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2 hours ago, Highlander84 said:

With the Proto drivers, is there actually a difference in the head shape of the X and the X+? The X+ looks a little more rounded but it's hard to tell without seeing them in person. I know they're different lofts and CG but other than that I'm not sure.


Having seen and hit both, slightly.  Head size is similar but the X+ appears slightly open at address (it’s not) whereas the X appears very straight.  

 

 

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1 hour ago, CC Stryder said:


Having seen and hit both, slightly.  Head size is similar but the X+ appears slightly open at address (it’s not) whereas the X appears very straight.  

Interesting that the X+ would appear open at address. I actually decided to ask PXG if there were any differences, and it seems that the only differences are the lofts and CG changes. That's definitely good to know in the case that I end up feeling like the X is too low launch/spin. Then again, it's most likely the fact that the Tensei Orange I've been using lately is a complete board and just gives me bullets that dive out of the sky.

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30 minutes ago, Highlander84 said:

Interesting that the X+ would appear open at address. I actually decided to ask PXG if there were any differences, and it seems that the only differences are the lofts and CG changes. That's definitely good to know in the case that I end up feeling like the X is too low launch/spin. Then again, it's most likely the fact that the Tensei Orange I've been using lately is a complete board and just gives me bullets that dive out of the sky.


The head shapes themselves are the same relative to size and dimensions.  However, I don’t agree they are identical at address.  The toe of the x+ looks more peeled back where the x looks more straight...unless 1.5 degrees of loft changes that somehow?

 

 

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24 minutes ago, Highlander84 said:

The loft can definitely change the appearance. I was just thinking that the difference might be something like an LST vs Max kind of deal. I guess not though.


No, it’s definitely not something drastic to that extent.

 

 

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1 hour ago, CC Stryder said:


No, it’s definitely not something drastic to that extent.

Good to know. I'm kind of on the border between X and S flex right now so i'm trying to get stronger so I can handle those more stout shafts. That's probably the reason i've been getting mad low spin. It's too bad they don't have loft options for the Protos though. would make fitting myself a lot easier. 

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2 hours ago, Highlander84 said:

Good to know. I'm kind of on the border between X and S flex right now so i'm trying to get stronger so I can handle those more stout shafts. That's probably the reason i've been getting mad low spin. It's too bad they don't have loft options for the Protos though. would make fitting myself a lot easier. 

During my fitting at PXG Scottsdale, I hit both extensively.  The bottom line was I liked the look of the Proto 9.0 turned to 10 degrees on the loft sleeve slightly better than the Proto+ 10.5 turned down to 9.5 degrees, but one thing was very apparent.  The launch and spin were just about perfect on the + in this set up for me 14* and 2300-2400 spin with the heavy weight center front.  Sound was similar and look other than face at address is so similar.  At address, I did notice the toe of the + seeming a little open but not as open as my SIM or Max D, so it was a non issue.  I actually always turn my driver loft sleeve to the first or second open position and with the Max D actually turned it to the 4* open position o the loft sleeve.

 

The + also seemed a mm less deep if measuring the face from top to bottom.  I bet the Proto is 1mm (maybe .75mm) taller in face height than the + to my eye test.

 

All in all, I could play either one and split hairs...but going with the performance first equation and its paying off.  I have never driven the ball straighter and more to target than with this Proto+.  She is not the longest I have ever hit, but in a larger sample size I bet the average total distance is better than any driver I have ever owned and for sure FIR is at its best in my playing career.  I love it and really a little torn as I have a SIM Max 2 on the way.  Will be a very interesting shoot out to say the least. 

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44 minutes ago, evoviiiyou said:

During my fitting at PXG Scottsdale, I hit both extensively.  The bottom line was I liked the look of the Proto 9.0 turned to 10 degrees on the loft sleeve slightly better than the Proto+ 10.5 turned down to 9.5 degrees, but one thing was very apparent.  The launch and spin were just about perfect on the + in this set up for me 14* and 2300-2400 spin with the heavy weight center front.  Sound was similar and look other than face at address is so similar.  At address, I did notice the toe of the + seeming a little open but not as open as my SIM or Max D, so it was a non issue.  I actually always turn my driver loft sleeve to the first or second open position and with the Max D actually turned it to the 4* open position o the loft sleeve.

 

The + also seemed a mm less deep if measuring the face from top to bottom.  I bet the Proto is 1mm (maybe .75mm) taller in face height than the + to my eye test.

 

All in all, I could play either one and split hairs...but going with the performance first equation and its paying off.  I have never driven the ball straighter and more to target than with this Proto+.  She is not the longest I have ever hit, but in a larger sample size I bet the average total distance is better than any driver I have ever owned and for sure FIR is at its best in my playing career.  I love it and really a little torn as I have a SIM Max 2 on the way.  Will be a very interesting shoot out to say the least. 

Good stuff. Really want to hear about the Proto vs Sim2 Max. 

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2 hours ago, OspreyCI said:

Good stuff. Really want to hear about the Proto vs Sim2 Max. 

My builder says about 9days away from delivery. Shafts are already in (this needs to be simplified for sure as there is no need to test more than two or three IMO). In stock, I have basically one or two of every profile type available like many that don’t do BST.  
 

Looking forward to hitting the Diamana TB 60S. I predict in 30-40 balls I will know which one is in the bag for the year. I know the Proto+ is that good so really can’t lose here. 

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1 hour ago, Hateslowplay said:

I'm a fan of PXG in general although never tried their drivers.... hoping Gen4 are eye-catching; softer than a baby's bum and more forgiving than Mother Teresa. And black... 

if there's one thing you can count on for PXG's metalwoods, it is that they will, in fact, be blacker than black.

however, their drivers and fairways have typically been underperforming in the first 2 categories for me (although the gen2XF driver was uber forgiving).

