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This is not a set wedge vs specialist wedge question but I am curious if the forum tries to match mfgr. For instance do you play Titleist irons and Vokey wedges, Mizuno, Ping, Taylormade etc all the way through the bottom of the bag? I'm not talking about the "one brand" or "staffer" question I'm just curious if you'd trust Mfgr A to make your irons wouldn't it make sense to integrate their lofts, grinds, tech into the wedges as well. 

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For people with sound technique and know how to use its bounce correctly a wedge is a wedge.  I personally would use a wedge that matches the iron set if you mainly do full swings with it for consiste

Finding new adams wedges would be a challenge!   interestingly, I think the brands have chased market share at the expense of integration... I don’t think a vokey wedge compliments a t100 an

Generally no.  I’m not ocd about matching wedges. Case in point i played mizuno wedges for 10 years and I’m now in to mizuno irons and am not carrying their wedges.  The wedge is a different beast to me.  I am ocd on shape and how the face meets the hosel at the top line. Vokeys are the worst for this, mizuno is the best for this.  High toe models solve this for me, they move weight out of the heel area and apply it to the toe.  A high toe 58 by Tm looks incredibly different than the 56 by Tm. As for technology they are all pretty similar because their shapes are all the same.   I’m looking for a cavity back 54 for more forgiveness on all types of shots.  

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PONDERING: Ventus Red 60x, Aldila RIP 60x

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Ben Hogan VKTR+ 19 UST Recoil ES 95 F5 X 
Mizuno JPX 921 Forged 5-GW Nippon Modus Pro 120X 1 Flat

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To me a blade wedge looks way different than most irons, even from the same MFR. My last set, my Apex Pro irons had totally different looks at address to my mack daddy wedges. So i played the same company, but there wasn't much reason for it other than i got them for free

 

Most of the time though, i play GW and SW as actual set irons if i can. But that is only because i rarely use these clubs for finesse shots. 

 

Basically everything from 50yds and in i use an LW that i pick based on what i like to look at, regardless of MFR. I use a Vokey right now and prior to that hadn't played anything Titleist since like Aught' 7

Callaway Mavrik Max 9 w/Hzrdus Smoke Black 80
Callaway Epic SubZero 13 w/ Matrix Black Tie 80
Ping G400 Crossover 20 w/KBS Tour Prototype 85
Ping G410 4-SW w/S300
Titleist Vokey SM8 60 M grind

Deschamps Blade 375g

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2 minutes ago, MtlJeff said:

To me a blade wedge looks way different than most irons, even from the same MFR. My last set, my Apex Pro irons had totally different looks at address to my mack daddy wedges. So i played the same company, but there wasn't much reason for it other than i got them for free

 

Most of the time though, i play GW and SW as actual set irons if i can. But that is only because i rarely use these clubs for finesse shots. 

 

Basically everything from 50yds and in i use an LW that i pick based on what i like to look at, regardless of MFR. I use a Vokey right now and prior to that hadn't played anything Titleist since like Aught' 7

Agree. I pull the 58 out 90 percent of the time from 100 yards and in although I’m trying to work on using the gap wedge more around the greens. 

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Ben Hogan VKTR+ 19 UST Recoil ES 95 F5 X 
Mizuno JPX 921 Forged 5-GW Nippon Modus Pro 120X 1 Flat

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I don't have matching wedges, and only would match if they were the wedges that I liked to look at the best. I do match all of my wedges to one another (same generation, color). But wedge look is very personal, I think. For me, Vokey looks great, as did say the MD3, but the MD4 looked weird. It's personal, I suppose.

Ping G400LST VA Drago 65

Cobra F8+ 3W / 5W VA Slay 75

PXG Gen2 0317x 4H VA Slay 85

PXG Gen3 0311T 5-PW Oban CT 115

Titleist Vokey SM7 50/54/60 Oban CT 115

TaylorMade Spider X

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Finding new adams wedges would be a challenge!

 

interestingly, I think the brands have chased market share at the expense of integration... I don’t think a vokey wedge compliments a t100 any better than a Cleveland wedge does. 
 

I think ping does a good job at this, but I know more people with 13 ping clubs than any other brand.

 

the concept is one I’ve been thinking about, but I think my next set of wedges will be more forgiving pitching wedge and gap wedge, followed by more blade sand and lob wedge... I’d match brands for that (cbx2, then rtx with Cleveland, for example)... but my 9 iron will be whatever brand of irons I’m playing and won’t change because of the Cleveland wedges (though the new srixon look great!)

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9.5 Cobra LTD Pro with Aldila Silver 110

13 Degree Adams Speedline with Aldila Alpha 

18 Degree Adams A12 with Proforce V2

4 Utility Sub70 699u 22 degree Proforce V2

5 iron Sub70 639 CB with S400

6-PW Adams CMB with Project X 6.0

50, 54, 60 Vokeys

Tank Counter Balance #7 

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For people with sound technique and know how to use its bounce correctly a wedge is a wedge.  I personally would use a wedge that matches the iron set if you mainly do full swings with it for consistent gapping and feel.

