Anyone else not carry any fairway woods?

[Mike_Honcho]

for a while, no 3W...just driver and a 3H but there was a period where the driver didn't get played at all...the 3H was/is just too good for me...then i realized i needed to learn to hit the driver and 3W better...

[Fairway14]

On 12/3/2020 at 9:35 PM, FatThinShank said:

 If you're arguing against "using a keyboard to type numbers" you can't then back it up with anecdotal evidence.

 

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I think everybody would agree that it is relatively easy to type a yardage number into a golf discussion forum message post.

 

[Rosco1216]

43 minutes ago, Fairway14 said:

 

I think everybody would agree that it is relatively easy to type a yardage number into a golf discussion forum message post.

 

Wut

[NRJyzr]

2 hours ago, Fairway14 said:

 

I think everybody would agree that it is relatively easy to type a yardage number into a golf discussion forum message post.

 

 

As is typing a handicap into a profile

[Fairway14]

1 hour ago, Rosco1216 said:

Wut

 

Suppose on the golf course a player  averages a 220 yard carry with his 3-wood. Actually, a 220 yard carry on flat terrain at sea level is quite the impressive distance. Under these conditions Tiger Woods said that his 5-wood carry distance is 220 yards.

However on internet discussion forums it is common to read about 220 yard carry 4-iron shots , 250 yard carry hybrid shots, 280 yard 3-wood shots etc... But I've never actually seen a player produce these shots at a Tour event or US Amateur or other high skill level tournament fields, so my conclusion is that typing the numbers on a key board is easy to do.

[Fairway14]

8 minutes ago, NRJyzr said:

 

As is typing a handicap into a profile

 

Exactly correct. People may input to their forum profile any handicap index they choose.

[Rosco1216]

3 minutes ago, Fairway14 said:

 

Suppose on the golf course a player  averages a 220 yard carry with his 3-wood. Actually, a 220 yard carry on flat terrain at sea level is quite the impressive distance. Under these conditions Tiger Woods said that his 5-wood carry distance is 220 yards.

However on internet discussion forums it is common to read about 220 yard carry 4-iron shots , 250 yard carry hybrid shots, 280 yard 3-wood shots etc... But I've never actually seen a player produce these shots at a Tour event or US Amateur or other high skill level tournament fields, so my conclusion is that typing the numbers on a key board is easy to do.

Well, typing on a keyboard is simple. Would you suggest someone write a letter or encrypt it in a hidden message instead? 

[hybrid25]

I think that asking if anybody else doesn't carry a fairway wood is like asking the question "do you hit it far enough that you don't need to carry a fairway wood? " The great majority of golfers who play the game generally do not hit the ball far enough that allows them not to carry a fairway wood. I will use myself as an example in that my drives are about 230 and my 4-hybrid is about 190. That's too much of a gap and needs to be filled in with a fairway wood. I carry a 17-degree 4 wood for the distances in between my driver and hybrid. There was a day when I didn't have to use a fairway wood but those days are long gone. I also think those days don't exist for the majority of golfers who play the game. If it were not for Fairway woods and hybrids my game would suffer. Along with my 4w I carry four hybrids up to 31° , then I start with my 7-iron. Lol, getting old. 

Edited December 5, 2020 by hybrid25

[Fairway14]

26 minutes ago, hybrid25 said:

 The great majority of golfers who play the game generally do not hit the ball far enough that allows them not to carry a fairway wood. I will use myself as an example in that my drives are about 230 and my 4-hybrid is about 190. . 

So where on the golf course do you have a need to swing a fairway wood ?

[BIG STU]

36 minutes ago, hybrid25 said:

I think that asking if anybody else doesn't carry a fairway wood is like asking the question "do you hit it far enough that you don't need to carry a fairway wood? " The great majority of golfers who play the game generally do not hit the ball far enough that allows them not to carry a fairway wood. I will use myself as an example in that my drives are about 230 and my 4-hybrid is about 190. That's too much of a gap and needs to be filled in with a fairway wood. I carry a 17-degree 4 wood for the distances in between my driver and hybrid. There was a day when I didn't have to use a fairway wood but those days are long gone. I also think those days don't exist for the majority of golfers who play the game. If it were not for Fairway woods and hybrids my game would suffer. Along with my 4w I carry four hybrids up to 31° , then I start with my 7-iron. Lol, getting old. 

