PXG Gen 4 STICKS (Irons & Woods)... 2021

[TheMoneyShot]

I sure hope the 0211ST has the same pricing as the old 0211 line.

[Feelingofgreatness]

5 hours ago, ssfranny said:

Yes it is

Those look phenomenal 💥

[BirdieBob]

If these 0211ST irons have a toe screw then they could be the cast 0211 replacement...or not as the cast 0211 iron could continue as a more GI iron with the ST and FB more players irons in the 0211 line.

Difficult to tell from the pics if that screw is there.  If so then they are the new 0211 forged cavity irons...much like the TM P770.

 

On the other hand, it could be built like 0211 cast iron which has no injection port but is a cavity with cor2 inside.

 

Seems odd to use the label ST as the 0311 ST IS a blade iron...milled too.

 

That means then the 0211 FB is likely the blade iron in the line and the one PXG Clark was playing.

 

So, looks like the 0211 cast, 0211 ST and 0211FB.

 

 

 

Edited December 21, 2020 by BirdieBob

[Shakespeare]

23 minutes ago, BirdieBob said:

If these 0211ST irons have a toe screw then they could be the cast 0211 replacement.

Difficult to tell from the pics if that screw is there.  If so then they are the new 0211 forged cavity irons...much like the TM P770.

 

On the other hand, it could be built like 0211 cast iron which has no injection port but is a cavity with cor2 inside.

 

Seems odd to use the label ST as the 0311 ST IS a blade iron...milled too.

 

That means then the 0211 FB is likely the blade iron in the line and the one PXG Clark was playing.

 

 

 

I think the blade on blade in the toe takes the place of a toe screw for weight....or maybe it just looks cool

[BirdieBob]

4 minutes ago, Shakespeare said:

I think the blade on blade in the toe takes the place of a toe screw for weight....or maybe it just looks cool

I was thinking of a toe screw for cor injection but it appears they can place a layer of the cor2 or 3 inside without injection just like was done in  the 0211 cast iron.

Edited December 21, 2020 by BirdieBob

[Shakespeare]

17 minutes ago, BirdieBob said:

I was thinking of a toe screw for cor injection but it appears they can place a layer of the cor2 or 3 inside without injection just like was done in  the 0211 cast iron.

Gotcha...so maybe a weld between the face and body?

[BirdieBob]

3 minutes ago, Shakespeare said:

Gotcha...so maybe a weld between the face and body?

Yes they weld the face plate onto the body, but will have the cor material in place prior to that happening.

Not sure just how the cor is set in place when that happens.

[Natural1]

8 minutes ago, BirdieBob said:

Yes they weld the face plate onto the body, but will have the cor material in place prior to that happening.

Not sure just how the cor is set in place when that happens.

 

Injected through the hosel?

Edited December 21, 2020 by Natural1
added injected

[BirdieBob]

32 minutes ago, Natural1 said:

 

Through the hosel?

Maybe!...but then plug the hole?

Whatever it is the same way as the current 0211 cast irons.

 

Probably a flexible piece of cor material is placed in the cavity and then when the face is placed over it for the welding it will compress that cor material.

PXG uses a very thin face plate, so by compressing the cor material it then becomes more supportive and provides some rebound to the face flex.

Edited December 21, 2020 by BirdieBob

[A.Princey]

11 hours ago, TheMoneyShot said:

You are on the wrong site asking a question like that.  😂🤣

Perhaps.... But the guys who get physically upset about a new release on the heels of their latest and greatest purchase, oh man!!! All defensive and protective like, "No way, it's got to be some other line they're releasing...They better not be Gen4's..".

 

🤣

[A.Princey]

11 hours ago, TheMoneyShot said:

You are on the wrong site asking a question like that.  😂🤣

Perhaps.... But the guys who get physically upset about a new release on the heels of their latest and greatest purchase, oh man!!! All defensive and protective like, "No way, it's got to be some other line they're releasing...They better not be Gen4's..".

