My kid stole my irons/wedges looking for new(old) Mizzy set

[FujiVT]

I'm looking for some input here on irons since I have not even looked at new gear in forever.  I'm somewhere between a 6-10 index, and am looking for OLDER Mizuno irons.

 

I used to play MP60s and got along well with them, I decided that I wanted more forgiveness and switched to MX-200 and played those for a bit until they were just too damn ugly stand over so I switched to the TM 300 forged which I really enjoy the look, but can be harsh on mishits.  My son is taking the MX-200, so I am looking for another set of Mizzys that is more pleasing than the MX-200.  I'm looking at MP-64, MP-53, MP-54.  I am leaning towards the 64s.  Would those be considered more or less forgiving than the TM 300 forged?

 

Thanks!

[llamont]

I think the MP-53s would be more forgiving than the TM300s because the 53s are more of a game improvement pocket cavity where the 64s are true players cavity backs that offer minimal forgiveness IMO. 
 

Here’s an old Mark Crossfield review of the MP-53s and MP-64s. 

 

Prior to the Pandemic, I picked up sets of MP-57 and MP-67 irons in very good condition with standard specs and DG S300 shafts.  They’re both extremely smooth and I would recommend giving them a try if possible. 

Edited November 21, 2020 by llamont

[setter02]

53's or 54's both solid options.

[hagimihale]

The TM-300 have several characteristics we are looking for: Forged, perimeter weighted, cavity back, and a sole wider than a true blade (but less so than a game improvement club)

 

MP-64 would likely be less forgiving than your TM 300.  64s have some perimeter weighting but are really close to being a classic blade otherwise.  Feel great when struck well, but can be harsh when not.

 

I think the MP-53s will be more forgiving. I've hit them and they are great clubs.  Similar perimeter weighting but more cavity back than the TM-300.  The face feels a bit hot and they launch high due to the undercut channel on the non-scoring irons (3-7).  

 

The MP-54s are in my bag to this day, having upgraded from JPX-825 Pros and MX-23s before that.  Some perimeter weighting, some cavity back (but less than the 53s) and the same undercut channel on the 3-7 give them good launch.  The are closer to a muscle-back in the 8-PW.  They feel dense and solid when struck right, as opposed to GI clubs where the face feels hot.  

 

Other options would be the JPX-825 Pro, JPX-850 Forged, JPX-900 Forged.  All have the characteristics I mentioned above.  Can't go wrong with any of them.   Hope this helps, and good luck!

[NRJyzr]

11 hours ago, hagimihale said:

The TM-300 have several characteristics we are looking for: Forged, perimeter weighted, cavity back, and a sole wider than a true blade (but less so than a game improvement club)

 

MP-64 would likely be less forgiving than your TM 300.  64s have some perimeter weighting but are really close to being a classic blade otherwise.  Feel great when struck well, but can be harsh when not.

 

I think the MP-53s will be more forgiving. I've hit them and they are great clubs.  Similar perimeter weighting but more cavity back than the TM-300.  The face feels a bit hot and they launch high due to the undercut channel on the non-scoring irons (3-7).  

 

The MP-54s are in my bag to this day, having upgraded from JPX-825 Pros and MX-23s before that.  Some perimeter weighting, some cavity back (but less than the 53s) and the same undercut channel on the 3-7 give them good launch.  The are closer to a muscle-back in the 8-PW.  They feel dense and solid when struck right, as opposed to GI clubs where the face feels hot.  

 

Other options would be the JPX-825 Pro, JPX-850 Forged, JPX-900 Forged.  All have the characteristics I mentioned above.  Can't go wrong with any of them.   Hope this helps, and good luck!

 

Fortunately, GolfWorks measures and publishes MOI as part of MPF, so we can see what is what.

 

You hit it pretty well, the MP53s are closest to the TM 300 in terms of MOI.  The MP54 are a little behind that, and the 64s are lagging behind, closer to MP4 or other blades than the TM300s.

 

The 300s are actually the most forgiving of this group based on pure numbers, but the difference between them and the MP53 is not much.

 

Edited November 22, 2020 by NRJyzr

[FujiVT]

Thanks for the feedback, I guess it's been a bit since I have bought irons seeing as Srixon was a ball manufacturer last time I bought clubs.  Anyhow... Love the look of the Srixon 7 series irons.  Just wondering from a forgiveness perspective versus the Taylormade 300 forged where they might fall?  I'd be happy with similar... Estatic with any improvement.  I'm open to trying the 5 series also, or a combo set.  Thanks!!

[dubbelbogey]

Have you ever played Mizuno blades? Have you ever wondered what they'd be like to play?

 

Since you were specifically searching for older sets, they can be found for a song. And it's a great experience. Best case, you decide you like them and find playing with blades is a) a lot of fun and b) isn't at all detrimental to your game. Worst case, you can probably resell them for what you paid for them - maybe even slightly more to cover your time/shipping costs.

 

If you've ever been curious, this could be the best time to try the experiment.

 

 

[FujiVT]

Coming back to this - how would the TM 300 compare to say AP2-718 or the MP-20 MMC.  I'm very intrigued by both of these sets.  I'm a decent ball striker just looking for a touch more forgiveness without the bulk.  Thanks!