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4 hours ago, BirdieBob said:

PXG GEN 3 vs GEN 4 IRONS

 

Lengths are measured differently

 

1.  Offset the same;

2. Top rail thickness the same;

3.  Sole width about 0.05" narrower in G4

 

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TaylorMade Sim Max 9* @ 7* Fujikura Ventus Blue TR 5 Reg
Ping G425 3wd @ Flat setting Fujikura Ventus Blue TR 5 Reg 
Ping G425 7wd @ -1 Flat setting Fujikura Ventus Blue TR 6 Reg
Ping G425 22 hybrid @ Flat setting Fujikura Ventus Blue HB 6 reg
PXG Gen 4 0311XP 6-GW Fujikura Axiom 75 R2 

Cleveland CBX Zipcore 50*, 56*, 60* DG Spinner Stiff stepped soft
Evnroll ER7  33” Rosemark grip

 

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47 minutes ago, evoviiiyou said:

Gen4 X ordered! Should be a hard comparison to my Proto+ for remainder of 21 bag duties. What can I say, I like the AV carbon weave wit my Tensei AV Carbon shafts? 

haha this is my plan also. tensei av raw orange with gen 4 3w!

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50 minutes ago, evoviiiyou said:

Gen4 X ordered! Should be a hard comparison to my Proto+ for remainder of 21 bag duties. What can I say, I like the AV carbon weave wit my Tensei AV Carbon shafts? 

You go man! Can’t wait to hear about the shootout between the Proto+ and the Gen4 X. 

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Mizuno ST-Z 230 9.5 Diamana T+ 60s
Mizuno ST-Z 15* Diamana T+ 60s 

TM Sim2 Max 19 Hybrid Ventus 7-S

Mizuno Pro 225 4-GW DG 105 S300
Mizuno T24 Denim 54S/58V DG S400

L.A.B. DF 2.1 Broomstick

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32 minutes ago, SEP1006 said:

Just got back from my fitting. Getting the Gen 4's 5 - GW with the MMT 80 Graphite shafts. I would've stuck with the Accras (had them in all my PXG irons, Gen 1, 2 and 3) but since Covid they have been unable to get the Tour 90i's.

 

The MMT's come in right at 86 grams and everything else was close to the same.

 

Should have them before the end of the month!!!!!

Which model Gen4 you get? What is your opinion of them having played all the series? 

Mizuno ST-Z 230 9.5 Diamana T+ 60s
Mizuno ST-Z 15* Diamana T+ 60s 

TM Sim2 Max 19 Hybrid Ventus 7-S

Mizuno Pro 225 4-GW DG 105 S300
Mizuno T24 Denim 54S/58V DG S400

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49 minutes ago, SEP1006 said:

Just got back from my fitting. Getting the Gen 4's 5 - GW with the MMT 80 Graphite shafts. I would've stuck with the Accras (had them in all my PXG irons, Gen 1, 2 and 3) but since Covid they have been unable to get the Tour 90i's.

 

The MMT's come in right at 86 grams and everything else was close to the same.

 

Should have them before the end of the month!!!!!

Did you hit both the gen3 and gen4 irons? If so what was the feel and performance difference between them. 
 

TaylorMade Sim Max 9* @ 7* Fujikura Ventus Blue TR 5 Reg
Ping G425 3wd @ Flat setting Fujikura Ventus Blue TR 5 Reg 
Ping G425 7wd @ -1 Flat setting Fujikura Ventus Blue TR 6 Reg
Ping G425 22 hybrid @ Flat setting Fujikura Ventus Blue HB 6 reg
PXG Gen 4 0311XP 6-GW Fujikura Axiom 75 R2 

Cleveland CBX Zipcore 50*, 56*, 60* DG Spinner Stiff stepped soft
Evnroll ER7  33” Rosemark grip

 

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Interesting stuff...talking in English

 

 