 

🤣

[A.Princey]

11 hours ago, TheMoneyShot said:

You are on the wrong site asking a question like that.  😂🤣

Perhaps.... But the guys who get physically upset about a new release on the heels of their latest and greatest purchase, oh man!!! All defensive and protective like, "No way, it's got to be some other line they're releasing...They better not be Gen4's..".

 

🤣

[A.Princey]

Oops! Browser malfunction, my bad!

[Natural1]

49 minutes ago, BirdieBob said:

Maybe!...but then plug the hole?

Whatever it is the same way as the current 0211 cast irons.

 

Probably a flexible piece of cor material is placed in the cavity and then when the face is placed over it for the welding it will compress that cor material.

PXG uses a very thin face plate, so by compressing the cor material it then becomes more supportive and provides some rebound to the face flex.

 Obviously I'm just guessing, but yeah that makes sense. I guess it depends on the point in the process that makes the most sense to their engineers. There may be a meaningful cost component too. No clue.

[ShAMbotay]

I know a handful of people who have abandoned PXG for their never-ending sale and their new tendency to have a yearly release cycle like everyone else. Then again, I know even more people who have jumped on the bandwagon now that they're reasonably priced. They said at one point that they'll only release a replacement line when the performance is undoubtedly improved, but idk if they're going to adhere to that anymore with their never-ending sale going on. Their order numbers are way up, and they want to keep it that way.

[lakecowboy]

If those 0211ST’s have any COR or forgiveness in them I’m all in, they look amazing.  If they are a true forged blade I’m out.  I’ve got some true blades and gaming them raises my handicap a lot!

[Lefty87]

15 hours ago, BirdieBob said:

If these 0211ST irons have a toe screw then they could be the cast 0211 replacement...or not as the cast 0211 iron could continue as a more GI iron with the ST and FB more players irons in the 0211 line.

Difficult to tell from the pics if that screw is there.  If so then they are the new 0211 forged cavity irons...much like the TM P770.

 

On the other hand, it could be built like 0211 cast iron which has no injection port but is a cavity with cor2 inside.

 

Seems odd to use the label ST as the 0311 ST IS a blade iron...milled too.

 

That means then the 0211 FB is likely the blade iron in the line and the one PXG Clark was playing.

 

So, looks like the 0211 cast, 0211 ST and 0211FB.

 

 

 

So what’s the difference between the ST and FB then? Surely it’s more than the screw weights. Is the FB hollow?

[BirdieBob]

1 hour ago, Lefty87 said:

So what’s the difference between the ST and FB then? Surely it’s more than the screw weights. Is the FB hollow?

 

It appears that the FB is the "Forged Blade" and was being played by Wyndham Clark this past season.

The new photos are showing similar looking ST iron and it is likely a cavity iron with a blade like profile for the better player.

 

 

Edit:  That said, it could be that the FB (Forgiving Blade) is the cavity like blade and the ST(Super Tour, non milled blade) THE Blade.  The FB does have the screws so they are more needed with a cavity.

Regardless one will be cavity based and the other pure MB and both in better player profiles.

 

More interesting will be what happens to the 0211 Cast iron....will it be updated with Cor3 and enhanced?

Edited December 21, 2020 by BirdieBob

[TheMoneyShot]

2 hours ago, BirdieBob said:

 

It appears that the FB is the "Forged Blade" and was being played by Wyndham Clark this past season.

The new photos are showing similar looking ST iron and it is likely a cavity iron with a blade like profile for the better player.

 

 

Edit:  That said, it could be that the FB (Forgiving Blade) is the cavity like blade and the ST(Super Tour, non milled blade) THE Blade.  The FB does have the screws so they are more needed with a cavity.

Regardless one will be cavity based and the other pure MB and both in better player profiles.

 

More interesting will be what happens to the 0211 Cast iron....will it be updated with Cor3 and enhanced?