Well our bodies change with age and guys like us do not have the SS we once had. So as we get older we have to make equipment changes. See my signature it does not embarass me a bit.

[FatThinShank]

4 hours ago, Fairway14 said:

 

I think everybody would agree that it is relatively easy to type a yardage number into a golf discussion forum message post.

 

I’m not debating the ease of using a keyboard, I’m saying that you are telling everyone that certain carry distances aren’t possible because you haven’t seen them in person “on flat terrain at sea level”. You just can’t claim things because you don’t see it, a 220yrd 4 iron isn't that wild. 
 

You mentioned Pebble beach as an example, 2010 Tiger hit a cut 3 wood under a tree into 18 that carried a good 260. 

Edited December 5, 2020 by FatThinShank

[Clubhoe]

Yes an no. I have the Original One mini driver 13.5, which doubles as a driver and fairway wood. Then 16° No 2 hybrid.

[ColinKelvin]

I'm in this club.  I love my hybrids, and tried a G400 3 wood last year.  It maybe went 10 yards further than my 17 hybrid, but higher, and nowhere near as consistently straight (or indeed any straighter than the driver). 

 

There's obviously a considerable gap from driver to 17H, but I am rarely in a position where it matters, if I am honest.

[doctorgriffo]

Being locked down last spring with a launch monitor was very informative for me, and led to a weird bag of clubs that work for me. 8deg driver to a 17deg hybrid - I left out my 3 wood this summer, and first time out I laid up on all par 5s at Pebble and birdied 3 of the 4 - that sealed my 3 wood’s fate. 3 wood is too prone to a big hook that ends in big trouble, even off the tee.

I also had a 21 and 24 deg hybrid, but the launch monitor showed that they went exactly the same distance, so now I carry a 24deg x forged UT  and a 24 deg hybrid - different flight and distances, and the UT fills the gap to the 17deg hybrid.

[uglande]

If I stick with a two-driver setup going into next year (we'll see), and if my HMBs perform how I want them to after getting re-shafted, I might move to ...

 

Driver 8.0

Driver 11.5

2-iron utility

4-iron utility

 

But it's more likely I'll swap at least one of these out for a FW.

[hybrid25]

On 12/5/2020 at 4:40 PM, BIG STU said:

Well our bodies change with age and guys like us do not have the SS we once had. So as we get older we have to make equipment changes. See my signature it does not embarass me a bit.

Lol, if it weren't for fw's, hybrids, my game would suffer. 

Driver

4w

4h

5h

6h

7h

then to

7i

Like you, I don't have any reservations about my bag set up, it works for me. It just amazes me how far the pros on tv hit the ball with almost zero effort, it really is enjoyable to watch. I can't come close to that so I'll stick with my bag and game!

[calfan36]

On 11/29/2020 at 10:36 AM, pinestreetgolf said:

I read through the whole thread, and I'm startled by the casualness by which some just conclude they'll never be able to hit it and pull the 3 wood.  I'm not sure how anyone could look at this as anything but a huge disadvantage, unless you're short enough that you are not getting to 5s in two anyway.  I'd rather play without my 6 and 7 irons and make do than the 3 wood.  6 and 7 irons don't turn 3 shots into 2.

 

"The secret to golf is turning 3 shots into 2" - Bobby Jones

 

There are two ways to do this that are relatively easy.  One is chipping, pitching, and bunker play from standard situations.  The other is hitting the green on a par 5 in two shots.

 

I'm not saying that you need to carry one no matter what but it seems like an insane sacrifice to just shrug off potentially two-putting for birdie four times because you can't be bothered to get your swing a little less steep.

 

If its 30 versus 55, that makes some sense.

 

If its green/green complex versus 30 yard pitch, put the 3 wood in your bag and learn to hit it.  Its the second-easiest way to turn 3 shots into 2 for almost everyone.