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DRIVERS (TBD):  PXG BLACK OPS TOUR 8*,  BLACK OPS TOUR 10.5*,  BLACK OPS STD 8*;  Vanquish 4TX / Diamana WB 53x / GD AD-VF 5s / Ventus TR Black 5x / HZRDUS G4 Black 6.0 / Kaili White, Blue, Red 60x / Tensei AV Raw White/Blue 65x / Diamana S+ 60x

FAIRWAYS:  TAYLORMADE STEALTH 2+ FAIRWAYS/HYBRIDS:  R13.5( FW Rocket TI), 12.8*, Kaili White/Blue 70X;  #3 FW, 15.0*, Kaili Blue 70X/Red 75X;  #4 FW TI, 16.6*, Kaili White 70TX;  #6 FW TI, 20.3*, Kaili White 80TX;  #3 HY 19.5*, Kaili White 90TX; #4 HY 22*, Kaili White 90X

PXG GEN5 0311X, Black Label Elite, 22*, Accra TZFive, 105DI, M5

PXG 0317T, Xtreme Dark, 4 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG  GEN0311XP, Double Black, 4 - LW, LAGP L Series, X

TAYLORMADE P7TW, 5 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG 0311 Sugar Daddy II Milled Wedges, Xtreme Dark, 54*/10, 56*/10, 58*/10, 62*/10; // LAGP L Series, S

SCOTTY CAMERON CONCEPT X 7.2 LTD,  LAGOLF P 135g shaft // LAGOLF BEL-AIR X Forged Carbon Putter // TOULON GARAGE - Austin Custom Rose Gold // STEWART GOLF Q Follow Electric Cart..Carbon // SKYCADDIE SX550 // COBALT Q6 Slope

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can anybody compare the hybrids to each other? I'm currently gaming a gen2 19* hybrid with the weights in the back, and wanted to know how the 3 new models compare. I prefer the high ball flight and MOI that the weights in the back give me on the gen2.

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Callaway Apex UW 21° - LAGP Bryson Series 75-4
PING i210 4-U - Recoil Prototype Customs 95 F4
Artisan 54°, 58° - Recoil Prototype 95 F4
Artisan 0418 putter

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7 hours ago, OspreyCI said:

Which model Gen4 you get? What is your opinion of them having played all the series? 

 

I got the XP's again, why not get as much forgiveness as possible right. I'm not getting any younger. Too be honest performance wise the numbers were about the same. I was consistently about 3 yards longer but there is something different about the feel. As we all know feel is subjective so it's hard to describe. 

 

Even if performance and feel were identical to my Gen 3's I would have bought them on looks alone.

 

 

7 hours ago, hammergolf said:

Did you hit both the gen3 and gen4 irons? If so what was the feel and performance difference between them. 
 

 

I've been playing the Gen 3's since they came out. See my response above.

 

 

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DRIVER -     PXG Black OPs Tour 1 - 8* | 🔥KHT AUTOFLEX SF505🔥   
2 WD -         PXG Gen 6  13* |  🔥KHT AUTOFLEX SF505🔥
  

2/3/4 Hybrids- PXG Gen 6 | Accra Tour 90i Stiff

IRONS -       PXG Gen 6 XP DOUBLE BLACK | MMT 80 Stiff                     
WEDGES -  PXG Sugar Daddy II 54*/13 and 58*/10 | MMT 80 Stiff  
GRIPS -       JUMBOMAX ULTRALIGHT XL
PUTTER -   LAB DF 3.0 Red w/White Accra Shaft
BAG -           PXG Staff Bag

 

 

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5 hours ago, snagy2000 said:

Just noticed they increased the driver lengths to 45.5 instead of standard 45 as in the past. Get fit!!!

I am probably going to use the 45” Ventus Red (or Blue)  I currently play in my Proto +. 
 

