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4 hours ago, sfdoddsy said:

How stiff are people finding the Ventus plays to flex.

 

These days I top out at 95, smooth swing, upward AOA.

 

5R, 5S or 6R?

I Play the red ventus 5R in my driver.Swing speed tops out around 98mph and I can really go after it with no hook issues and a nice ball flight.Absolutely love this shaft!

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The average player may not be able to notice a difference between the VeloCore and non-VeloCore models when swinging them, but they should notice a difference in their results. 

Not a clue what my SS is, but I am 70yrs old; it's NOT tour speed, that's for sure.  I currently play to a 4 and have Ventus Velocore 5 Series 59g "S" in TS2 9.5' Driver since it was introduced, and s

I’m also just over 100 mph club speed and can say without a doubt the Ventus Blue 6S Velocore is the best driver shaft I’ve ever played. In my experience, there was a huge difference between the made

On 5/1/2021 at 9:06 PM, sfdoddsy said:

How stiff are people finding the Ventus plays to flex.

 

These days I top out at 95, smooth swing, upward AOA.

 

5R, 5S or 6R?

FWIW, I'm round 95-98 and play the Ventus Blue (Velo) 5S and it's incredible. I've never hit so may fairways (with the Ping G425 Driver).

Driver: Ping G425 Max (10.5) - Ventus (Velocore) Blue 5S
3 Wood: Ping G425 Max (14.5 Degree) - Hzrdus Black 5.5*
5 Wood: Ping G425 Max (17.5 Degree) - CB Alta 65S
4 Hybrid: Ping G425 (22 Degree) - CB Alta 70S

5 Hybrid: Ping G425 (26 Degree) - CB Alta 70S
Irons: Mizuno MP -20 (MMC) 6-PW - KBS $ Taper (120)
Vokey (50 Degree) SM7 F Grind - KBS Tour (120)
Vokey (54 Degree) SM7 F Grind - KBS Tour (120)
Vokey (58 Degree) SM7 S Grind - KBS Tour (120)
Putter: Scotty  - Special Select Newport 2.5

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I’m also just over 100 mph club speed and can say without a doubt the Ventus Blue 6S Velocore is the best driver shaft I’ve ever played. In my experience, there was a huge difference between the made for (non-velocore) version. Recognizing that not all shafts and heads pair the same, I’ve hit my VB in an M5, then Mavrik, and now Epic Speed all with fantastic results. I’ve got a red 5S with Velocore to try at a little longer playing length but it will have to be pretty amazing to kick out the Blue. 

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On 5/3/2021 at 4:52 PM, Tdsjfb said:

FWIW, I'm round 95-98 and play the Ventus Blue (Velo) 5S and it's incredible. I've never hit so may fairways (with the Ping G425 Driver).

I have a g425 max on order with the Tensei orange 55 raw.  I'll give it a solid shot before I start thinking about doing this switch, but probably with the red 5r.  My SS is 92-94.

Ping g425 Max 12/Tensei 55
Ping g410 4h & 5h hybrids

Mizuno 900 Forged 6-Gap/Recoil 95

Ping Glide 3.0 54 & 58 

TP Mills Sycamore/Spaulding TPM VIII/Bellum Winmore 787 Tie-Fighter

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On 5/1/2021 at 9:06 PM, sfdoddsy said:

How stiff are people finding the Ventus plays to flex.

 

These days I top out at 95, smooth swing, upward AOA.

 

5R, 5S or 6R?

I to have a 92-95 driver swing. I borrowed a black 6s velocore from a buddy and he has not got it back yet..It has dropped my spin and i can keep it in the short grass a lot more then my smoke did.

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I just discovered that a fitter here in Sydney (Australia) does a  Try Before You Buy scheme where you pay $30 to use a shaft for a week.

 

So I have now tried out the Red and Blue 5r and the Blue 5S on the range, on a momitor and on course.

 

I normally alternate between a Smoke 5.5 and  Tour VR 5S. I’m naturally low spin with a strong AOA and the usual ball flight is a draw.

 

Driver is normally the strongest part of my game. At 60 I’m not as long as I was, but much straighter. I expect to hit or be just off every fairway at my home course.
 

I love the Ventus in my hybrid and was hoping  to reduce spin a tad and tighten dispersion even more with the driver.

 

The Red and I didn’t get on. The Blue R and I did, except I drew it a tad more than I’d like. The 5S was straighter, but I had the occasional leak right, which I hate.

 

I suspect the 6r would be the Goldilocks flex.

 

Spin, launch and distance were great.

 

Dispersion was a smidge better than my current shafts.

 

Overall not quite enough of an improvement to justify the cost herein Australia.

 

I will, however, keep my eyes peeled for a reasonably priced used Blue 6R.

