that scoring average and gets it sub 70, she'll will be there with all the big names. 🙂

[SwooshLT]

52 minutes ago, Stooch said:

Well distance is gonna be a big factor in helping her, distance always plays.  But my favorite metrics  for judging players is scoring average.  Bianca is currently 14th with 70.68 in her rookie season and if you compare her with my favorite player Brooke who in her 1st full season 2016 (her rookie season only consisted of 2-3 events as all her good performances in 2015 didn't count as she was a non-member) Brooke's scoring average was 70.37 and never been above 70 since.  I might have missed a name but no other of this years rookies are even close and last season's big names like Kupcho and Fassi are currently a full stroke behind in scoring average.  If you can drop that scoring average below 70 it is one of the greatest indicators of being a winner on the LPGA tour and if she does get  her scoring average under 70 I predict she'll be winning a tournament every season.  2020 is a strange year that might not play out this year with the scoring average trend but 5 players currently have a sub 70 scoring average and 3 have wins and 2 players Nasa and Brooke although no wins are playing at a very high caliber, Nasa has a 56% top 10 rate and Brooke has a 63% top 10 rate with 4 in a row and 2 of those Majors.  So if Bianca continues to improve on that scoring average and gets it sub 70, she'll will be there with all the big names. 🙂

Well stated!

[phizzy30]

On 11/23/2020 at 7:22 AM, Stooch said:

Well distance is gonna be a big factor in helping her, distance always plays.  But my favorite metrics  for judging players is scoring average.  Bianca is currently 14th with 70.68 in her rookie season and if you compare her with my favorite player Brooke who in her 1st full season 2016 (her rookie season only consisted of 2-3 events as all her good performances in 2015 didn't count as she was a non-member) Brooke's scoring average was 70.37 and never been above 70 since.  I might have missed a name but no other of this years rookies are even close and last season's big names like Kupcho and Fassi are currently a full stroke behind in scoring average.  If you can drop that scoring average below 70 it is one of the greatest indicators of being a winner on the LPGA tour and if she does get  her scoring average under 70 I predict she'll be winning a tournament every season.  2020 is a strange year that might not play out this year with the scoring average trend but 5 players currently have a sub 70 scoring average and 3 have wins and 2 players Nasa and Brooke although no wins are playing at a very high caliber, Nasa has a 56% top 10 rate and Brooke has a 63% top 10 rate with 4 in a row and 2 of those Majors.  So if Bianca continues to improve on that scoring average and gets it sub 70, she'll will be there with all the big names. 🙂

Brooke H. is a top 10 machine.  Seems like she is at the top or near the top every time she tees it up.  She is very consistent and has the distance to compete with the best of them week in and week out.  I think where she lacks is with her short game especially putting from the tournaments I have seen her play in.