I ordered the Gen 4 XF, 10.5, with a Tour AD at 45 1/2” 

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PXG Gen4 3 metal ; Tensei Blue
PXG Gen4  5 metal;  Tensei Blue
PXG Gen4 hybrid; 21 degrees
PXG Gen4 Ps; 5-Gap with Nippon 950gh S
PXG Sugar Daddy wedges; 54 and 58; Nippon 950gh S

PXG 38” counter balanced, PXG Mustang

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58 minutes ago, ShAMbotay said:

can anybody compare the hybrids to each other? I'm currently gaming a gen2 19* hybrid with the weights in the back, and wanted to know how the 3 new models compare. I prefer the high ball flight and MOI that the weights in the back give me on the gen2.

I am curious on this.  

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1 hour ago, JTD0314 said:

I am curious on this.  

 

2 hours ago, ShAMbotay said:

can anybody compare the hybrids to each other? I'm currently gaming a gen2 19* hybrid with the weights in the back, and wanted to know how the 3 new models compare. I prefer the high ball flight and MOI that the weights in the back give me on the gen2.

 

Check out my post about halfway down page 5 of this thread:

 

This thread is about GEN4 and I haven't hit those yet, so maybe I shouldn't even be posting in this thread.  

 

Gen2 hybrid (current gamer) was most forgiving overall in my experience, and longer than 0211 as well.  Proto was less forgiving over all, but not terrible.  However, hitting the sweet spot with the proto felt better and went further than Gen2.  Slight mishits with the Gen 2 were however, punished less in my experience.  0211 launched higher (bad for me who already launches high), had more spin, and didn't go as far or feel as good...  It wasn't a bad club, it just isn't as good as my Gen 2 or Proto.

 

my 19* Gen 2 is my alternate club off the tee, fairway finder.  I love that club.  I was interested in the extra distance from the Proto, but my dispersion was better with the Gen2.  Who knows, could probably change once I get used to it.  That being said, I did get a 22* Proto.  If that starts performing, I will go back and look at the 19 and 17.  

 

I am curious to see how the Gen 4s compare.  If there are THAT much better.  It is interesting the toe weight is gone, and I have yet to see anything confirming internal weighting as a lot of people are assuming.

 

I just love the stealth, sleeper look of my Gen 2 and Protos.  I really don't like the silver ring with the PXG logo on the crown.  Nearly every other MFG does something similar, and I liked that my driver isn't a billboard.  In other news, old man yells at cloud....  haha.

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10 hours ago, OspreyCI said:

Which model Gen4 you get? What is your opinion of them having played all the series? 

I have played all 3 three previous generations. In my opinion, each Gen iron has been noticeably better than the previous Gen. 
 

Gen 4 is undoubted better than Gen 3. Straight, straight, straight ball flight, hot face, and the ball really jumps off the club face . My fitter relayed that Gen 4 T ball speeds are equivalent to Gen 3 Ps. 
 

I am getting older, so now I am a little torn between the Ps snd the XPs. 

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PXG Gen4 3 metal ; Tensei Blue
PXG Gen4  5 metal;  Tensei Blue
PXG Gen4 hybrid; 21 degrees
PXG Gen4 Ps; 5-Gap with Nippon 950gh S
PXG Sugar Daddy wedges; 54 and 58; Nippon 950gh S

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PXG GEN6 0311 10.5*DRIVER/FUJI RED VELOCORE 6S/GP TW WHT

PXG GEN5 0311XF 17*FAIRWAY/FUJI MOTORE X F3 7S/GP TW WHT

PXG GEN3 0311XP 3 IRON/TT ELEVATE TOUR S/WINN DT WRAP

PXG GEN3 0311P 4-PW/TT ELEVATE TOUR S/WINN DT WRAP

PXG GEN4 0311P GW/TT ELEVATE TOUR S/WINN DT WRAP

PXG SD II WEDGES/56/13&62/10/TT ELEVATE TOUR S/GP TW BLK

MACHINE M2A 1018RAW CS PUTTER/ACCRA I-STEEL/SS FLAT 1.0

 

 

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I would have no use for it at all, but I really wanna try the gen4 2 wood. Ive got the TM original one which is a lot of fun but pretty limited to just tee use. I can hit it off the deck but its a low launch missile