I swear by their hybrids, though, and the original 0211 4-iron has to have some kind of black magic or antimatter working for it, because there is simply not another 4 iron that launches anything like it. it definitely lands softer than a baby's bum... from 220 out.

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15 hours ago, ShAMbotay said:

if there's one thing you can count on for PXG's metalwoods, it is that they will, in fact, be blacker than black.

however, their drivers and fairways have typically been underperforming in the first 2 categories for me (although the gen2XF driver was uber forgiving).

I swear by their hybrids, though, and the original 0211 4-iron has to have some kind of black magic or antimatter working for it, because there is simply not another 4 iron that launches anything like it. it definitely lands softer than a baby's bum... from 220 out.

We have the leaked pics of the Gen 4 drivers. They're ugly as sin. Their hybrids are awesome though. I highly recommend the Proto line for the adjustability too. Having the toe weight option is awesome and you don't have that on the Gen 4.

 

Those 0211ST irons look awesome though. They're number 2 on my short list now. I love the sharp leading edge. They kind of give me Miura vibes except on the back. 

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39 minutes ago, Highlander84 said:

We have the leaked pics of the Gen 4 drivers. They're ugly as sin. Their hybrids are awesome though. I highly recommend the Proto line for the adjustability too. Having the toe weight option is awesome and you don't have that on the Gen 4.

 

Those 0211ST irons look awesome though. They're number 2 on my short list now. I love the sharp leading edge. They kind of give me Miura vibes except on the back. 

Have you seen pics of the Gen4 hybrid? Did I miss it? Any better pics of the drivers? 

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1 minute ago, OspreyCI said:

Have you seen pics of the Gen4 hybrid? Did I miss it? Any better pics of the drivers? 

No I'm only talking about the drivers. Doesn't really matter though. You would have to expect the fairways and hybrids to fall somewhat in line with the drivers. My Proto driver and hybrids will be here later today or tomorrow anyway so I'm not even thinking about getting Gen 4. Those pics made the choice to go for Proto or wait very easy.

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Just now, Highlander84 said:

No I'm only talking about the drivers. Doesn't really matter though. You would have to expect the fairways and hybrids to fall somewhat in line with the drivers. My Proto driver and hybrids will be here later today or tomorrow anyway so I'm not even thinking about getting Gen 4. Those pics made the choice to go for Proto or wait very easy.

Let us know about the hybrid. Interested. Going to pickup my Proto 3 wood in a few minutes. 

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1 hour ago, OspreyCI said:

Let us know about the hybrid. Interested. Going to pickup my Proto 3 wood in a few minutes. 

Post up some pics of that new Proto 3 🤙

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2 hours ago, evoviiiyou said:

Post up some pics of that new Proto 3 🤙

Man this thing looks amazing. What a perfect shape! Way better than the 0211 3 wood I just compared it to. Smallish like the Gen2, but the crown is so nice. Can’t wait to hit it.

 

It came with 15 and 2x 2.5 gram weights with the Diamana S+ 70 gram shaft and GP NDMC grip.DC03F2B5-F763-4783-8BAC-A8097C58A343.jpeg.e445a712300ab673681ded1ff5bf7962.jpegE59B04DF-B22D-4BEE-9685-B3820B28C424.jpeg.b8262ec4284c4c213e5b7b1b5a92b979.jpeg695145B5-35CF-4ED5-A4C5-5FC1FA48D10A.jpeg.5d293d97072c2561bf4705d05743bbda.jpeg

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1 hour ago, OspreyCI said:

Man this thing looks amazing. What a perfect shape! Way better than the 0211 3 wood I just compared it to. Smallish like the Gen2, but the crown is so nice. Can’t wait to hit it.DC03F2B5-F763-4783-8BAC-A8097C58A343.jpeg.e445a712300ab673681ded1ff5bf7962.jpegE59B04DF-B22D-4BEE-9685-B3820B28C424.jpeg.b8262ec4284c4c213e5b7b1b5a92b979.jpeg695145B5-35CF-4ED5-A4C5-5FC1FA48D10A.jpeg.5d293d97072c2561bf4705d05743bbda.jpeg

Did PXG ever say what the cc size is for this?

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13 minutes ago, BirdieBob said:

Did PXG ever say what the cc size is for this?

I did not ask, but I just sold my TM M4 that was 176cc and this looks smaller. Cannot get over how good this looks to be taken off the fairway. I bought it just for that.

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13 minutes ago, snagy2000 said:

So tempting to buy this, but really want to see the Gen4. What to do? 

Be the GolfWrxer you are and buy both!

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3 hours ago, OspreyCI said:

Man this thing looks amazing. What a perfect shape! Way better than the 0211 3 wood I just compared it to. Smallish like the Gen2, but the crown is so nice. Can’t wait to hit it.

 

It came with 15 and 2x 2.5 gram weights with the Diamana S+ 70 gram shaft and GP NDMC grip.DC03F2B5-F763-4783-8BAC-A8097C58A343.jpeg.e445a712300ab673681ded1ff5bf7962.jpegE59B04DF-B22D-4BEE-9685-B3820B28C424.jpeg.b8262ec4284c4c213e5b7b1b5a92b979.jpeg695145B5-35CF-4ED5-A4C5-5FC1FA48D10A.jpeg.5d293d97072c2561bf4705d05743bbda.jpeg

Very purty. I have to say I love the shape and the scoring white lines on the face even more! 

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3 hours ago, OspreyCI said:

I did not ask, but I just sold my TM M4 that was 176cc and this looks smaller. Cannot get over how good this looks to be taken off the fairway. I bought it just for that.

PXG makes the only fairways I like cause they're borderline hybrids. That said I like their hybrids even more and i play a 17hy instead of any fairways

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