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On 4/10/2021 at 10:50 AM, jubess said:

Played my first round with the Ventus Red 5R2 in my Ping G425 Max head. Very pleased with the results. The trajectory on my drives were definitely lower and more penetrating resulting in more run out. According to my Garmin g62 I gained about 10 yards on my drives due to more roll out. The shaft is very easy to swing and doesn't feel boardy at all. I was worried due to the low torque rating but I was able to hit nice draws with it. The Max head is 10.5 and I had the weight in the draw setting.

Similar swing speed.... I’m playing a Ventus Red R in a Tour Edge C721 and found similar results, more boring penetrating ball flight plus about 15-20 yds of rollout. 

  • Driver - Ping G400 10.5 Alta 55 S 
  • Woods - Callaway Epic 15*(17*)Hzurdus 6.0 /  Callaway Epic 18* (20*) Hzurdus 5.5
  • Hybrids - Titliest 818 H1 23*(24*)Tensei Red R 
  • Irons - Callaway Rogue Pro 5-PW UST Recoil ES 460 F3
  • Wedges - Ping Glide 2.0 50* AWT /  Callaway PM Grind 54* KBS HiSpin 115
  • Putter - Odyssey O-Works 7 34.5” ... Golf Pride SNSR Contour Pro
  • Ball - Titliest ProV1x left dash
  • Grips -  Golf Pride Tour Velvet 58R 
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On 5/12/2021 at 6:25 PM, sfdoddsy said:

I just discovered that a fitter here in Sydney (Australia) does a  Try Before You Buy scheme where you pay $30 to use a shaft for a week.

 

So I have now tried out the Red and Blue 5r and the Blue 5S on the range, on a momitor and on course.

 

I normally alternate between a Smoke 5.5 and  Tour VR 5S. I’m naturally low spin with a strong AOA and the usual ball flight is a draw.

 

Driver is normally the strongest part of my game. At 60 I’m not as long as I was, but much straighter. I expect to hit or be just off every fairway at my home course.
 

I love the Ventus in my hybrid and was hoping  to reduce spin a tad and tighten dispersion even more with the driver.

 

The Red and I didn’t get on. The Blue R and I did, except I drew it a tad more than I’d like. The 5S was straighter, but I had the occasional leak right, which I hate.

 

I suspect the 6r would be the Goldilocks flex.

 

Spin, launch and distance were great.

 

Dispersion was a smidge better than my current shafts.

 

Overall not quite enough of an improvement to justify the cost herein Australia.

 

I will, however, keep my eyes peeled for a reasonably priced used Blue 6R.

As a fellow Sydneysider - could I ask who is the fitter doing this? Would love this option. 

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I have not tried any of the real deal velocore versions. I tried the TM Blue in drivers and fairways. Didn't like it in the fairways. Wanted a touch more height. Didn't really notice a difference in numbers in the driver from the Kuro Kage, Diamana, or Ventus. Ultimately opted for Kuro Kage on feel 

 

I'm now playing a Tour Edge Red 6S in a 13.5 C721. Little more height and a softer feel than the TM Blue version I test in Sim Max and Sim 2 Max fairways.

 

From everything I've seen the Velocore versions with the premium materials should offer more efficient energy transfer on less than ideal strikes. The "high moi shaft" idea but the made for versions for different OEMs are definitely solid stock shafts

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Further to my post above about 5R vs 5S vs 6R vs Red/Blue.

 

I found a used Blue 6R on the Classifieds here a couple of weeks back and have now had a few rounds and a LM session with it.

 

For me, the various 5s were pretty similar to each other and to other similar weight shafts I’ve tried such as the AD VR.

 

The 6 feels very different. Same shot shape (draw) with slightly tighter dispersion. But notably lower launch and spin.

 

The lighter shafts worked best with my smooth fairway finder swing (130ish ball speed).

 

The 6 has been inconsistent with the smooth 3/4 swings. But the harder I try to hit it the better it responds.

 

I should note that this is all relative since I have a smooth tempo at the best of times and these days my fastest ball speed barely nudges 140.

 

But to get the launch and shape I’m after I do feel like I have the give the 6 a clout. I haven’t decided whether this is good or bad. It is certainly fun swinging hard and seeing the ball go dead straight.

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On 6/16/2021 at 4:24 AM, sfdoddsy said:

Further to my post above about 5R vs 5S vs 6R vs Red/Blue.

 

I found a used Blue 6R on the Classifieds here a couple of weeks back and have now had a few rounds and a LM session with it.

 

For me, the various 5s were pretty similar to each other and to other similar weight shafts I’ve tried such as the AD VR.

 

The 6 feels very different. Same shot shape (draw) with slightly tighter dispersion. But notably lower launch and spin.

 

The lighter shafts worked best with my smooth fairway finder swing (130ish ball speed).

 

The 6 has been inconsistent with the smooth 3/4 swings. But the harder I try to hit it the better it responds.

 

I should note that this is all relative since I have a smooth tempo at the best of times and these days my fastest ball speed barely nudges 140.