 

obvious solution is sell the Original One and buy the 2 wood right?? haha

 

For sure gonna order the 3w today. After hitting the 0211 3w again yesterday it just doesnt do anything for me

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TM Stealth 2+ 4w ... KBS TD Rainbow 70x

TM Stealth 2+ 6w*... KBS TD Rainbow 80x

Titleist 5h 23* C1 ... KBS Proto 105 S+

Mizuno Pro 243 5 - P ... KBS TGI 110

TM MG4 50 S, 56 LB, 60 TW... KBS $-Taper 130x

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I think they both look awesome...Proto and Gen4. One is more in your face and one more subdued...for me lots of pros and cons on both sides. I am looking for a little BS and looking forward to a test with my shafts and specs 

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PXG GEN6 0311 10.5*DRIVER/FUJI RED VELOCORE 6S/GP TW WHT

PXG GEN5 0311XF 17*FAIRWAY/FUJI MOTORE X F3 7S/GP TW WHT

PXG GEN3 0311XP 3 IRON/TT ELEVATE TOUR S/WINN DT WRAP

PXG GEN3 0311P 4-PW/TT ELEVATE TOUR S/WINN DT WRAP

PXG GEN4 0311P GW/TT ELEVATE TOUR S/WINN DT WRAP

PXG SD II WEDGES/56/13&62/10/TT ELEVATE TOUR S/GP TW BLK

MACHINE M2A 1018RAW CS PUTTER/ACCRA I-STEEL/SS FLAT 1.0

 

 

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Does anyone know if Recoil 95 shafts are available from PXG in the gen3 iron models? If so, what is the up charge?

TaylorMade Sim Max 9* @ 7* Fujikura Ventus Blue TR 5 Reg
Ping G425 3wd @ Flat setting Fujikura Ventus Blue TR 5 Reg 
Ping G425 7wd @ -1 Flat setting Fujikura Ventus Blue TR 6 Reg
Ping G425 22 hybrid @ Flat setting Fujikura Ventus Blue HB 6 reg
PXG Gen 4 0311XP 6-GW Fujikura Axiom 75 R2 

Cleveland CBX Zipcore 50*, 56*, 60* DG Spinner Stiff stepped soft
Evnroll ER7  33” Rosemark grip

 

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7 minutes ago, hammergolf said:

Does anyone know if Recoil 95 shafts are available from PXG in the gen3 iron models? If so, what is the up charge?

No recoils period. They wont even custom order shafts anymore like they used to. I tried to have a set built with recoil 125 protos or MMT 125 and both requests were a no. 

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On 3/9/2021 at 7:47 AM, evoviiiyou said:

The Gen4 updated driver head cover with the white section (mimic of the AV crown) is a nice touch. 

Where did you see a pic?   Looked on the site, but didn’t see it. 

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19 minutes ago, AdExec said:

No recoils period. They wont even custom order shafts anymore like they used to. I tried to have a set built with recoil 125 protos or MMT 125 and both requests were a no. 

Well that sucks.....

TaylorMade Sim Max 9* @ 7* Fujikura Ventus Blue TR 5 Reg
Ping G425 3wd @ Flat setting Fujikura Ventus Blue TR 5 Reg 
Ping G425 7wd @ -1 Flat setting Fujikura Ventus Blue TR 6 Reg
Ping G425 22 hybrid @ Flat setting Fujikura Ventus Blue HB 6 reg
PXG Gen 4 0311XP 6-GW Fujikura Axiom 75 R2 

Cleveland CBX Zipcore 50*, 56*, 60* DG Spinner Stiff stepped soft
Evnroll ER7  33” Rosemark grip

 

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54 minutes ago, goheels11 said:

Where did you see a pic?   Looked on the site, but didn’t see it. 