It will be interesting to see where they price the new FB/ST iron too. 

[Lefty87]

2 hours ago, BirdieBob said:

 

It appears that the FB is the "Forged Blade" and was being played by Wyndham Clark this past season.

The new photos are showing similar looking ST iron and it is likely a cavity iron with a blade like profile for the better player.

 

 

Edit:  That said, it could be that the FB (Forgiving Blade) is the cavity like blade and the ST(Super Tour, non milled blade) THE Blade.  The FB does have the screws so they are more needed with a cavity.

Regardless one will be cavity based and the other pure MB and both in better player profiles.

 

More interesting will be what happens to the 0211 Cast iron....will it be updated with Cor3 and enhanced?

Thanks for the context. If this is true, it seems as though the 0211FB conflicts with the 0311T, as both would be a players’ hollow bodied iron with a smaller profile. I guess the question is, is there enough difference in price and performance to justify both offerings? Maybe the 0211FB is cast?

Edited December 21, 2020 by Lefty87

[BirdieBob]

48 minutes ago, Lefty87 said:

Thanks for the context. If this is true, it seems as though the 0211FB conflicts with the 0311T, as both would be a players’ hollow bodied iron with a smaller profile. I guess the question is, is there enough difference in price and performance to justify both offerings? Maybe the 0211FB is cast?

 

The 0211 line will be an "Econo" line and not have the impact reactor, milled backs like the 0311 line, etc.

Edited December 21, 2020 by BirdieBob

[PingPoncho]

What about 2021 hybrids and fairway woods?

[ssfranny]

21 hours ago, BirdieBob said:

If these 0211ST irons have a toe screw then they could be the cast 0211 replacement...or not as the cast 0211 iron could continue as a more GI iron with the ST and FB more players irons in the 0211 line.

Difficult to tell from the pics if that screw is there.  If so then they are the new 0211 forged cavity irons...much like the TM P770.

 

On the other hand, it could be built like 0211 cast iron which has no injection port but is a cavity with cor2 inside.

 

Seems odd to use the label ST as the 0311 ST IS a blade iron...milled too.

 

That means then the 0211 FB is likely the blade iron in the line and the one PXG Clark was playing.

 

So, looks like the 0211 cast, 0211 ST and 0211FB.

 

 

 

what my guess was and someone on that IG post eluded to same thing

[ssfranny]

2 hours ago, Lefty87 said:

Thanks for the context. If this is true, it seems as though the 0211FB conflicts with the 0311T, as both would be a players’ hollow bodied iron with a smaller profile. I guess the question is, is there enough difference in price and performance to justify both offerings? Maybe the 0211FB is cast?

from pic the FB is forged and no TPE in it or hollow

[BlkNGld]

On 12/18/2020 at 1:05 PM, ND2005 said:

Ah yes those up and comers like...

 

Gary Player? 

 

Pat Perez? 

 

Zach Johhnson?

 

I don't know what your point is.    Yes, they signed them some time ago, and many of them probably align with their target market at the time.  

 

Having done that and looking to grow it makes sense they might move to get a few younger ones.   Lydia Ko, for example.

 

[snagy2000]

Dear Santa,

 

Is this heading to market soon? 

 

 

[Shakespeare]

8 minutes ago, snagy2000 said:

Dear Santa,

 

Is this heading to market soon? 

 

 

Is that the smaller then 460 tour head?

[snagy2000]

3 minutes ago, Shakespeare said:

Is that the smaller then 460 tour head?

Not sure, it's a Proto not Gen 4 per confirming list...

[Shakespeare]

Just now, snagy2000 said:

Not sure, it's a Proto not Gen 4 per confirming list...

Really nice...hope that is a gen 4 option

[TheMoneyShot]

2 hours ago, Shakespeare said:

Is that the smaller then 460 tour head?

PXG without the screws looks so much better imho.