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On 11/28/2020 at 2:21 AM, DMartini said:

seeing now that we have 2021 Apex MB & X Forged 2021 in a brushed satin finish it would be great if Apex Pro was offered in this finish also as to allow combo-ing in true WRX fashion.

I actually liked the chrome better, but as long as they look good I'll be happy! I hope they don't end up having a bunch of offset like the X Forged CB's did!

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I’m so looking forward to info on the pros. Currently gaming the std Apex19. Hearing the line is stunning. Really want to go Pros this time around or the combo if available. I need some photos.

In my OGIO RTC Bag
Mavrik (for now)
EPIC FLASH SZ 3 wood
EPIC FLASH % wood
APEX 19 5-AW

MD4 52 custom by AT
MD5 56, 60
Toulon Garage Memphis or Palm Beach
2020 Chrome Soft TT

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brite chrome almost does not even exist anymore. 

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3 wood: Paradym 3d Ventus black TR 7x

19 degree UW: Ventus black TR 8x

Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility Hazrdus black 90 6.5 X

5 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X

Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x

Putter- Mutant Wilson Staff 8802 with stroke lab shaft
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Have to believe these are the Apex pros that were spotted in Schaufelle's bag the last few months.

 

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Callaway Epic Max LS 9* Fujikura Ventus Blue VeloCore 6 X
TaylorMade SIM2 15* & 19* Fujikura Ventus Blue VeloCore 7 & 8 X

Srixon ZX7 4-AW Mitsubishi MMT 105 TX

Mizuno T20 Raw 57/11@56 & 61/07@60 Mitsubishi MMT Scoring Wedge 105 TX

Evnroll ER 2.2 MidBlade Mitsubishi MMT Putter Concept 135
Titleist Pro V1x #13

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8 hours ago, bgarrett41 said:

Those are not what the Apex Pros look like. Those must be a proto for XS.

I can't make out the pro, but it clearly says Apex on the badge. 

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Callaway Epic Max LS 9* Fujikura Ventus Blue VeloCore 6 X
TaylorMade SIM2 15* & 19* Fujikura Ventus Blue VeloCore 7 & 8 X

Srixon ZX7 4-AW Mitsubishi MMT 105 TX

Mizuno T20 Raw 57/11@56 & 61/07@60 Mitsubishi MMT Scoring Wedge 105 TX

Evnroll ER 2.2 MidBlade Mitsubishi MMT Putter Concept 135
Titleist Pro V1x #13

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3 hours ago, mrmikeac said:

It’s Xander’s bag, and yes these are just proto’s. They look nothing like the retail version 

So when can we see the retail version?

Callaway Epic Max LS
Callaway Epic Speed Fairway
Callaway X Forged 21* UT
Callaway Apex 21, 5-AW
Callaway MD4, 52, 56, 60
Scotty Cameron, Squareback 2

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13 hours ago, bgarrett41 said:

I was able to see the Callaway 21 lineup today. 
 

The metal woods look spectacular. 3 heads in the driver, 2 in the fairway metals. Very excited about these. 
 

Apex and Apex Pro and Apex DCB are all new. Apex Pro looks great. 
 

Putter line up is solid. Really like both the OG and the Black 10 series.  

 

I am really interested in the difference between XForged and Apex Pro. Both will fit the same player. I am switching staff in 2021 to Callaway so I am excited about their products. 
 

 

 

Apex DCB? Thats new...Dual Cavity Back? - IE - less 'forgiving' CB then the Apex Pro which is a players forged GI?

 

Not gonna lie, Callaway has lots of overlap in the middle of their iron range between the 'Pro' version of the yearly 'rack clubs' (Mavrik/Epic/etc), the new XForged, and now the Apex line. Kinda confusing. 

 

The one thing I like about TM is their new iron strategy and how the entire line is concise (besides the 'rack club' line like the SIM/M-series) and you can make a combo set from ANY of the clubs in the 7-series lineup.

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27 minutes ago, third-times-a-charm said:

 

Apex DCB? Thats new...Dual Cavity Back? - IE - less 'forgiving' CB then the Apex Pro which is a players forged GI?

 

Not gonna lie, Callaway has lots of overlap in the middle of their iron range between the 'Pro' version of the yearly 'rack clubs' (Mavrik/Epic/etc), the new XForged, and now the Apex line. Kinda confusing. 

 

The one thing I like about TM is their new iron strategy and how the entire line is concise (besides the 'rack club' line like the SIM/M-series) and you can make a combo set from ANY of the clubs in the 7-series lineup.

Not at all what they are.

Callaway National Fitters Board/Adidas Staff/UST Mamiya Advisory Staff
AI Smoke Max - Lin-Q M40X Blue 
AI Smoke Max 3W - Lin-Q M40X Red
AI Smoke Max 5W - Lin-Q M40X White
Apex UW - Lin-Q M40X White
Apex Pro 24 5-8, CB 9-11 - Recoil Dart 105
JAWS Raw 54W,60Z - Recoil Wedge Proto 110
Toulon Le Mans - UST All-In
Chrome Tour

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I've been gaming the 2019 Apex Pro's since they were released, but recently tried the 2021 X Forged CB's and loved them.  They didn't feel a ton softer than my current clubs, but I gained a couple MPH ball speed and still felt great.

