Callaway Apex and Apex Pro 21

[gremlin]

So mine were showing back ordered, but today they shipped with a scheduled delivery for tomorrow! Very excited! 

[Net5]

Has anyone gone into their fitting thinking Apex Pro and ended up coming out Apex 21 or Apex 21/Apex Pro combo, or vice versa?  If so, what were the factors that drove your decision?  

[ndkid]

Ordered pros and received them within 8 days.

[bogeypro]

Pro ordered my pros on Monday.  Didn't show any backorders as of today.  Crossing fingers they'll be here soon.

 

Ordered 4-p in kbs c taper stiff.  Also ordered epic speed driver, 3 wood, speed max 5 wood.  

[lordemsworth]

23 minutes ago, bogeypro said:

Pro ordered my pros on Monday.  Didn't show any backorders as of today.  Crossing fingers they'll be here soon.

 

Ordered 4-p in kbs c taper stiff.  Also ordered epic speed driver, 3 wood, speed max 5 wood.  

Small favour, just wondering if you can share how the Apex Pro compared to your T100?

Edited March 12, 2021 by lordemsworth

[gremlin]

One range session on my Pros. Love everything about them. Top line, sole, finish are all perfect to my eye. Ball flight is spot on where I think it should be. Can’t wait to play them Saturday. 

[bogeypro]

1 hour ago, lordemsworth said:

Small favour, just wondering if you can share how the Apex Pro compared to your T100?

I'll compare them to t100 and mp 20 MMC (I own both):

 

apex pro is slightly thicker topline and slightly more offset than both.  Both the t100 and apex pro have excellent turf interaction for me.  I find that the mmc will dig a little easier than the other two, but still exits the turf fairly quickly.  The Apex Pro is definitely more forgiving between all 3.  I was swinging my 7 iron and the apex pro consistently at 85mph.  I was flying the t100 around 163 and the mmc 165.  I was getting consistent 170 yards with 6000 rpm and 47* decent angle with the apex pro, which is plenty of stopping power.  Feel wise, the t100 have the "softest feel (sound)".  The mmc is slightly firmer feeling (typical of the mmc line).  The Apex is solid feeling, but has a slightly more clicky or techy sound.  I like it, but it isn't the thud of a full solid forged club, which is fine because I don't expect that with a hollow club.  For a hollow body club, they feel and sound excellent.  

 

 

[JeffJ1014]

I ordered my Pro's on the 3rd and they arrived yesterday after initially showing an est. ship date of 3/29.  Coming from the 2018 Apex MB's, I wanted that same look behind the ball but with a little more help.  TBH, I can't discern a difference in topline thickness between the 2.  The sole width is more akin to the X-Forged and the blade length is probably between the 2.  After a fitting and 1 range session, I'm hitting the ball through the same windows with 3-4yds more carry per club and a little less spin, which is exactly what I wanted.  Same look, similar-enough feel, more consistent performance out of my swing.  So far, Callaway absolutely nailed these.

Edited March 12, 2021 by JeffJ1014

[BeLikeTY1333]

2 hours ago, JeffJ1014 said:

I ordered my Pro's on the 3rd and they arrived yesterday after initially showing an est. ship date of 3/29.  Coming from the 2018 Apex MB's, I wanted that same look behind the ball but with a little more help.  TBH, I can't discern a difference in topline thickness between the 2.  The sole width is more akin to the X-Forged and the blade length is probably between the 2.  After a fitting and 1 range session, I'm hitting the ball through the same windows with 3-4yds more carry per club and a little less spin, which is exactly what I wanted.  Same look, similar-enough feel, more consistent performance out of my swing.  So far, Callaway absolutely nailed these.

Did you receive a shipping notification? Ordered mine 2/26 and still showing being processed with the same delivery date. 

[JeffJ1014]

23 minutes ago, BeLikeTY1333 said:

Did you receive a shipping notification? Ordered mine 2/26 and still showing being processed with the same delivery date. 

I did get one from UPS.  I read another poster here who called to check on the reason for his backordered Apex Pros and it ended up being the grips he chose - an easy fix. I figured I'd give that a shot to see what the deal was, but for me it was the *8i & PW heads.  The rep said when they got the set built, they'd overnight them to me at no charge for the delay.  That was this past Monday, the 8th.  Tuesday, my estimated ship date range moved up 2 weeks, and Wednesday I got a shipping notification.  They were on my front porch yesterday and in my bag 20 minutes later.  Maybe try giving them a call to check on the holdup?