It’s there under the order options...nice leather stitching and then the faux material carbon weave. Looks niceee

 

Description: 

This order includes our new GEN4 Headcovers. The durable pebble black headcover is lightweight and water resistant, with a velour interior and an internal QuickStick™ Cart Magnet that allows you to attach the headcover to your golf cart when not in use.

 


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PXG GEN6 0311 10.5*DRIVER/FUJI RED VELOCORE 6S/GP TW WHT

PXG GEN5 0311XF 17*FAIRWAY/FUJI MOTORE X F3 7S/GP TW WHT

PXG GEN3 0311XP 3 IRON/TT ELEVATE TOUR S/WINN DT WRAP

PXG GEN3 0311P 4-PW/TT ELEVATE TOUR S/WINN DT WRAP

PXG GEN4 0311P GW/TT ELEVATE TOUR S/WINN DT WRAP

PXG SD II WEDGES/56/13&62/10/TT ELEVATE TOUR S/GP TW BLK

MACHINE M2A 1018RAW CS PUTTER/ACCRA I-STEEL/SS FLAT 1.0

 

 

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Any feedback on the GEN4 vs Proto and Sim?

Callaway Tour Issue Paradym TD-S 8.5 (7.9) - Fujikura Ventus Black TR 5X

TaylorMade TOUR Stealth 2 15 - Fujikura Ventus Red TR 7X
PXG 0317X Gen 5 19  (Actual 17.5) - Fujikura Ventus Blue 8X
PXG 0311X Gen 5 -  Fujikura Ventus Blue 9X

PXG 0317T - 4 - LAGP L-Series (5) X
Miura KM-700  5-PW - LAGP L-Series (5) X
PXG Milled "Sugar Daddy 2 " 50,54,60 - DG TI S400
Scotty Cameron Holiday LTD (23}/ LAGP 135 (White)
 

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12 minutes ago, snagy2000 said:

It might be a few weeks before any of those kind of comparisons can be made. Gen 4 driver/fairway demo heads haven't even made it to the fitters.

Noted - Thanks for the heads up!
Looking forward to the comparisons.

Callaway Tour Issue Paradym TD-S 8.5 (7.9) - Fujikura Ventus Black TR 5X

TaylorMade TOUR Stealth 2 15 - Fujikura Ventus Red TR 7X
PXG 0317X Gen 5 19  (Actual 17.5) - Fujikura Ventus Blue 8X
PXG 0311X Gen 5 -  Fujikura Ventus Blue 9X

PXG 0317T - 4 - LAGP L-Series (5) X
Miura KM-700  5-PW - LAGP L-Series (5) X
PXG Milled "Sugar Daddy 2 " 50,54,60 - DG TI S400
Scotty Cameron Holiday LTD (23}/ LAGP 135 (White)
 

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I have compared the SIM2MAX and my gamer Proto+ with a Gen4 X driver on order.  Really similar performance with some certain visual and performance attributes for each. I game the Proto+ mainly for the symmetrical appearance behind the ball (SIM2 and MAX are both like the Gen4XT a more tear drop shape vs symmetrical) at set up and for the toe side of center miss along with the occasional center low miss which seem to both favor the Proto+ for me with the added weight to the toe and center port.

 

Once I get my Gen4X it will be a full test.  Stay tuned.

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PXG GEN6 0311 10.5*DRIVER/FUJI RED VELOCORE 6S/GP TW WHT

PXG GEN5 0311XF 17*FAIRWAY/FUJI MOTORE X F3 7S/GP TW WHT

PXG GEN3 0311XP 3 IRON/TT ELEVATE TOUR S/WINN DT WRAP

PXG GEN3 0311P 4-PW/TT ELEVATE TOUR S/WINN DT WRAP

PXG GEN4 0311P GW/TT ELEVATE TOUR S/WINN DT WRAP

PXG SD II WEDGES/56/13&62/10/TT ELEVATE TOUR S/GP TW BLK

MACHINE M2A 1018RAW CS PUTTER/ACCRA I-STEEL/SS FLAT 1.0

 

 

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