 

I really don't want to pull the trigger on the X Forged CB's until I can at least catch a glimpse of the 2021 Apex Pro's, since everyone keep raving about how smooth they look.  This is really a true test of my golf equipment patience (or lack thereof)!

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OP asked what we hope to see in the Apex '21 lineup.

 

Apex '16 series - I loved the look of the Apex '16 irons, but found them to be a little inconsistent in yardages so didn't end up playing them for long.

 

Apex '19 series - appearance was even better, a little less offset was nice too but the blade length in the longer irons appeared to be shorter than the '16 irons and therefore looked harder to hit well for my less-than-scratch swing. Also did not like the 43 degree pitching wedge loft at all.

 

Apex '21 - really hope we see a pitching wedge moved back to 45 degrees, and a little more progressive blade length in the longer irons. That's it. Really hope those 2 things happen so I can finally move to a set of Apex irons for the long haul.

 

 

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9 hours ago, third-times-a-charm said:

 

Apex DCB? Thats new...Dual Cavity Back? - IE - less 'forgiving' CB then the Apex Pro which is a players forged GI?

 

Not gonna lie, Callaway has lots of overlap in the middle of their iron range between the 'Pro' version of the yearly 'rack clubs' (Mavrik/Epic/etc), the new XForged, and now the Apex line. Kinda confusing. 

 

The one thing I like about TM is their new iron strategy and how the entire line is concise (besides the 'rack club' line like the SIM/M-series) and you can make a combo set from ANY of the clubs in the 7-series lineup.

DCB = Deep cavity back. And the pro will be a hollow body. 

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On 11/30/2020 at 9:37 PM, bgarrett41 said:

I was able to see the Callaway 21 lineup today. 
 

The metal woods look spectacular. 3 heads in the driver, 2 in the fairway metals. Very excited about these. 
 

Apex and Apex Pro and Apex DCB are all new. Apex Pro looks great. 
 

Putter line up is solid. Really like both the OG and the Black 10 series.  

 

I am really interested in the difference between XForged and Apex Pro. Both will fit the same player. I am switching staff in 2021 to Callaway so I am excited about their products. 
 

 


Thanks for the info, any idea if the stock graphite shaft in the Apex Pro’s are going to be the Mitsubishi MMT’’s, similar to the X-Forged CB?  
 

Similar to you I have held off committing to the X-Forged until I see the new Pro’s in ‘21.

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15 hours ago, maowv said:

OP asked what we hope to see in the Apex '21 lineup.

 

Apex '16 series - I loved the look of the Apex '16 irons, but found them to be a little inconsistent in yardages so didn't end up playing them for long.

 

Apex '19 series - appearance was even better, a little less offset was nice too but the blade length in the longer irons appeared to be shorter than the '16 irons and therefore looked harder to hit well for my less-than-scratch swing. Also did not like the 43 degree pitching wedge loft at all.

 

Apex '21 - really hope we see a pitching wedge moved back to 45 degrees, and a little more progressive blade length in the longer irons. That's it. Really hope those 2 things happen so I can finally move to a set of Apex irons for the long haul.

 

 

Agreed on loft. Just picked up the 19s so won't be upgrading anytime soon (thought I'd be safe until 2022..... DANG IT). I currently play 5-AW and actually bent PW and AW strong (42.5 and 46.5) to keep degree gaps consistent and align with 50 and 54 degree wedges. Now that I'm back to 52 and 56 I'll probably bend them back to standard and deal with the 5 degree gap from PW to AW. Maybe 43 and 47, and then bend the wedges to 51/55... decisions. In any case, I agree with your point and hope they will get weaker in future iterations. 

Ping G430 LST, 9, Ventus Blue 6S

Titleist TS2, 15, Hzrdus Smoke Black 70, 6.0

Apex UW, 19, AD-DI 8S

Srixon ZX, 23

Ping i230, 5-PW, Modus 120x

Ping S159, 48.12 S (at 49)

Vokey SM10, 54.12 D

Vokey SM9, 60.12 D (at 59)

Odyssey Triple Track Ten S, 34"

Z-Star Diamond 

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11 hours ago, JimmyD said:


Thanks for the info, any idea if the stock graphite shaft in the Apex Pro’s are going to be the Mitsubishi MMT’’s, similar to the X-Forged CB?  
 

Similar to you I have held off committing to the X-Forged until I see the new Pro’s in ‘21.

I don’t know the stock graphite shaft.  The rep had a sample it had the elevate shaft in it.  I couldn’t get exact release information. My instincts tell me this will be embargoed until right after the first of the year, the. released in February. 

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TM M2 3 wood Aldila Rogue 70x
TM SLDR 3 Hybrid Stock X
TM RSi2 3 Iron DGTI-s-400
TM RsI TP 4- PW DGTI S-400
TM EF 54, 58
TM Ghost Tour Monte Carlo

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