Edited March 12, 2021 by JeffJ1014

[BeLikeTY1333]

1 minute ago, JeffJ1014 said:

I did get one from UPS.  I read another poster here who called to check on the reason for his backordered Apex Pros and it ended up being the grips he chose.  I figured I'd give that a shot to see what the deal was, but for me it was the *8i & PW heads.  The rep said when they got the set built, they'd overnight them to me at no charge for the delay.  That was this past Monday, the 8th.  Tuesday, my estimated ship date range moved up 2 weeks, and Wednesday I got a shipping notification.  They were on my front porch yesterday and in my bag 20 minutes later.  Maybe try giving them a call to check on the holdup?

I called last week and they did tell me the grips were back ordered till June so I switched them out. Also the 8 & pw were back ordered till the 5th. Still no change with back order listed as status. This is totally frustrating when people are getting them in less than a week and mine are going to be over a month. 

[JeffJ1014]

Just now, BeLikeTY1333 said:

I called last week and they did tell me the grips were back ordered till June so I switched them out. Also the 8 & pw were back ordered till the 5th. Still no change with back order listed as status. This is totally frustrating when people are getting them in less than a week and mine are going to be over a month. 

Did you order any customized lofts, lengths, or lies? Mine were standard across the board.  Maybe that's it? That's still weird though, seeing how your order was 5 days earlier than mine.  

[BeLikeTY1333]

29 minutes ago, JeffJ1014 said:

Did you order any customized lofts, lengths, or lies? Mine were standard across the board.  Maybe that's it? That's still weird though, seeing how your order was 5 days earlier than mine.  

That makes sense now. Got them 1 flat and 1 strong. With the kbs max 80 stiff shafts. 

[dmeeksDC]

Ordered Apex 5-6 separately and have been practicing with them. Very pleased. 7-G XForged CB ordered, but got a notice saying: Gap wedge will be here Monday, 7-9 late next week and the PW is backordered two weeks. They are partial shipping orders as items are ready so can’t complain about that. I did ask for custom lofts on two clubs, but that was not the issue. They’re selling a lot of clubs and really are not that far behind on orders. 

[BeLikeTY1333]

3 minutes ago, dmeeksDC said:

Ordered Apex 5-6 separately and have been practicing with them. Very pleased. 7-G XForged CB ordered, but got a notice saying: Gap wedge will be here Monday, 7-9 late next week and the PW is backordered two weeks. They are partial shipping orders as items are ready so can’t complain about that. I did ask for custom lofts on two clubs, but that was not the issue. They’re selling a lot of clubs and really are not that far behind on orders. 

Yeah just checked and my delivery date just moved to the 15th but status is still back ordered. They’ll get here when they get here. League starts in two weeks just wanted to try to get yardages worked out beforehand. 

[Kyle M]

I went for a fitting yesterday and the Apex Pro21 had less ball speed than my MP64, launched higher, and spun more.  End result was less less distance so it would have been a step back to get them.  I liked the feel and was very surprised when I saw the numbers.  I also tested the X Forged CB and just didn't care for it.  

[lawlgolf2278]

Ordered Apex pros from my course, on the east coast, on Saturday. Received a call yesterday that they shipped and received a call today that they arrived today. .5* flat, standard length shafts and Mcc plus 4 grips. 

[Lobber]

I have 4 rounds on my Apex 21 Pro with MMT 95.  And I am very impressed!  Looks, sound, feel, and overall performance (distance, forgiveness, workability) are outstanding.   The turf interaction is excellent and the feel is really soft compared to the Apex 21 non pro model and can hang with Srixon's ZX7 all day long.  There is a lot of technology packed into these and I am loving them.

[localpar3guy]

This Apex release confused me. The normal Apex's look meaty and like super game improvement clubs instead of a players distance iron. The DCB's weaken the Apex name IMO, Apex clubs shouldn't be super game improvement. The Apex Pro's appear lacking in "technology" in half of the irons. Scoring clubs have nothing to them.

 

Callaway's releases for 2021 are lackluster IMO, like most companies this year. Drivers, irons, everything just seems like nothing special.

[dalillama47]

3 hours ago, Lobber said:

I have 4 rounds on my Apex 21 Pro with MMT 95.  And I am very impressed!  Looks, sound, feel, and overall performance (distance, forgiveness, workability) are outstanding.   The turf interaction is excellent and the feel is really soft compared to the Apex 21 non pro model and can hang with Srixon's ZX7 all day long.  There is a lot of technology packed into these and I am loving them.