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10.5 deg Titleist 905R with stock UST Proforce V2 Shaft
1999 Ben Hogan Apex Blades (3-PW) with stock Apex 4 Steel Shafts
Taylormade V-Steel 5W & 3W with Grafalloy Prolaunch Red shafts
Taylormade ATV wedges in 54 and 58 degrees with stock steel shafts
Rife Island Series Aruba Blade Putter

 

"Loft for loft, length for length, and shaft for shaft, the ball will go the same distance when hit on the sweet spot regardless how old the iron."

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I generally do like to match my wedges in brand to my irons, but that is more personal preference than performance.  The only wedges that I will bring with other irons are my Edel's tho.  I also like iron sets with a set GW vs. a traditional wedge, so for the most part really only have 2 'traditional' wedges in the bag.

SM 3.5 Bag:

Ping G410 9* Plus w/ Tensei Orange Pro 60 TX

TM Sim Ti 14* w/ Kai'Li 80X

Titleist TS3 19* w/ Evenflow T1100 S

Edel VL 4-PW w/ Rifle Flighted 6.5 SSx1

Edel 50/54/58 w/ Rifle 6.0

Piretti Potenza II 365g 34"

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I typically play vokeys regardless which right now match my irons but fell in love with the hi toe 60 for sand shots and short sides shots. 

TS3 8.5 Ventus Blue 7x or ZF 60TX

Ping G410 17 degree Ventus Blue 9x

Callaway UT 21 bent to 19 KBS Proto 105X

T100S 1 degree weak 4-PW Project X 7.0

SM8 50 Project X 6.5 
SM7 54 Project X 6.5 

Taylormade Hi-Toe 60 Project X 6.5

Piretti Cottonwood II or Scotty Newport 2 w/ Stability Shaft

Srixon XV 

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Nope.  Mizuno irons and Cleveland or cobra wedges always.  

Taylormade M3 9* KBS TD Category 4 

Taylormade M3 4HL Hzrdus Yellow 63g

Mizuno JPX 919 Tours 3-PW Project X 6.0's

Cleveland RTX4 Raw 50/54/58 Project X 7.0's

Byron Morgan Deepwater DH89 w/ Stability Tour  - - Scotty Cameron Studio Design 2 -- Byron Morgan GSS DH89 w/ Stability Tour

Bridgestone Tour B XS 

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In 2016, I had Callaway irons (X20 Tours) and Cle CG14 wedges. I swapped out the wedges

for Callaways. I got a decent demo day discount for the 48*, won a second as a door prize and swapped it out for a 54*, and got a steal ($50) on a slightly used MD/PM 60*/10 U.grind.

 

The 48* replaced a 46* set PW and 50*CG GW. The two seemed interchangeable on close-in shots, and three wedges was easier to manage than four wedges.

 

Anyway, the next season I got the CB Pro Tungsten irons (see below) which also came with a 46* PW. The 9i and 48* meshed fairly well  on yardage, so I kept the Callaways. (MD/PM got bumped for 58*.)

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fairly well: but problematic when I have 105-yard shot to tight pin

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What's In The Bag (Summary as of October 2020)

 

Driver:  Tour Edge EXS 10.5°, weights neutral   ||  FWs:  Calla Rogue 4W + 7W

Hybrid:  Calla Big Bertha OS 4H at 22°  ||  Irons:  Tour Edge CB Pro Tungsten 4i-9i

Wedges:  Calla MD3: 48°, 54°... MD4: 58° ||  Putter: Ping Sigma G Tyne (face-balanced)

Ball: Calla SuperHot (Orange preferred)  ||  Bag: Sun Mountain Three 5 stand bag

For details see:  Pending (need protocol to embed file list).

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1 hour ago, dhen9 said:

Ok, so Edel wedges have now been mentioned twice. With Winter how does one get fit for Edel Wedges?

Edel wedges normally get fitted by certified fitters. Look for a golf shop that carries Edels.

 

"With winter..." Some shops conduct Edel fittings indoors, but an outdoor fitting gives you the best results. Turf interaction is one of the things considered when it comes to wedge bounce. Lots of bounce options are a hallmark of Edel.

What's In The Bag (Summary as of October 2020)

 

Driver:  Tour Edge EXS 10.5°, weights neutral   ||  FWs:  Calla Rogue 4W + 7W

Hybrid:  Calla Big Bertha OS 4H at 22°  ||  Irons:  Tour Edge CB Pro Tungsten 4i-9i

Wedges:  Calla MD3: 48°, 54°... MD4: 58° ||  Putter: Ping Sigma G Tyne (face-balanced)

Ball: Calla SuperHot (Orange preferred)  ||  Bag: Sun Mountain Three 5 stand bag

For details see:  Pending (need protocol to embed file list).