 

But to get the launch and shape I’m after I do feel like I have the give the 6 a clout. I haven’t decided whether this is good or bad. It is certainly fun swinging hard and seeing the ball go dead straight.

So if you had to pick one of them to play a big-money tournament tomorrow, which shaft would you have in there?

Ping g425 Max 12/Tensei 55
Ping g410 4h & 5h hybrids

Mizuno 900 Forged 6-Gap/Recoil 95

Ping Glide 3.0 54 & 58 

TP Mills Sycamore/Spaulding TPM VIII/Bellum Winmore 787 Tie-Fighter

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4 hours ago, sfdoddsy said:

If it were tomorrow, I'd probably go with the 5S.

 

I think there is more potential in the 6R, but it is taking some getting used to.

I struggled over the 6R vs. 5S (Blue) and decided that I didn't want a 65 gram driver shaft. So I went with the 5S and it's been unreal.

Driver: Ping G425 Max (10.5) - Ventus (Velocore) Blue 5S
3 Wood: Ping G425 Max (14.5 Degree) - Hzrdus Black 5.5*
5 Wood: Ping G425 Max (17.5 Degree) - CB Alta 65S
4 Hybrid: Ping G425 (22 Degree) - CB Alta 70S

5 Hybrid: Ping G425 (26 Degree) - CB Alta 70S
Irons: Mizuno MP -20 (MMC) 6-PW - KBS $ Taper (120)
Vokey (50 Degree) SM7 F Grind - KBS Tour (120)
Vokey (54 Degree) SM7 F Grind - KBS Tour (120)
Vokey (58 Degree) SM7 S Grind - KBS Tour (120)
Putter: Scotty  - Special Select Newport 2.5

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I tried a Ventus Blue 5S driver shaft in a Taylormade 300 Mini 11.5 degree driver today.  I have a Graphite Design Tour AD DI 6S shaft in my Taylormade M3 440cc driver and really have come to love that shaft.  The 300 Mini with Ventus Blue 5S was really easy to swing and performance and shot dispersion was excellent.  I even put the Tour AD DI shaft in the 300 Mini and it was a bit harsh compared to the Ventus Blue 5S.  I just might be a convert now.  

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Driver:  TaylorMade M3 9.0°, Graphite Design Tour AD DI 6S

3W:  TaylorMade M4 15°, Graphite Design Tour AD DI 7S

Hybrid:  TaylorMade Sim2 2 Iron Hybrid 17°, Mitsubishi Tensai AV Raw Blue 80 stiff

Irons:  Ben Hogan Icon 4-PW, Nippon Modus3 Tour 120 stiff

GW:  Ben Hogan 1999 Apex blade E (PW) bent to 50°, Nippon Modus3 Tour 120 stiff

SW & LW:  Scratch Golf 1018 forged 56° (bent to 54°) / 58°, Nippon Modus3 Tour 120 stiff

Putter: Byron Morgan custom Epic Day

Ball: Taylormade Tour Preferred (2016 ball)

Bag: Sun Mountain 2.5 stand bag

 

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6 hours ago, RobotDoctor said:

I tried a Ventus Blue 5S driver shaft in a Taylormade 300 Mini 11.5 degree driver today.  I have a Graphite Design Tour AD DI 6S shaft in my Taylormade M3 440cc driver and really have come to love that shaft.  The 300 Mini with Ventus Blue 5S was really easy to swing and performance and shot dispersion was excellent.  I even put the Tour AD DI shaft in the 300 Mini and it was a bit harsh compared to the Ventus Blue 5S.  I just might be a convert now.  

Love the 5S. Set it and forget it. Never in playing years has the dispersion been so tight.

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Driver: Ping G425 Max (10.5) - Ventus (Velocore) Blue 5S
3 Wood: Ping G425 Max (14.5 Degree) - Hzrdus Black 5.5*
5 Wood: Ping G425 Max (17.5 Degree) - CB Alta 65S
4 Hybrid: Ping G425 (22 Degree) - CB Alta 70S

5 Hybrid: Ping G425 (26 Degree) - CB Alta 70S
Irons: Mizuno MP -20 (MMC) 6-PW - KBS $ Taper (120)
Vokey (50 Degree) SM7 F Grind - KBS Tour (120)
Vokey (54 Degree) SM7 F Grind - KBS Tour (120)
Vokey (58 Degree) SM7 S Grind - KBS Tour (120)
Putter: Scotty  - Special Select Newport 2.5

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I have recently become a believer in Ventus velacore, as I put it up against 4 other shafts in my g425 hybrid, and I must say it is BY FAR the best feeling, most consistent, most predictable shaft I have ever used in any hybrid, and I'm a shaftoid lol, I have played many shafts.  I love it so much in my hybrid I want to pick one up for my 3 wood and driver to see what else Velacore Can do for me.

 

I'm Most interested in 3 wood shaft, since nothing so far has been able to kick my rogue 125msi driver shaft from the bag, including a couple of high end Oban shafts.

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