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I’ve seen some threads of people talking about going 3/8” instead of 1/2” gaps from iron to iron. Has anyone built the other way and gone 5/8 or done something progressive?
 

I’m looking to push the gaps in my irons more to the 15 yard gaps vs the 10 yard gaps I have with half inch. Especially at the top end of my bag. I hit my irons well and don’t struggle to make good contact with my long irons. My long irons have actually always been one of the stronger parts of my bag. 
 

I know the lie angles are going to to change with the lengths, which is fine with me as I’ll address them on an iron by iron basis anyway. 

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Rather than tweaking length increments, you could go to 5* gapping and eliminate your 7 or 6 iron, depending on your set's specs and bounce preference.  I almost did that in my most recent build as I

Ping has been doing this with their G series irons for a few generations now.

Typically the loft gaps are smaller in the long irons and gradually get bigger in the short irons. You might want to consider 4* gaps in the long irons and 5* in short irons. 

Ping has been doing this with their G series irons for a few generations now.

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Rather than tweaking length increments, you could go to 5* gapping and eliminate your 7 or 6 iron, depending on your set's specs and bounce preference.  I almost did that in my most recent build as I was getting a bit bunched up at the longer irons.  Loft has a far greater impact on distance than shaft length -> 80 / 20 ?

 

GW = 50

PW = 45

9 = 40

8 = 35

6 = 30

5 = 25

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32 minutes ago, Nessism said:

Ping has been doing this with their G series irons for a few generations now.

 

That’s great information, thank you. I think this is the route I’m going to go. Going 5/8 through the whole set was making the 4 iron a bit too long for my liking. 

 

20 minutes ago, ARL67 said:

Rather than tweaking length increments, you could go to 5* gapping and eliminate your 7 or 6 iron, depending on your set's specs.  I almost did that in my most recent build as I was getting a bit bunched up at the longer irons.  Loft has a far greater impact on distance than shaft length -> 80 / 20 ?

 

GW = 50

PW = 45

9 = 40

8 = 35

6 = 30

5 = 25


I’m starting the build with a brand new shafts, and figured I’d give the shaft length a try first and then adjust the lofts to fine tune it if I need a bit more. I may end up doing a bit of both. Thanks for the advice. 

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36 minutes ago, ARL67 said:

Rather than tweaking length increments, you could go to 5* gapping and eliminate your 7 or 6 iron, depending on your set's specs.  I almost did that in my most recent build as I was getting a bit bunched up at the longer irons.  Loft has a far greater impact on distance than shaft length -> 80 / 20 ?

 

GW = 50

PW = 45

9 = 40

8 = 35

6 = 30

5 = 25

This is brilliant!

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After the replies and some additional research I’m going to do the build as follows:


T100S

 

4: 20* (2 strong) at 38 7/8”

5: 25* (standard) at 38 1/4”

6: 30* (2 weak) at 37 5/8”

7: 34* (2 weak) at 37 1/8”
8: 38* (2 weak) at 36 5/8”

9: 42* (2 weak) at 36 1/8”

PW: 46* (2 weak) at 35 3/4”

GW-LW: 50, 55, 60 at 35 3/4”

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5 minutes ago, dan777 said:

Typically the loft gaps are smaller in the long irons and gradually get bigger in the short irons. You might want to consider 4* gaps in the long irons and 5* in short irons. 


That’s what I’m trying to eliminate. Trying to spread the gaps a bit further at the top end of the bag  

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On 11/30/2020 at 4:50 PM, MPAndreassi said:

Has anyone built the other way and gone 5/8 or done something progressive?

Not a change in shaft length, but a stretch in loft increments. This was possible when the new wave Hogan irons hit the market circa 2015. Iron lofts were offered in 1-degree increments from 20* up to 46* (or so), at which time the wedges took over. You picked lofts, not numbered irons.

 

On the heels of the blade-like Ft. Worth 15 irons, Hogan followed with the cavity-back PTx irons.

 

At the 2016 PGA  Mechandise Show, I got some quality time with the Hogan crew on Wednesday, the day after the big 8-hour demo day when eight or nine major OEMs showed their stuff. (2016 PGA was a one-time shot... I helped a golf blog in coverage)

 

The PTx flew fairly well, and I entertained the idea of ordering 22*, 27*, 32*, 36*, 40*, 44*, and then into wedges. The idea was to stretch the distance at the long-end of the bag with 5* increments (3.5i, strong 5i), then from 6i on up at 4* increments as you approach the scoring clubs.

 

Problem: I also had a cosmic experience with the Ping G irons (could get backspin out of 3-inch deep rough).

 

End result: I didn't buy either iron set.

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From my experience changing shaft length can have a large effect on carry distance, it's just that it's much easier to alter the lofts to get the distances to change.

I do MOI matching and my baseline club for length is my 6-iron.  I play at +1/2" with my 6-iron (38").  I then go +/- 3/8" with the 4, 5, 7 and 8-irons.  If I were to continue the 3/8" increments the 9-iron and P-Wedge are way too long.  In fact, I can't get those irons to meet my optimal club MOI (2,725).  They'll be too heavy at that length.  So I go to 1/2" increment between the 8-iron and 9-iron.  Then go back to +3/8" increment with the P-Wedge.

 

Basically you can go with any increments you want to go with.  The golf fitting gestapo is not going to come after you and lock you up.  For me, I use those increments because it does make MOI matching easier, but the irons feel better.  The long irons don't feel too long and the short irons don't feel too short.

 

As far as getting those 15-yard gaps, your best solution if you really want it is to get a clubfitter with a launch monitor and do a gap fitting.

 

 

 

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find a fitter that does gapping sessions, think even PGA SS does them. Then get the lofts changed to what you want.  I bought used pings 3 years ago and really liked them so sent them to Ping with below specs. Back then I was guessing so about to do a gapping session in my full fitting in 2 weeks

 

4 iron 2 degrees strong

5 iron half club strong

6 iron loft

7 iron loft

8 iron half club weak

9 iron half club weak

pw half club weak

uw same but know this needs to be changed

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