Do you have MMT's in your Srixon's.  If you had to choose one over the other , what would you select and why?

[Lobber]

1 minute ago, dalillama47 said:

Do you have MMT's in your Srixon's.  If you had to choose one over the other , what would you select and why?

I have Steel Fiber 95 Stiff in the Srixon ZX5/ZX7 combo set.  Subjectively, I like the feel of the Apex 21 Pro better and feel like the turf interaction is better for me as I don't take a big divot.  Dont get me wrong the Srixons are fantastic but the Apex Pro 21 for me are just  performing better.  May be listing the Srixons soon 

[dalillama47]

13 minutes ago, Lobber said:

I have Steel Fiber 95 Stiff in the Srixon ZX5/ZX7 combo set.  Subjectively, I like the feel of the Apex 21 Pro better and feel like the turf interaction is better for me as I don't take a big divot.  Dont get me wrong the Srixons are fantastic but the Apex Pro 21 for me are just  performing better.  May be listing the Srixons soon 

Would you say that the Apex Pro's kind of play like a combo set because of the cupface and Tungsten in the longer irons.  Longer irons play like ZX5, scoring irons ZX7?.  Surprised that you say the feel of the Pro's are better, especially from the ZX7's

[Lobber]

13 minutes ago, dalillama47 said:

Would you say that the Apex Pro's kind of play like a combo set because of the cupface and Tungsten in the longer irons.  Longer irons play like ZX5, scoring irons ZX7?.  Surprised that you say the feel of the Pro's are better, especially from the ZX7's

Feel is subjective as I said.  It may be a function of the shaft also.  MMTs feel a little less boardy than SF 95 not that SF feel bad.  Honestly the longer irons in the Apex Pro 21 have a much smaller sole than the Z5s and I prefer that.  The Tungsten certainly works in terms of forgiveness and the cup face keeps the distance up particularly when hit towards the center of the face.  I would also say that the Apex 21 Pros feel much better than the P770 which I gamed for a period of time.  I don't think one could go wrong with either the Srixons or Apex Pro 21s if fit with the right shaft.  It most likely will come down to personal preference.  

[bogeypro]

Pro got notification that my apex pros should be here Monday.  👍

[gremlin]

9 hours ago, BeLikeTY1333 said:

Yeah just checked and my delivery date just moved to the 15th but status is still back ordered. They’ll get here when they get here. League starts in two weeks just wanted to try to get yardages worked out beforehand. 

Mine showed backordered, then boom..they showed shipped. It took a day to get them to Idaho from Mexico. The day after I got my clubs, I got a shipping notification. My date moved clear to the middle of next month, then moved back. 

[BeLikeTY1333]

On 3/12/2021 at 11:10 PM, gremlin said:

Mine showed backordered, then boom..they showed shipped. It took a day to get them to Idaho from Mexico. The day after I got my clubs, I got a shipping notification. My date moved clear to the middle of next month, then moved back. 

So you got your clubs and Callaway was still changing your expected shipping dates? That’s insane. Mine are still back ordered but no change for delivery dates. I would hate to call them back for the second time, but it seems people somehow ordered customs after me and got them before me. Going on one month and counting. 

[BeLikeTY1333]

On 3/12/2021 at 10:22 PM, bogeypro said:

Pro got notification that my apex pros should be here Monday.  👍

When did you order and did you customize them?

[bogeypro]

3 hours ago, BeLikeTY1333 said:

When did you order and did you customize them?

Ordered last Monday, received today.    I did custom shaft and grips.  Fitter said to pick a custom grip,  even is its a stock shaft... said it helps sites them up.   Pro just told me that Callaway website says 6 weeks now??!!

[Jim53]

Ordered a 4 iron today for the pro combo set, my rep said 2-3 weeks. Stock Nippon 950 neo shaft, winn grip, but some customizations so who knows.

[BeLikeTY1333]

3 hours ago, bogeypro said:

Ordered last Monday, received today.    I did custom shaft and grips.  Fitter said to pick a custom grip,  even is its a stock shaft... said it helps sites them up.   Pro just told me that Callaway website says 6 weeks now??!!

Ordered mine on 2/26 grips were back ordered till June so I switched those out. Heads were supposed to be in on the 5th but no change to delivery date at all.