 

But a lot of us can hit most Par 5s in 2 without a 3 wood. I usually have an iron into them

[landolakes]

16 hybrid.... what little I give up I don’t miss big. 

[b.mattay]

On 11/30/2020 at 6:48 PM, Fairway14 said:

Modern 3-woods have too long of a shaft and too large a club head to be useful except when playing from a tee box or a perfect level fairway lie.

Not true in all instances. I agree with you for the people playing 13 degree 3 woods and swinging slower than Bryson. A well-fitted 15-16 degree 3 wood can be hit from decent rough lies, sidehills, fairway bunkers etc.

Edited December 7, 2020 by b.mattay

[BIG STU]

6 hours ago, hybrid25 said:

Lol, if it weren't for fw's, hybrids, my game would suffer. 

Driver

4w

4h

5h

6h

7h

then to

7i

Like you, I don't have any reservations about my bag set up, it works for me. It just amazes me how far the pros on tv hit the ball with almost zero effort, it really is enjoyable to watch. I can't come close to that so I'll stick with my bag and game!

Had an older gentleman at my former club that basically went all hybrid some years ago. I think he carried 7 hybrids Driver wedge and putter. Man could he utitilize those hybrids better than anyone I have seen to date. When I last saw him he constantly shot his age ( 75) or better. Told me the hybrids saved the game for him

[Hertsjoatmon]

If the Callaway super hybrid was available here in the UK, I'd probably replace my Great Big Bertha 5 wood with it as my longest club other than driver (in 17*)

[Fairway14]

8 hours ago, b.mattay said:

  A well-fitted 15-16 degree 3 wood can be hit from decent rough lies, sidehills, fairway bunkers etc.

 

Yes, and playing the wrong club from less than ideal lies is a significant contributor to shooting high scores.

[b.mattay]

38 minutes ago, Fairway14 said:

 

Yes, and playing the wrong club from less than ideal lies is a significant contributor to shooting high scores.

A good 3 wood is arguably easier to utilize than the 64 degree wedge you say you have your in bag. Golf is very situational and you can't make blanket statements

[Fairway14]

3 minutes ago, b.mattay said:

 Golf is very situational and you can't make blanket statements

Yes, and if the "situation" is that the lie is sloped or grassy or sitting down in a bit of a depression then a long club is the wrong club.

[hybrid25]

On 11/29/2020 at 12:36 PM, pinestreetgolf said:

 

"The secret to golf is turning 3 shots into 2" - Bobby Jones

 

Many think that 'The secret to golf is NOT turning 3 shots into 5' - Hybrid25

[evoviiiyou]

I am going to go for one nice hybrid for 2021...just simplifying it a bit. Thinking:

Driver

Hybrid (17* something)

4-LW

 

 

[mootrail]

On 12/5/2020 at 7:05 PM, Clubhoe said:

Yes an no. I have the Original One mini driver 13.5, which doubles as a driver and fairway wood.

 

I have the Original One Mini Driver 13.5°, which is a mini driver and not a fairway wood (I carry a driver as well).  My next club is a 19° 4 Hybrid.

 

My swing plane is not suited to fairway woods and have always played DIs.  I just switch from a DI to a hybrid this past year.  My JPX Fli-Hi Hybrid is hotter then any DI I've had; much better from the fairway and still a great tee club.

 

Edited December 7, 2020 by mootrail

[Striker Ace]

I do not carry a driver. I use my 5 wood from the tee and hybrids from the deck.

[PhlashPhace]

I used to be horrible with fairway woods but I set out a couple seasons ago to be good with them.  I put in a ton of practice with both a strong 3 wood and a 5 wood and they are absolute weapons for me now.  They have opened up a ton of options for not only hitting par 5s but also off the tee.  I never thought I'd hit a FW off a 450 yard par 4 until I started hitting the 13 degree 280 and never missing a fairway.

[LukeDonaldsTiger]

10.5 driver

16 hybrid

19 hybrid

22 hybrid

5-PW

 

I‘m better off the fairway with hybrids than with woods. 5W is easier, but flies too high most of the time.