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So I recently changed out my Bertha 19 SGI irons for Srixon Z585s.  I did notice my yardages change fairly significantly lower, but I also know my Berthas had much stronger lofts.  Here is my gapping analysis, with lofts and yardages. The Bertha yardages are accurate, and I'm still trying to figure out the Z585s. White cells are accurate, the others I don't know yet. I do not have a gap or sand wedge right now.

 

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So my questions are:

  1. Does the loft difference between the Berthas and the Z585s make that much of a difference?  So my 8 iron at 34* at 160 yards is 10ish yards longer than my 8 iron at 35*?  Maybe the slightly longer length as well? 
  2. Biggest question is do I just get new wedges that are not Srixon. And what do I get?
    1. Loft wise, I am thinking 48* and 54* to match my Bertha composition.  I like the idea of having the 115 yard and 100 yard clubs.  My old Gap and SW were my favorite clubs.  I just don’t know how comparable new wedges would be distance wise. 
    2. I have no idea how to think about grind.  I use my 48* for full and ½ shots.  I use my SW for full shots and then in the bunker.  My LW is sometimes for full shots, but mostly for high loft shots around the green (rarely in the bunker).
    3. Then brand of wedges…no idea.  I thought about the Vokeys and the JAWS, but no idea.  
  3. I’ve thought about adding in the new ZX7 AW, but at 51* I think it’s too far from my PW at 44*.  I’ve typically kept my irons through SW in the same family, but don’t know that’s possible.
  4. I think I’m going to keep my hybrids for now.  I don’t hit them super well, but those distances are roughly right. They are Big Bertha 19 hybrids.

 

 

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Heresy, but what if you just use your old gap and sand wedge ? Based on the number of clus listed it looks like you don't carry any fairway woods.   If you regularly play modest length

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I’d say 48 and 54 makes as much sense as anything else... on the 54, I’d look for a wider sole and mid bounce that’s good for sand shots but also functional elsewhere... just depends what you use around the green...

 

could also drop the 60 and go 48, 52, 56... or drop one of the hybrids as 200 vs 210 is not super helpful... then you can have 5 wedges 🙂

 

 

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Heresy, but what if you just use your old gap and sand wedge ?

Based on the number of clus listed it looks like you don't carry any fairway woods.

 

If you regularly play modest length courses adding another wedge might make sense. That would leave you with only 1 hybrid and no fairway woods. 

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On 12/12/2020 at 9:05 PM, Elee913 said:

So I recently changed out my Bertha 19 SGI irons for Srixon Z585s.  I did notice my yardages change fairly significantly lower, but I also know my Berthas had much stronger lofts.  Here is my gapping analysis, with lofts and yardages. The Bertha yardages are accurate, and I'm still trying to figure out the Z585s. White cells are accurate, the others I don't know yet. I do not have a gap or sand wedge right now.

 

image.png.a4d95160314620cd3c517724e78e7055.png

 

 

So my questions are:

  1. Does the loft difference between the Berthas and the Z585s make that much of a difference?  So my 8 iron at 34* at 160 yards is 10ish yards longer than my 8 iron at 35*?  Maybe the slightly longer length as well? 
  2. Biggest question is do I just get new wedges that are not Srixon. And what do I get?
    1. Loft wise, I am thinking 48* and 54* to match my Bertha composition.  I like the idea of having the 115 yard and 100 yard clubs.  My old Gap and SW were my favorite clubs.  I just don’t know how comparable new wedges would be distance wise. 
    2. I have no idea how to think about grind.  I use my 48* for full and ½ shots.  I use my SW for full shots and then in the bunker.  My LW is sometimes for full shots, but mostly for high loft shots around the green (rarely in the bunker).
    3. Then brand of wedges…no idea.  I thought about the Vokeys and the JAWS, but no idea.  
  3. I’ve thought about adding in the new ZX7 AW, but at 51* I think it’s too far from my PW at 44*.  I’ve typically kept my irons through SW in the same family, but don’t know that’s possible.
  4. I think I’m going to keep my hybrids for now.  I don’t hit them super well, but those distances are roughly right. They are Big Bertha 19 hybrids.

 

 

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Are your distance numbers for the Srixons estimations or launch monitor/course numbers? 1* of loft should not equal 10 yds of distance, maybe 2-4 yds. Your gap between PW-GW is 4* so your distance should equal 10-12 yds between clubs. 

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I had a similar hunt for wedges after the PW  when I bought my 585’s. I ended up going to Cbx’s because my home course has had back to back wet summers and the extra bounce really helped. Be aware that I originally tried using the lofts stamped on the cbx’s and had too much overlap. I ended up going 50, 54,58 in cbx. I originally tried 48&52 but things were bunching up. 

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