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I'm in a similar boat to some other comments here. I have 4-SW in 0211's, and my 59* is an Edison Forged wedge. anything inside around 100 or so is the 59*, barring wind.
as far as I remember, not many manufacturers use all the tech from their irons in their wedges.

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I've done a mix of everything - Cobra irons and Cleveland wedges, TM all the way up and down the bag, mostly TM wedges and then one Vokey, then mostly Titleist/Vokey wedges with one TM...

 

I've recently went with Titleist/Vokey for all my wedges from my set gap wedge to my sand and lob wedges. I don't think it's due to consistency in terms of brand or look, I just think the quality of the Vokeys is unparalleled. And it might just be dumb luck, but the heavier AMT shaft I have in my set gap wedge, the DG shaft in the 54*, and then the Nippon shaft in the 60* - which might be the best of the bunch - have all been perfect for the dynamics I'm looking for throughout my wedges. I suppose you could just get heavy stiff shafts put into whatever you're playing and have similar results.

Driver: TaylorMade 2016 M2 9.5° at 8°

3W: TaylorMade V-Steel 15°

3H: Taylormade M3 19°

Irons (4-W): Titleist 718 AP1 (21°-48°)

SW: Titleist Vokey SM7 54° S grind (brushed steel)

LW: Titleist Vokey SM7 60° S grind (slate blue)

Putter: TaylorMade TP Black Copper Ardmore 2

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Also, to the end of your original point, OP - I do like the logic of going with one maker for "anything in my bag that is built like an iron" and one maker for "anything in my bag that is built like a wood". (I happen to count hybrids in the wood category because of the type of shaft, length, and head shape. I know some think of them as irons.)

Driver: TaylorMade 2016 M2 9.5° at 8°

3W: TaylorMade V-Steel 15°

3H: Taylormade M3 19°

Irons (4-W): Titleist 718 AP1 (21°-48°)

SW: Titleist Vokey SM7 54° S grind (brushed steel)

LW: Titleist Vokey SM7 60° S grind (slate blue)

Putter: TaylorMade TP Black Copper Ardmore 2

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I love my Mizuno irons but hate Mizuno's wedges so matching is a non-starter for me. 

 

I would always want my wedges to be the same brand, but it does not bother me in the slightest if I have different irons.

I am a long way off having a single brand in my bag (curently have 5), and I can't say it's a goal of mine. 

 

 

 

 

d: G410+ | f: M3 |  h: Epic | i: 921 Tour | w: RTX 4 | p: Spider X | b: TP5x

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I play Bridgestone irons and Callaway wedges.  I've never liked the head shape of Bridgestone wedges. For some reason Bridgestone makes great iron head shapes, but not great wedge head shapes.  I played Vokey SM5's with my J15's before the Callaway's.  

Cobra F8+ 9.5* Diamana Whiteboard 60X

Cobra F9 Tour 3 wood 14.5* Diamana Whitebaord 70X

Bridgestone J33 5 wood 18* Diamana Whiteboard 70X

Bridgestone J15 CB 4-PW KBS C-Taper 130X

Callaway Mack Daddy Forged 50*, 54*, 60* KBS C-Taper 125S+

Odyssey O-Works 7s

Ball: Maxfli Tour X

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Nope, my bag has a case of reverse OCD. Wouldn't even mind doing something like blade GW and cavity back LW as long as it works and I'm comfortable with it.

D Adams XTD, 70M4X 3W TEE CBX, HZBk75S 5W Titleist 915F, D+80X

3I Srixon Z 545 4I Mizuno MP-H4 6I-PW Mizuno MP-54, C Taper Lite X

GW Nike VPC, DGP S300 54 60 Cleveland CBX, DG S300 Cure CX3

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Like many, nope. My SW and LW are specific tools prioritized for around the greens; therefore I am unbiased on the brand name and go with the company that works best for me. At the moment, I am bagging Cleveland’s Zipcores which have no similar characteristics to my 2018 Callaway Apex MB that I can see.

 

I would also like to add, I’m very trustworthy and comfortable with True Temper’s wedge shafts in either the S400 and now the Spinner for partial shots. But for my 2-PW, I prefer Project-x Rifle shafts as they give me the best results and feel for full shots. 

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17 minutes ago, Kblair9325 said:

I play titleist irons and volley wedges.


To pose another question to this thread I have modus 120 shafts in irons but s200 in wedges.


Where does everyone end up in terms of matching shafts between irons and wedges??

I play my iron shaft (Nippon Modus Tour 105) in all my wedges. To me, having the same shaft in my wedges from my irons is a much bigger deal than brand matching. 

Titleist TS3 10.5*
Titleist TS2 15*
Titleist 915 FD 18*
Mizuno MP 18 MMC Fli-Hi 22*
Mizuno MP 18 SC (5-PW)
Mizuno T20 50*, 54*, 58*
Scotty Cameron Special Select Newport 2

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